• Apr 29, 2009
Some Toyota Tundra owners are reportedly experiencing inordinately heavy amounts of premature rust, and they want the Japanese automaker to take action to address the problem. WCVB TV in Boston has been investigating the Toyota rust situation for about a year, and they're reporting that at least two dozen 2000-2001 Tundra owners have complained to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). Owners of 1995-2001 Toyota pickups say their vehicles had inadequate corrosion protection, and many feel that the automaker should recall the vehicles.

When we mention excessive rust, we're not talking about some corroded quarter panels or a little dusting around the wheel wells. Drivers have complained of trucks so rusty that the frames are cracking, panels are falling off, and, in some cases, the trucks are too unsafe to drive. One owner is reportedly dealing with a power steering rack in need of repair, but the rust is so bad a new rack can't be bolted to the frame. The Boston TV station also investigated the smaller Tacoma for rust issues last year and found several frames that were disintegrating due to excessive corrosion.

For Toyota's part, the station reports that the automaker is buying back select models at 1.5 times their Blue Book value, but there are other truck owners who are still clamoring for resolution. The Japanese automaker says it is investing every case individually and that it's using lessons learned from the Tacoma incident to proactively investigate vehicles made with similar production techniques. Toyota won't comment on how many rust problem complaints it has received. Hat tip to Chris!

[Source: The Boston Channel]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      Rusting Toyotas, brings back memories of their cars from the 70's. They where will built, but rusted at the mere hint of road salt. My cousin's Celica fell apart due to rust, he pulled the engine and sold it for more than the whole car was worth.
      • 5 Years Ago
      "...the automaker is buying back select models at 1.5 times their Blue Book value..."

      I can't imagine trucks with rusty, cracking frames and panels falling off have high Blue Book Values.
        • 5 Years Ago
        At least Toyota is doing something about it. When this happened to the the 1995-2000 Tacomas, Toyota started the buyback program buying the trucks back for 1.5x their value. Now more recently when the same occured with the 2001 - 2004 Tacomas they started a similar program replacing the frames of the affected vehicles and extending the warranty to 15 years. With the Tundra it's probably very likely they same will occur. My 2002 Tacoma has been great to me and never given me any problems. I would rather buy a car from a company that's willing to back up their products than one that may possibly end up relying on tax payer dollars to up hold up its warrenty.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Anyone.. and I mean ANYONE.. who defends Toyota in this situation... is about as naive as a baby right outta the womb. Toyota quality took a nose dive the day that they decided to play ball with the Big Boys selling massive amount of vehicles.

        The crazy thing is that despite all of their problems, GM's quality has risen 10 times over the last 10 years while still selling the massive amounts it always has, while Toyota's has fallen. Now that GM is gonna be selling in numbers closer to where Ford is now, something tells me that their quality is gonna out and out blow the Japanese makers away.
        • 5 Years Ago
        As long as said vehicle wears that chrome T or H it could be a pile of crap and still be worth good money. Go figure?

        The only downside to owning a domestic is perception.

        I prefer reality and drive whats left of supporting the American dream.
        • 5 Years Ago
        They're being bought back at 1.5x excellent condition value.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Chassis corrosion is a serious problem on these Toyota trucks-but think how dangerous the first generation 4 Runners are-the ones with tops added on like camper shells when you add rust to the equation.-these vehicles are cheap and often bought by teenagers. In a common type of accident -rollover-these tops collapse like a deck of cards. I studied the Democratization of Japan by it's US Emperor Douglas Macarthur. The Japanese smiled and bowed politely and continued doing business as usual ( Zaibatsu /Kirietsu) . If you can't win militarily maybe you can by financial means .. Ah So !
      • 5 Years Ago
      Why does it seem that most Toyota problems happen with American manufactuered models.

      For example ... in Australia which co-incidentally has amoung the most challenging conditions on earth, Toyota and Nissan pick-ups / 4x4's / commercials are by large the most capable, reliable / dependable / durable hence reputable of all therefore are brought inlarge numbers by farmers, mines, industries, tradies (tradesman), 4x4 enthusiasts and travellers but corrosion is not even remotely an issue. Infact, never has been !!

      Others examples - the US manufactuers 4cyl Camry suffered sludge issues yet in Australia and every other market in world where the Camry is sold, not a single sludge problem reported.

      Then there was the transmission issue with the V6 Camry yet everywhere else in the world the same commonly used tranny has been absolutley suberb and highly regarded as one the best transmissions available.

      So what it is ... Toyota around the rest of the world has very few problems at the most yet American manufactuered models let the rest of the company down all while American built cars in general (GM, Ford & Chrysler) have amoung the worst quality reputation of all.

      Personally, i believe Toyota should stop manufactuering in the US because it is quite obvious that American labour is unable to engineer quality vehicles to the same high standards as many other cultures in the world (Japan, Europe, Australia etc)

      Basically ... any foreign manufactuered Toyota especially from Japan have been amoung the highest quality, most reliable / dependable examples available in America in recent history yet locally / American manufactuered Toyota's seem to have the the bulk of all problems.

      So ... does it say something about Toyota or does it say something about the local American Automotive culture ??
        • 5 Years Ago
        cool story, bro
        • 5 Years Ago
        If you don't like American-built products, then be sure not to fly on any of our airplanes. Have fun traveling abroad by boat.
      • 5 Years Ago
      http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/07/toyota-extends-rust-warranty-on-older-tacoma-pickups-to-15-years/

      It's not really new news - it's only new to the Tundra, which hasn't been out as long as the Tacoma. And they've shown they will pro-actively do the right thing in the past. I've seen them completely replace a truck frame, essentially disassembling and reassembling the whole truck under warranty at the local Toyota dealership.
      -N
      • 5 Years Ago
      So when is the Dateline Reports nightly news expose coming out? Or does bad news about Toyota only show up in internet car enthusiast blogs and not the mainstream media?
        • 5 Years Ago
        Welcome to the realisation I came to years ago. This is who I'm no longer a Toyota fan. Something has made them immune to bad press.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Land Rover owners would consider this as being a case of mild rust that would not even slow their vehicles down.

      Allow me to introduce all to http://www.rust.co.uk/waxoyl-products.cfm or http://www.dinitrol.co.uk/classic_cars.aspx. T

      here are too schools of thoughts on preserving your chassis.
      1-never wash the under carriage in order to allow the formation of a protective layer of grime
      2- Wash the underbelly of the car every chance you get.

      pdsanto
      • 2 Years Ago
      \2002 TOYOTA SEQUOIA SR5 - 66,462M. MECHANIC DISCOVERED THAT THE FRAME OF THIS VEHICLE IS COMPLETELY RUSTED. HOLES IN THE FRAME AND LOTS OF RUST IN KEY JOINS COMPROMISING THE SAFETY OF VEHICLE. TOYOTA CORP. HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE FRAMES OF THE TACOMAS AND TUNDRAS HAD A PREMATURELY RUSTING PROBLEM. THE TOYOTA SEQUOIA HAVE THE SAME FRAME. TOYOTA ISSUED A RECALL ON THESE TWO VEHICLES BUT NOT THE SEQUOIAS. UPON CONTACTING TOYOTA CORP. THEY ASKED THE VEHICLE BE TAKEN TO A TOYOTA DEALERSHIP FOR FRAME INSPECTION. THE INSPECTION REPORT SAY: CUSTOMER REQ. INSPECTION - -> LOOKS LIKE HAMMER HOLE IN BOTTOM OF LT RAIL @ TRANS MOUNT CROSS MEMBER LOTS OF ROT/ MISSING METAL FROM FT RT SWAY BAR MOUNT LOTS OF ROT AT RR CROSS MEMBER (THAT SPSRE HANGS FROM) WHERE MEETS RAIL ON LT SIDE. MY MECHANIC SAID THAT IN ALL HIS LIFE WORKING WITH VEHICLES HAS NEVER SEEN A VEHICLE SO DETERIORATED FROM RUST. ADVISED TO CONTACT TOYOTA BECAUSE OF THE TUNDRA'S RECALL. TOYOTA CORP. WILL NOT ADDRESS MY VEHICLE NOR THOSE OF OTHER SEQUOIA OWNERS THAT I FOUND ON INTERNET FORUMS WITH THE EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEMS. THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW INSTANCES WHERE TOYOTA HAS REPLACED THE FRAME IN VEHICLES WITH HIGHER MILEAGE AND OLDER VEHICLE. TOYOTA CORP. CLAIMS BECAUSE THE VEHICLE IS OUT OF THE 36K MILE WARRANTY THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PREMATURE ROTTING OF THE FRAME. VEHICLE HAS BEEN DRIVEN AN AVERAGE OF 7K MILES A YEAR, MAINTAINED PROPERLY AND IN MINT CONDITION. THE SEQUOIAS SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE FRAME RECALL FROM TOYOTA SINCE IT IS THE SAME FRAME AND MANUFACTURER OF THE TACOMA AND TUNDRA MODELS WHICH TOYOTA HAS ACCEPTED THESE VEHICLES WERE MANUFACTURED WITH SUBSTANDARD FRAMES WHICH LEADS TO PREMATURE ROTTING. THIS FRAME ISSUE MAY BE A SERIOUS SAFETY VIOLATION SPECIALLY FOR THOSE UNAWARE THAT THEIR VEHICLES ARE ABOUT TO COLLAPSE BECAUSE OF FRAME ROT.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Some Toyota trucks, not just the Tundra would start rusting on the lot before they were even sold. I'm not talking about frame rust either, body panel rust bubbles!
        • 5 Years Ago
        Nope, I call b.s. on this one. Prove it. I don't believe it. Not for a Toyota or for a domestic.

        Dave
      • 5 Years Ago
      Rust is always the worst part about Toyotas. I've got a 90 Camry, and I'm gonna be driving around in a 70k mile panelless dune buggy in a couple years. It will be a dune buggy, but it'll have a perfectly working transmission and engine!
      • 5 Years Ago
      You Should have bought an American Made Car!! No wonder we are in the mess we're in!
      • 5 Years Ago
      Canadian Autoworker ... your comment is an absolute load of crock.

      Fact is - every manufactuer in the world wether they engineer trains, planes or automobiles have issues but the difference is - some have more then others while others have more yet again and historically Toyota has rightfully and undeniably proven to be amoung the highest quality, most reliable, dependable and durable motor vehicles that can be purchased from any showroom and today is no different.

      To support my comment, not only has Toyota established itself a strong reputation amoung the general motoring community (you know ... the people who actually buy, drive and own cars) but Toyota and affiliated companys (eg Lexus) have consistantly and constantly rated 'at or towards the very top' in every Quality / Customer Satisfaction Survey for many years and is no different wether it be in the US, Canada, Europe, Australia, Asia and so forth.

      However ... i do agree US manufactuered Toyota's have been affected by an increase in faults in recent years but not only has Toyota generally addressed these problems in an organised and timely manner (as expected from the BIG T) but you can be assured Toyota will strive to ensure the problems are not repeated.
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