It was only a matter of time, folks. As soon as Audi finalized its purchase of the Ducati brand, we knew to expect a slew of comparison tests pitting the German automaker's finest wares against the two-wheeled exotica rolling out of Italy's best-known motorcycle maker.

The scribes from Germany's Auto Bild have indeed taken up the challenge. But what machinery to choose? Naturally, the mind first turns to the R8 supercar and its Lamborghini-derived V10 engine, but, in reality, Audi officials have conceded to us that its 360-horsepower TT RS is actually quicker around most race tracks. So, the all-wheel-drive TT RS Plus it is.

Holding the mantle for Ducati is none other than the 1199 Panigale – an easy choice, as this is the marque's premier superbike for 2012. Sure, there was a replica MotoGP machine a few years back called the Desmosedici RR, but that bike is sold out and the Panigale is likely faster in the hands of all but the most talented riders anyway.

So, who wins? You'll have to scroll down and watch the video to find out, but suffice it to say that it wasn't even close.


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      breakfastburrito
      • 2 Years Ago
      gotta get to F1 levels of downforce and lightweight, to have cars regularly beat out bikes around a track. I've seen a 263whp miata beat an R8's time around Thunderhill. Any good track requires momentum and smoothness, over sheer horsepower. The faster cars usually look much slower, as they're not sliding around - just keeping the line.
        antacid
        • 2 Years Ago
        @breakfastburrito
        An F1 is ridiculously overkill, those things would end up lapping a bike on the track. The TT was only 10 seconds behind the bike, an F1 car on Top Gear was over 30 seconds faster in the wet than a TT in the dry. A regular supercar gives bikes enough of a challenge as it is, put racing tires on them and they'll be winning a lot, no need to go up to pro car levels.
          tachyon particle
          • 2 Years Ago
          @antacid
          Comparing an F1 to a stock bike is ridiculous but doing apples to apples, on the Malaysian Gran Prix back in 04, the fastest F1 was about 29 seconds faster, a 4:3 lap advantage A stock bike vs a stock car will go to the bike until you start hitting street legal track prepped cars like a Viper ACR, etc.
      judgesmails
      • 2 Years Ago
      I love the TT RS. Yeah, it probably drives a little funky at the limit, but you can get used to that... The engine is super bad, and it looks like nothing else - vive la difference I say.
      Erik
      • 2 Years Ago
      The 1199 looks better every time I see it. Give Bologna a year to work out the bugs, and I might have to get me one those bad boys next year Oh, and this was pretty lame. Does more to emphasize just how boring Audis look, sound and drive, than highlight the power and performance of the Ducati.
        jase.s
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Erik
        The 1199 looks like most other superbikes, even with that single-sided swingarm. Big broad plastics... aren't that attractive.
      kawanut
      • 2 Years Ago
      What you guys don't discuss is the contact patch difference. The TTRS has probably 10-20x the contact patch straight up and down, and 15-30x going around a corner compared to any bike. The Panigale makes a lot of power, and is very lightweight also, but there are plenty of more powerful bikes, and lighter bikes (stock from the factory). Overall, it's a good compromise of power and weight for a bike. A bike is always going to win an acceleration contest. Where it will have trouble is braking (contact patch and swept area) and turning (weight transfer and contact patch) compared to a car. Finally, the more important thing... a decent driver can make a TTRS go around that track at those speeds (let's say), but it probably takes a damn good rider to run the speeds the bike was running (a good rider with experience at that track, that bike, those tires, etc). If you take the average street bike rider and average TTRS owner, in most cases the TTRS will probably be faster...
      AcidTonic
      • 2 Years Ago
      Good to see more AWD rep. One of these days we'll convince an American company to dabble with this formula. As soon as they stop hating on it so much. I would *love* to buy a similar car from an American company but it just doesn't exist. I don't need all the luxury, just give me the lightweight awd performance vehicle at half the price with an available manual transmission. All we really have is Ford showing off their Taurus SHO as if it's a real track vehicle, using the scandinavian flick to pretend like the rear wheels were causing oversteer. We all know it's a FWD based AWD setup that is only reactive and not proactive like a full-time AWD system. No manual trans. And now it has a track package, all 4300lbs of it..... Is this market really that difficult to understand? Lightweight car with AWD + manual trans + turbocharged engine. We're still waiting for a real choice....
        SpikedLemon
        • 2 Years Ago
        @AcidTonic
        I'm just happy that the Ford Focus gives the VW Golf a run for it's money. The RS would be icing.
        AcidTonic
        • 2 Years Ago
        @AcidTonic
        I understand you guys immediately started pointing out how the TT has a mostly FWD split as well..... Normally I would complain as with the SHO above but this car is actually competitive with an Evo/STI both of which are much closer to a 50/50 distribution (I know the STI is variable, just saying it's nowhere near 80%+ front). Personally I'm sticking with the Evo IX as my premier choice of high performance AWD. But even then I'd dying to see another competitor. I work on the car myself and prefer I4 to Boxer. Otherwise the next WRX divorcing the Imprezza is looking appealing on a lighter platform. But I want an I4 dammit! I have no other interest in Mitsubishi other than the Evo and I want to root for a Domestic but I find myself hating all their vehicles. They had a chance with the Focus RS but have already announced it with be FWD *if* they build one.
        VTECyo
        • 2 Years Ago
        @AcidTonic
        The TT is a FWD-based AWD car. This means it's chassis is the same as a FWD car so it has a transversely mounted motor and all the understeer that is associated with this setup. As for power distribution, the differential is able to send 100% of power to the rear wheel but it defaults to 97.5% fron and 2.5% rear. As for light weight the TT RS curb weight is 3320 which is quite heavy for a car with such a short wheelbase. AWD is a difficult game to play. Either you have expensive cars with proper chassis' like the GT-R or Porsche Turbo (if you consider it proper) or you have cheap FWD-based cars. In this case what you have is a cheap FWD platform with very nice trim.
          Georg
          • 2 Years Ago
          @VTECyo
          thats wrong the TT-RS use latest Haldex generation AWD and has a rear biased basic setup of 40-60% front back and can shift around power from 0-100 to 100-0% 98-2% basic setup was Haldexgeneration 1 at the very first TT quattro 1.8T with 225hp... the TT-RS does not tend to understeer, thanks to the rear biased power transfer it is mostly neutral.. the weight balance isnt that bad either with 58/42 thats similar to WRX STI or Evo X
          cmunic8r99
          • 2 Years Ago
          @VTECyo
          Actually, the Quattro in the TT and A3 sends 85% of the power to the front by default, but you make a good point.
      polishlanman
      • 2 Years Ago
      Would love to see this in HD
      Julle85
      • 2 Years Ago
      Audi TT-RS Plus is fast. Here is test, how fast TT-RS Plus roadster is. http://s1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg566/DeDeGCF/AutoBild%20Sportscars%20-%20Scans%202012/ABSC052012%20-%20Short%20tests/?action=view¤t=absc052012.jpg So, this a new TT-RS Plus coupe hits 0-100km/h 3.6-3-8 secons.
      IOMTT
      • 2 Years Ago
      Stop tempting me with the Panigale. I am curious to see how much more is in that new mill. Expect an 1199 R soon. From all I have read, the 1199 is an easier bike to control than older Ducs. I would love to find out from the saddle.
      Paul Turton
      • 2 Years Ago
      10 seconds? was they expecting it to be closer, even the likes of the r8 and audis cousins the lmabos wouldnt keep up with the panigale
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