There's little question that the new Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG is one seriously capable performance sedan. But as impressive as it is, at the level it competes, there are other options to consider. The Audi S8, BMW Alpina B7, Jaguar XJR and Maserati Quattroporte all offer similar levels of performance and power. The S65 on the other hand, with its plutocratic V12 engine, is on a different level entirely. And Mercedes has just revealed the new model.

As with the outgoing version, the new Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG is propelled by a 6.0-liter twin-turbo V12 packing a massive 621 horsepower and a positively biblical 738 pound-feet of torque. But this time, AMG has paired it to the new seven-speed automatic transmission instead of the outdated five-speed unit in the outgoing model. Performance is quoted at the same 4.2 seconds for the 0-60 run and a top speed electronically limited to 155 miles per hour. There's no telling how fast it would gobble up miles of Autobahn if the limiter were removed, but the speedometer goes all the way up to 220 mph. That acceleration run, however, is actually slower than the quoted time for the less-powerful S63, which could come down to traction as much as weight: though the new S63 packs 4Matic all-wheel drive, the S65 spec sheet makes no mention of driving more than the rear wheels.

On this level, the top Benz really competes only with the Bentley Flying Spur, which also packs a 6.0-liter twin-turbocharged twelve-cylinder engine – albeit in a different configuration and with slightly less power and much less torque. Or the Rolls-Royce Ghost, for that matter, whose twin-turbo V12 may be larger, but produces less muscle. But neither the Bentley nor the Rolls are tuned for performance like the new S65 is.

The new top Benz really competes only with the Bentley Flying Spur or Rolls-Royce Ghost ... neither are tuned for performance like the new S65 is.

Of course the S65 also benefits from all the advancements made for the latest S-Class, which is widely regarded as one of the finest, most technologically advanced automobiles on the market. The top-spec model further upgrades with an AMG-tuned suspension with Magic Body Control and Road Surface Scan, adaptive steering, the same lightweight lithium-ion battery as the new S63, a carbon and aluminum engine cover, 20-inch forged alloys and optional ceramic brakes to keep it all in check. The S65 also introduces a new head-up display and touchpad – both of which will find their way into other Mercedes models – in a cabin upholstered in diamond-quilted nappa leather and with an IWC Schaffhausen clock embedded in the dashboard.

If you're into the finer things, there's more to digest in the press release below, and of course you can check out all the angles in the high-resolution image gallery above. The new S65 will debut at the upcoming LA Auto Show and Tokyo Motor Show, and while pricing has yet to be announced, we know that deliveries are set to commence in the US during the second quarter of 2014.
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The new Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG
Driving performance in its perfect form

Affalterbach – Twelve cylinders, twin-turbocharging, 621 hp (463 kW) of output and 738 lb-ft of torque – the new S65 AMG sets new standards as the most powerful vehicle in its segment. Exceptional performance and outstanding dynamics – these are the hallmarks of the AMG 6.0-liter V12 biturbo engine. The AMG sports suspension based on MAGIC BODY CONTROL comes standard with ROAD SURFACE SCAN, the world's first suspension with eyes. It goes without saying that the S65 AMG offers supreme exclusivity in design and equipment specification. Two innovations -- the head-up display and the touchpad -- represent further enhancements in terms of comfort and safety.

The S65 AMG is the only high-performance 12-cylinder automobile from a German premium manufacturer – and it's a car with a pedigree: the first generation of the S65 AMG (V 220) was launched in 2003 (2005 in the U.S.), with the second generation (V 221) being produced from 2006 until 2013.

Tobias Moers, Chairman of the Board of Management of Mercedes-AMG GmbH:
"Soon after the successful launch of the S63 AMG, we are unveiling the new S65 AMG. Supreme exclusivity and incomparable dynamism provide the guarantee of a high fascination potential. With the third generation of the S65 AMG, we offer our loyal and discerning V12 customers a unique high-performance automobile."

Key data at a glance:
S65 AMG
Displacement 6.0-liter
Output 621 hp (463 kW) at 4800-5400 rpm
Horsepower 621 hp
Max. torque 738 lb-ft
at 2300-4300 rpm
Acceleration 0-60 mph 4.2 s (est.)
Top speed 155 mph*
* Electronically limited

The AMG 6.0-liter V12 biturbo engine delivers 621 hp (463 kW) with a maximum torque of 738 lb-ft – figures that enable the S65 AMG to outperform all other vehicles in its segment. This superiority is highlighted by the car's performance: the S65 AMG accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in 4.2 seconds, with a
top speed of 155 mph (electronically limited). The strengths of the 12-cylinder biturbo engine from Mercedes-AMG include its effortless acceleration in all speed ranges as well as its refined operation with the distinctive V12 sound typical of AMG. In short: the S65 AMG impresses with its superior and stylish performance.

Technical highlights of the AMG 6.0-liter V12 biturbo engine:
• Biturbocharging
• Aluminium crankcase
• Forged crankshaft of high-grade alloy steel
• Multi-spark ignition with 12 twin-spark ignition units
• Air-to-water intercooler with low-temperature circuit
• Alternator management
• ECO start/stop function

Exclusive carbon fiber engine cover with AMG engine badge

Opening the hood reveals the exclusive carbon fiber/aluminium engine cover, which is a further sign of the exceptional status of the AMG 6.0-liter V12 biturbo engine. Two AMG logos on left and right together with a centrally positioned Mercedes star create a lasting impression. The 12-cylinder engine is assembled by hand at AMG's engine production facility in compliance with the most rigorous quality standards according to the philosophy "one man, one engine". Apart from serving as an AMG hallmark confirming superlative precision and production quality, the AMG engine badge bearing the engine technician's signature underneath the Mercedes star offers unmistakable proof of the peerless DNA of Mercedes-Benz's high-performance brand.

AMG SPEEDSHIFT PLUS 7G-TRONIC

As before in the SL65 AMG high-performance roadster, AMG combines the 6.0- liter V12 biturbo engine with the AMG SPEEDSHIFT PLUS 7G-TRONIC. Unlike in the direct predecessor of the S65 AMG, which featured an AMG SPEEDSHIFT five-speed automatic transmission, the seven-speed automatic transmission with its wide ratio spread guarantees a noticeably lower engine speed level. This makes a key contribution to reducing the vehicle's fuel consumption. The efficiency of the power train is further significantly improved by reduced-friction bearings and transmission oil heat management. The AMG SPEEDSHIFT PLUS 7G-TRONIC has three individual driving programs, which can be selected at the press of a button in the center console: Controlled Efficiency (C), Sport (S) and Manual (M). In modes S and M the emphasis is on sportiness: maximum emotive appeal combined with truly perceivable dynamics is ensured by the brief, precisely defined cutback of ignition and injection during upshifts under full load; this shortens the shift times and lends an audibly more emotive tone to gearshifts. The ECO start/stop function is always activated in transmission mode "C".

Lithium-ion battery reduces weight by over 44 pounds

Like the S63 AMG, the S65 AMG features a lithium-ion battery. This innovative technology offers numerous advantages over a conventional battery concept: with a capacity of 78 Ah, the lithium-ion battery replaces both the starter battery and the backup battery – resulting in a weight saving of over 44 pounds. The high-performance battery is unaffected by cold temperatures and has compact dimensions. S63 AMG and S65 AMG are the world's first volume-produced vehicles with such a battery system.

AMG sports suspension with MAGIC BODY CONTROL

The S65 AMG features as standard the AMG sports suspension based on MAGIC BODY CONTROL. The new S-Class is the first car in the world able to recognize road surface undulations in advance. If ROAD SURFACE SCAN detects such undulations with the help of the stereo camera, MAGIC BODY CONTROL adjusts the suspension in advance to suit the situation. The "Comfort" and "Sport" modes are available for a driver-defined suspension setup. While AMG-specific elastokinematics on the 4-link front axle and multilink independent rear suspension make for greater directness when a dynamic driving style is adopted, the AMG sports suspension based on MAGIC BODY CONTROL ensures the legendary Mercedes long-distance comfort. The S65 AMG is equipped as standard with ESP® Dynamic Cornering Assist.
Targeted braking intervention at the inside rear wheel provides torque vectoring resulting in defined cornering of the vehicle and ensuring greater agility when taking corners at high speed. This technology helps to mitigate irritating understeer when turning into corners.

AMG speed-sensitive sports steering with variable steering ratio Electromechanical AMG speed-sensitive sports steering with variable steering ratio is the perfect complement which greatly enhances vehicle handling and agility while maintaining driving safety at high speeds. In "Comfort" suspension mode, the AMG speed-sensitive sports steering enhances comfort by providing more steering assistance. If the "Sport" suspension setting is selected, on the other hand, the driver feels a more sporty stiffer level of steering assistance. The pre-programmed curves for power assistance enhance feedback from the roadway and steering precision.

AMG light-alloy wheels based on systematic lightweight construction

The S65 AMG is available exclusively with AMG forged light-alloy wheels. This design reduces weight while increasing strength. The result is lower unsprung masses, giving advantages in terms of handling and spring/damper element response. In the standard specification, the S65 AMG is fitted with AMG multispoke light-alloy wheels, ceramic, high-gloss polished – front: 8.5 x 20, rear: 9.5 x 20, tyre sizes 255/40 R 20 and 285/35 R 20. The multi-spoke light-alloy wheels can be considered a reinterpretation of the traditional spoked wheels from the 1930s – such as the ones used in the legendary 540 K Mercedes dream car. The exclusive forged wheels on the S65 AMG fascinate through their exceptional design: each of the 16 spokes is twisted, which causes the light-catching contours to radiate to the center of the wheel hub. The effect: the wheel gives the impression of being even bigger. An additional high-grade detail is the screw-in, fully integrated wheel bolt cover of forged metal. Its shape is reminiscent of a center lock as seen in motorsport. The design also allows an unobscured view of the AMG high-performance braking system.

The unmatched visual impact of the AMG forged wheels is due to an elaborate finishing process: initial polishing is followed by manual grinding of the lightalloy wheels. Two polishing stages using different grinding pellets ensure the desired deep sheen. Having been cleaned, the wheel undergoes final treatment, including sealing with clear varnish.

Alternatively, three other AMG forged wheels and 1 cast wheel of the same size are optionally available. The 10-spoke design is available painted in titanium grey and polished or painted in matt black with a high-sheen rim flange – and likewise features a screw-in, fully integrated wheel bolt cover of forged metal. Alternatively, AMG forged wheels in a 5-twin-spoke design painted in titanium grey with a high-sheen finish and a black wheel bolt cover or AMG 5-spoke wheels with grey inserts are available.

AMG ceramic high-performance composite braking system as an option Extremely short stopping distances and rapid deceleration are a given for any AMG high-performance car. And the S65 AMG is no exception as it is equipped with a weight-optimized AMG high-performance composite construction braking system. An AMG ceramic high-performance composite construction braking system is also available as an option. The more than 20 percent lighter design ensures lower unsprung masses as well as enhanced driving dynamics, agility and ride comfort. In addition, the system has a longer service life, is more resistant to corrosion and has higher thermal stability. The AMG ceramic high-performance composite braking system has front brake discs with a diameter of 16.5 inches (420 millimeters) and is recognizable by the "AMG Carbon Ceramic" logo on the specially bronze painted brake callipers.

Design: Sensual clarity is combined with dynamism and exclusivity

The S65 AMG shows off its exceptional status not just with regard to its technology, but also in terms of design. The sensual clarity typical of Mercedes- Benz, with its classic architecture and flowing profile, is combined with expressive elements typical of AMG. Luxurious and stately, powerful and exclusive, dynamic and prestigious – the S65 AMG is a true eye-catcher with a self-assured presence. The large, upright and distinctly three-dimensional V12 radiator grille with its six twin lamellas in high-gloss chrome underlines the car's special status. An exciting contrast to this is provided by the front apron with its three large cooling air intakes. The front section sports the AMG-typical, stylized "A" to emphasise the powerful exclusivity of the S65 AMG.

High-gloss chrome – this design element is used to exclusive effect in the S65 AMG.

An eye-catching appearance, especially in combination with dark paint colours, is guaranteed by the lower bumper grilles and flics (air deflectors) on the side air intakes. The three-dimensional front splitter in high-gloss chrome increases downforce on the front axle, while the gap above the front splitter ensures an effective flow of air to the separate engine oil cooler behind it. Also in high-gloss chrome are the inserts in the side sill panels and the trim of the high-gloss black rear diffuser insert. Customers who attach greater value to an understated look have the option of ordering the grilles and flics in high-gloss black.

Further exclusive design features include the "V12 BITURBO" lettering on the wings and the "S65 AMG" model badge on the boot lid – both in new, modern typography. The AMG sports exhaust system with its two chrome-plated, separate twin tailpipes is a source of fascination both visually and acoustically.

Exciting equipment and appointments together with supreme quality in the interior

Exclusivity and luxury, combined with emphatically sporty design elements – the interior of the S65 AMG fascinates through its exceptional feel, highestgrade materials and exquisite quality. The defining features are the upholstery in exclusive nappa leather with seat upholstery layout in an exclusive diamond-pattern design. The delineated perforations in the leather upholstery of the AMG sports seats are a special highlight: there are intentionally no perforations in the nappa leather wherever there is contrasting topstitching. The result is extraordinarily neat seams and an unrivalled impression of quality. Other features of the Exclusive package include the nappa leather roof liner (exclusive to the twelve cylinder models), leather-lined dashboard, door center panels in a diamond-pattern design, leather-clad roof grab handles, additional wood trim and AMG stainless-steel door sill panels illuminated in white. Customers are able to choose between black, silk beige/espresso brown, nut brown/black, porcelain/black and crystal grey/seashell grey.

Exclusively developed AMG sports seats provide the guarantee of optimal long-distance comfort. Electric adjustment, memory function, seat heating and active ventilation are standard features. As an additional bonus, newly contoured seat cushions and backrests improve lateral support when cornering at speed. High-quality AMG badges on all four seat backrests are part of the standard specification, while embossed AMG emblems can be found on the front and – in the case of individual rear seats – also on the rear center console. Further AMG emblems are included on the trim of the seat backs.

The 2-spoke AMG sports steering wheel allows perfect vehicle control. The distinctly contoured steering wheel rim is covered with nappa leather, with perforated leather in the grip area. The insert is provided with characteristic AMG lettering. Aluminium shift paddles allow manual gear selection. To the right of the AMG sports steering wheel between the air vents is a high-quality analogue clock in an exclusive IWC design: this features three-dimensional, milled metal hands and genuine metal appliqués on the dial. High-grade chrome-plated door pins with AMG logo round off the exquisite S65 AMG interior.

AMG instrument cluster with animated round dials

The AMG instrument cluster with two animated round dials appears on the high-resolution TFT colour display. In addition to the AMG-specific lettering and the needles in red/silver, the typical AMG look includes the AMG logo in the speedometer with 220 mph scale (left) and the "V12 BITURBO" lettering in the rev counter (right). An animated AMG start-up display is shown on the right-hand display. The AMG main menu has a digital speedometer and a permanent gear display in the upper section. In transmission mode "M", the driver is also prompted to perform an upshift shortly before the rpm limit is reached. Two additional round dials provide information on the engine oil and transmission oil temperatures when the driver selects "Warm up" from the AMG menu. "Set Up" displays the transmission and suspension mode as well as the activated ESP® mode. Visual feedback is by means of an animated S65 AMG on the TFT display between speedometer and rev counter.

Head-up display for enhanced comfort and safety

Two new innovations make their debut in the S65 AMG: the head-up display and the touchpad. The head-up display projects important information such as vehicle speed navigation information and information from DISTRONIC PLUS onto the windscreen. The virtual colour display of size 8'' x 3'' appears to float on the hood at a distance of about two metres from the driver. This means that the head-up display is perfectly positioned in the driver's field of view. He or she is able to take in relevant information without having to look away from what is happening on the road ahead. In addition, the display shows the digital speed, engine speed and currently selected gear. In manual transmission mode, a colored upshift bar and the possible gears for a manual gear change are projected onto the windscreen. The brightness of the high-contrast display is automatically adjusted to suit the ambient brightness. The driver can also adjust the brightness to his or her preference. The position of the head-up display on the windscreen is height-adjustable and can be saved using the memory function.

Innovative touchpad for significantly easier operation

The new, innovative Mercedes-Benz touchpad makes it significantly easier to operate radio, telephone and navigation system. Unlike in conventional systems, the touchpad makes it possible to operate all infotainment functions.

The input area is approximately 2.6'' x 1.8'' in size and is integrated into the handrest with a cover for the keypad. The touchpad can be controlled in the same way as a smartphone or tablet PC: it can recognize one- and two-finger gestures, swipe gestures and zoom gestures through intuitive widening and narrowing of the fingers. It is also possible to enter letters, numbers and special characters using handwriting. Every language available in COMAND is possible. The touchpad is designed with high-quality surfaces in high-gloss black and silver shadow.

The control surface of the new touchpad is integrated in the handrest of the central control unit, allowing safe and comfortable input. Behind the touch surface are three touch-sensitive keys which can be used to control important functions quickly and directly: back function, favorites menu, audio quick menu. The user receives clear haptic feedback when operating the touchpad control surface and the keys. Another highlight is the new hand resting recognition feature: a three-dimensional sensor signal is evaluated in order to detect whether the driver's hand is simply resting on the handrest or whether the driver is actually making an input with one or two fingers. This prevents incorrect inputs and improves the safety of operation. The driver can choose at any time which input method they prefer. As an alternative to the touchpad, the driver can also use the COMAND controller and Voice Control for the control of radio, telephone and navigation system.

The S65 AMG is equipped as standard with head-up display and touchpad. Both innovations will soon be available also in other Mercedes models.

Also included in the standard equipment package of the S65 AMG (selection):
• AIR-BALANCE package
• AMG full-pile footmats, with edging in nappa leather and AMG badge in solid metal
• AMG sports pedals of brushed stainless steel with rubber studs
• Ambient lighting
• ATTENTION ASSIST
• Bluetooth®
• Burmester® high-end 3D surround sound system with 24 speakers
• Exclusive Nappa Leather Upholstery
• COMAND
• Driver Assistance package
• Drive-Dynamic Seats with Massage including Hot Stone Massage Programs
• Four Zone Climate Control
• KEYLESS-GO with Hands Free Access
• Exclusive trim package
• LED Intelligent Light System
• MAGIC VISION CONTROL
• Media Interface
• Metallic paint
• Night View Assist PLUS
• Panoramic sliding sunroof
• Premium 1 package
• PRE-SAFE® PLUS
• Tire pressure monitoring system
• Rear Seat package
• Executive Rear Seat Package
• Rear Seat Entertainment system
• Sun Protection package
• Surround View Camera package
• Warmth and Comfort package

Numerous personalisation options from the AMG Performance Studio are available ex-factory:
• AMG Exterior Carbon fiber package
• AMG ceramic high-performance composite braking system
• AMG performance steering wheel in nappa leather/DINAMICA, black
• AMG trim in carbon fiber/black piano lacquer
• Brake callipers, painted red

Additional optional extras (selection):
• designo appointments packages
• Executive Rear Seat package PLUS including folding tables in the rear
• SPLITVIEW
• Wood/Nappa Leather steering wheel

Intelligent Drive: new standards in safety

The S65 AMG also sets new standards in terms of active and passive safety: what began with PRE-SAFE® ten years ago and continued with DISTRONIC PLUS is now leading to a new dimension in driving. Comfort and safety have merged into one. Mercedes-Benz calls this "Intelligent Drive". New systems make the new S-Class even more comfortable and safer:
• Rear PRE-SAFE® package
• Night View Assist Plus

World premiere in November, market launch in 2014

Like the previous model, the new S65 AMG is available exclusively with a long wheelbase. The AMG V12 sedan will celebrate its double world premiere simultaneously at the Los Angeles International Auto Show on November 20, 2013, and at the Tokyo Motor Show on December 1, 2013. The vehicle will go on-sale in the U.S. in the second quarter of 2014. Pricing will be announced closer to the launch.

About Mercedes-Benz USA

Mercedes-Benz USA (MBUSA), headquartered in Montvale, New Jersey, is responsible for the distribution, marketing and customer service for all Mercedes-Benz products in the United States. MBUSA offers drivers the most diverse line-up in the luxury segment with 13 model lines ranging from the sporty CLA-Class four-door coupe to the flagship S-Class and the SLS AMG GT. MBUSA is also responsible for the distribution, marketing and customer service of Mercedes-Benz Sprinter Vans, and smart products in the U.S. More information on MBUSA and its products can be found at www.mbusa.com, www.mbsprinterusa.com and www.smartusa.com.


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      Lachmund
      • 1 Year Ago
      isn't there another choice for the steering wheel?
      Zaki
      • 1 Year Ago
      Awesome machine...cars like this don't need rationale but just desire to purchase.
      MechE
      • 1 Year Ago
      Sometimes more gears makes a car slower.
        imag
        • 1 Year Ago
        @MechE
        The issue is that the car is traction limited. The V12s have been traction limited up past 70 mph for years. Stomp on it on the freeway with the TC off and they spin tires. I like fast cars, but I have to admit that this is pretty pointless. All that power just means spending a lot of time looking at the TC light.
        SloopJohnB
        • 1 Year Ago
        @MechE
        True dat. My 65 Imp with a 350/370 hp LT1 crate motor and a power glide xmsn only needed two gears. 3.08 rear and 8K in first good to 90 and second good to 150 at 6300. Of course the pglide died in 4k miles and the car wasn't particularly quick...but no time wasted in shifting, either! 4 speed overdrive auto improved things considerably as did 3.73 rear axle. Looked better than the merc too...
          Lachmund
          • 1 Year Ago
          @SloopJohnB
          what does this have to do with the s 65?!
      Max Fortino
      • 1 Year Ago
      Saw it from real and it looks dull and boring. The sagging rear end is ugliest.
        Lachmund
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Max Fortino
        to each his own i guess. i think it's beautiful. the best looking car in class
      Arch
      • 1 Year Ago
      It is far superior than the Ghost and Flying Spur. No competition there.
        Jai
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Arch
        Yeah, just like a GTR is "better" than an MP4-12C. An S-class starts at around $70k worldwide ($90k for the US) and the Rolls and Bentley start at about $250k+. Not in the same league!
          Feurig
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Jai
          S65 is around $212k. Easy to make it more expensive by adding custom options.
          Arch
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Jai
          Compare the prices of the Ghost and Flying Spur to the S65. Then compare the features and performance. I did not compare it to the Phantom or Mulsanne. You will see my point. Don't just say Bentley and Rolls Royce.
      Miguro Takahashi
      • 1 Year Ago
      Unless your penis is really that small, I can't see any reason to buy an S65 over an S63.
        viper3ez
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Miguro Takahashi
        for people who can afford one, it is more a FCUK YOU choice than a logical one. if owning this beast equals between leg miniaturization then i may just cut mine off. or better yet buy in my wife's name. now stop being so negative and appreciate a good thing
        jamescmathews
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Miguro Takahashi
        Why is it that people always associate driving an expensive car with having a small penis? Think about this for a minute. I'd rather have a small penis and drive this Benz or a Ferrari or Lamborghini and get laid all the time by women that swarm around me than have a large penis driving a Toyota Yaris or Honda Civic and end up going home to spank myself. It's the money you have and the car/house/clothes/stuff you have that gets you all the action... not the penis. So, I'd rather have a small penis and get laid by hot women all the time than have a large penis and get laid by ugly women or more likely by Rosie Palm.
        Jonathan Wayne
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Miguro Takahashi
        Is the guy with the Japanese name really making small penis comments? Really?
          viper3ez
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Jonathan Wayne
          epic! i didnt catch that. before. you sir are a genius. i guess all the toyotas and hondas on the road must mean there are a lot of big people in japan
      SloopJohnB
      • 1 Year Ago
      Yep...super car. Rich get richer and poor aren't making enough babies. Income disparity widens....pitchforks and torches in the near future if not another DOW meltdown bubble. Capital takes up a very disproportionate share of profits relative to labor...a new Gilded Age. Still, glad to see the V12 still here. When you see a V16...time to sell and dig in for the crash....
        Lachmund
        • 1 Year Ago
        @SloopJohnB
        poor aren't making anough babies?! in which world do YOU live?
        Zaki
        • 1 Year Ago
        @SloopJohnB
        Rich get richer...due to their work ethics, despite the Obama Socialists in power. The poor stay poor because they count on Uncle Obama to bail them out, instead of working hard and making the American dream their own, instead of being envious of those who do.
          Zaki
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Zaki
          Was just looking to see the reaction from the closet socialists on the board and boy did I hid pay dirt :)
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        viper3ez
        • 1 Year Ago
        it is a luxobarge and not a race car.
        Eeti
        • 1 Year Ago
        Three words: all wheel drive
          Tyler
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Eeti
          @ John Blaze You're trying to apply logical to an illogical car segment. People who can afford these don't give a crap about how much power is "necessary". Why own a Lambo/Ferrari if you don't take it to the track? Perhaps you should go ask all those people with exotic garage queens to hand over their keys.
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Eeti
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          @Eeti
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        XT6Wagon
        • 1 Year Ago
        Clearly you have never driven one. Lets compare its grandfathers the 2003 S55 and the 2003 S600. Both have the same HP. Same chassis. Same Tires. Why then is the heavier S600 faster? Powerband. The S600 makes full torque at 1,800 rpm. The S55 makes less peak torque and takes longer to get there. This broad powerband means the S600 puts more HP out throughout the powerband. So thats the good of the MB V12 biturbo. Relentless power. The bad? Even the "low" output 03 S600 is traction limited at 100mph. at a mere 60mph Its completely up to the ECU and traction control to limit power to the avalable traction. The S65 has far more torque to deal with and no more tire. So its going to be "slow" at double digit speeds compared to cars with AWD. Expect this generation to show the S63 as the fast model, and the S65 for those desiring a much less sensible and vicious car.
        Tyler
        • 1 Year Ago
        The S65 is RWD. The other acceleration figures will likely be more illuminating for you.
        Feurig
        • 1 Year Ago
        RS7 and S65 are not comparable. If we went by your logic, we should be comparing the S65 to the CLS63-S, which goes 0-60 in 3.6 (some say faster). C'mon man. Use your brain.
      superset5
      • 1 Year Ago
      I just can't get past the steering wheel MB has decided for the S-class. It's horrible.
      telm12345
      • 1 Year Ago
      I dislike this comparison. No other car in this range is tuned this way because of the market The MB is an interesting hybrid luxury/sports sedan, but frankly those who have money for the Rolls aren't driving them, they're being driven in them. When I see the Rolls, and there are a few in Manhattan, there is always a driver in the front. Always. Bentley is also not in contention with MB because Bentley drivers want luxurious driving that cocoons them from the outside world. So you essentially you're in competition with the Rapide, which you still won't match in exclusivity.
      CruzControl
      • 1 Year Ago
      This is exactly why I love MB so much. It's such an aspirational brand. I'm driving a C-Class coupe now, but just to think I can push something as insane as this S65 in the future is exciting.
        imag
        • 1 Year Ago
        @CruzControl
        You *must* be from the marketing department. I mean, seriously. Can anyone actually think like this?
      Hernan
      • 1 Year Ago
      This doesn't make much sense to me. I see the S-Class as a car that's all about elegance. Offering a V12 option sounds fine, but the chromed-out AMG body kit is a bit gaudy.
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