Mazda has a lot going on these days, what with launching the new Mazda6 and Mazda3, with the new Mazda2 just around the corner. We know the new Miata is also on the way, and after that it looks like the next vehicle in its lineup due for an overhaul is the CX-9 crossover, due to launch by 2016. The move makes sense because the CUV is growing long in the tooth. It was first introduced in 2007 and was refreshed twice since then.

The next-generation CX-9 will move away from Ford-derived components like the V6 in the current model and will likely use a turbocharged four-cylinder engine. However, a final decision hasn't been made yet. "If I ask Mr. Hitomi, our top guy of powertrains at Mazda, he believes the downsizing turbo solution costs more. But real downsizing means six-cylinder to four-cylinder turbo could make sense from a cost point of view," said Mazda's global marketing boss Masahiro Moro to CarAdvice at the New York Auto Show. The executive said a hybrid powertrain option would be unlikely, but markets outside the US could get a diesel, as well.

Moro also tipped his hand at future Mazda model plans. He hints that the Japanese automaker is considering building a luxury vehicle with a six-cylinder engine. "It's too early, we don't have a car yet. But we are collecting advice as to V6 or straight-six," he said to CarAdvice. We'll definitely be watching.


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      carguy1701
      • 1 Year Ago
      >Mazda >inline-6 I want this to happen
      Jmaister
      • 1 Year Ago
      straight 5 skyactiv, do it!!!!
      MANARC100
      • 1 Year Ago
      Grow the 2.0 two more cylinders and boom you're at an inline 3.0. That seems to work for BMW I cant see why Mazda couldn't do it. Non turbo assuming its same power density it would yield 232hp. If Mazda could figure out turbos and skyactiv then a turbo 2.5 inline 4 and a turbo 3.0 inline 6 would be a real treat for the line up. Topping out around 300-320hp.
        MANARC100
        • 1 Year Ago
        @MANARC100
        BTW if the CX-9 can shed 300-400 lbs it may be able to get around fine on 232hp.
      Matt
      • 1 Year Ago
      Put the diesel in the CX-9. A 30MPG 3-row would sell like hotcakes.
      Fonin
      • 1 Year Ago
      yeah because the 2.3 turbo in the CX7 was so miserly.
      pratomo
      • 4 Months Ago
      good article... reviewnewscar.blogspot.com
      carlotta
      • 1 Year Ago
      Mazda is certainly going for the massive overhang. Or is this the Durante Edition?
      finzenchrome
      • 1 Year Ago
      I think a 4.0 V-8 Skyactiv-G (or D) with 4-2-1's on either side of longitudinal engine, 300+ hp, best in passenger cargo/volume and towing capacity. That's what buyers are looking for in the full sized market, not mpg ratings. Although with lighter weight Skyactiv chassis, it should still have upper ranked mpg and great driving dynamics.
      amge5.5
      • 1 Year Ago
      They need the turbo 4 in the rest of their lineup. With competitors coming out with turbo 4's it is making the SkyActiv engines look bad. Competitors turbo 4's are making much more torque and getting just as good fuel economy as the Skyactiv's.
      graphikzking
      • 1 Year Ago
      Mazda will obviously implore the weight saving strategies they did in their other cars with this car. If they can get the car about 150 lbs lighter and then save another 100 lbs on the engine that means it will be about 6% lighter than the current car. It can then give up 6% of the HP and still "feel" the same. The torque will most likely be a bit better with the turbo with today's tech so it might actually work out. I just hope they don't go turbo because the EPA numbers show turbos very favorable even though in real world driving it doesn't always work out like that.
        Greg
        • 1 Year Ago
        @graphikzking
        The CX-9 is a pig, and it needs to lose a lot more than the 100 kg they've targeted with all their other vehicles. They should shoot for dropping 200 kg (440 lb). If they don't get the weight down, they'll never see decent fuel efficiency out of it.
      Carpinions
      • 1 Year Ago
      I can't see a turbo 4 in this CUV working well. The CX-7 was notoriously choppy in its drive performance and MPG due to its turbo setup. For being a 7-seater CUV, the CX-9 is probably lighter than most, but it's still over 2 tons. They'd have to have a very torquey, lag-free turbo setup with decent displacement, or just go N/A V6. It's already an old model, so developing a class-competitive or even class-leading V6 may take a long time. Mazda is also a company where HP is not the first solution to a problem, so I don't expect the new model to break 300hp. Whatever the new one ends up being, they need to maintain its sales capacity at least. Even being old the current one seems to be selling well, at least in my area.
        360_AD
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Carpinions
        The CX-7 was not a turbo-4. The CX-7 is smaller and has been replaced by the CX-5. It's an apples to oranges comparison and not relevant. A turbo-4 can work in the CX-9 if weight reduction is part of the program, and it is a part of Mazda's Skyactiv routine. The turbo can provide top end power while an i-Eloop system provide the electric boost to make up for turbo lag. It can be done. Given any problem, engineers always find solutions. It's their job!
          360_AD
          • 1 Year Ago
          @360_AD
          My bad, it was a turbo... but still... much older technology and not a relevant basis to judge what can be done for the CX-9.
        Greg
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Carpinions
        I agree Carpinions. They NEED to cut a lot of weight, and then they could get by with a slightly less powerful but more efficient engine. The 2.2L diesel would be ideal for the CX-9, but they have said since the US is its primary market, it has to have a gasoline option. I think a V6 makes the most sense, but a turbo 4 would permit them to simplify the engine bay structure & reuse more of their existing SkyActiv platform. However, on that note--we may see a SkyActiv Body 2.0 on their next generation of cars because of the new small overlap crash tests. They can't afford to wait too long and continue scoring poorly in that test.
      Vinuuz
      • 1 Year Ago
      The diesel in the foreign markets is what it actually needs - and by then the crossblue would already be there as a competition. Turbo 4 - not sure how good an idea that is - any idea on how well the explorer ecoboost sells?
        360_AD
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Vinuuz
        That would be nice wouldn't it? Problem is they are having trouble balancing emissions, efficiency and performance for the US market. It is why the diesel 6 has been delayed several times.
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