Bad news, sportscar fans. According to a new report from What Car?, Toyota has cancelled plans to produce a GT86 convertible, a model based on the FT-86 Open Concept that debuted at the 2013 Geneva Motor Show. In truth, Toyota never actually confirmed it would produce the budget-friendly droptop in the first place, but rumors have been flying since last year and Toyota reportedly showed its embattled Scion dealers a FR-S version of the convertible in August. Presumably, this means that a lidless variant of the Subaru BRZ is not in the cards, either.

The reason for the move is unknown, though What Car? reports "one possible cause is weight; Toyota did say that further work would be required on rigidity before the convertible could be launched, and that could have added extra bulk that conflict with the regular GT86's ethos of light weight and agile handling." It doesn't look like that work will happen anytime soon, as "sources now say that the car has now been delayed indefinitely, with no place in Toyota's product plan in either 2014 or 2015." Still holding out hope? What Car? says the project could be "fast-tracked" if management decides it wants to reboot the program down the road.
one possible cause is weight; Toyota did say that further work would be required on rigidity before the convertible could be launched, and that could have added extra bulk that conflict with the regular GT86's ethos of light weight and agile handling. - See more at: http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/toyota-gt86-cabriolet-cancelled/1214782#sthash.iStIkWnz.dpuf
one possible cause is weight; Toyota did say that further work would be required on rigidity before the convertible could be launched, and that could have added extra bulk that conflict with the regular GT86's ethos of light weight and agile handling. - See more at: http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/toyota-gt86-cabriolet-cancelled/1214782#sthash.iStIkWnz.dpuf


I'm reporting this comment as:

Reported comments and users are reviewed by Autoblog staff 24 hours a day, seven days a week to determine whether they violate Community Guideline. Accounts are penalized for Community Guidelines violations and serious or repeated violations can lead to account termination.


    • 1 Second Ago
  • 81 Comments
      Avinash Machado
      • 1 Year Ago
      Sad.
      KAG
      • 1 Year Ago
      Would have been cool, but why do car companies think they need to add useless backseats to topless cars that nobody can use?
        domingorobusto
        • 1 Year Ago
        @KAG
        Insurance. No matter how useless, a back seat lowers rates.
        PICKLEBOY
        • 1 Year Ago
        @KAG
        Lowering insurance rates at this price point is very very important for their customer base. People buying this car a lot of the time are younger buyers and when you have a sports car on your insurance it gets real expensive and having those two extra seats helps lower it
      Bobby
      • 1 Year Ago
      The problem is not the cars sales, for the small market it's in, the sales are fine, also considering the identical BRZ is also rolled out of the same factory. I think there are still market execs who didn't want the 86 to begin with, so Toyoda may not easily green light this one. Being that is also toyota, they sometimes, and often, underestimate the market
      DRAGON
      • 1 Year Ago
      ~50'000 cars/year is quite good for this niche (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10766). I don't understand why they cancelled the convertible.
      • 1 Year Ago
      [blocked]
        Seal Rchin
        • 1 Year Ago
        We both know you never drove it.
        • 1 Year Ago
        [blocked]
        404 not found
        • 1 Year Ago
        Not everyone is a 55 year old balding male?
        Bernard
        • 1 Year Ago
        If you want it as a second car and don't have tons of money own two nice cars, I can see why someone would get one. Sure you could always get something faster on the used market but it will have to be at least 3 years old to compare with the FR-S's price.
      Andrew
      • 1 Year Ago
      Thanks but no thanks I will take a Camero SS convertable way faster adn way better looking and way more reialble
        chrismcfreely
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Andrew
        The camaro is shockingly hideous, and undeniably less reliable than this. Are you trolling or stupid?
          ryanandrewmartin
          • 1 Year Ago
          @chrismcfreely
          +1
          YellowJacket
          • 1 Year Ago
          @chrismcfreely
          Especially in convertible form. Not to mention it is too big of a car on twisty rural highways, the natural home of a convertible sports car.
        thequebecerinfrance
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Andrew
        Camaro is handling disaster, a big fat pig. It's ugly, it's a GM so yes it will not be as reliable as a Toyota. Suck it up fanboy.
        fabulous71
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Andrew
        And heavy as a PIG.
        thequebecerinfrance
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Andrew
        Oh and the Camaro SS is way more expensive, certainly not worth it's price.
          Street King
          • 1 Year Ago
          @thequebecerinfrance
          Handling disaster eh? Guess you didn't see the results of the Car and Driver 2013 Lightening Lap yet huh? Camaro SS 1LE ran the same lap time as the Mercedes C63 AMG Black Series and BEAT the BMW M% and M6. The car handles BETTER than the BRZ/FRS chick cars.
          thequebecerinfrance
          • 1 Year Ago
          @thequebecerinfrance
          @Street King The 1LE handles better than the FRS? I certainly hope so, it's 3 times the price! And it'sa race car, may be the M's on a race track but don't try to use it as a daily driver.
      nocommie11
      • 1 Year Ago
      Of course they won't make the convertible, they can't sell all the couples they have collecting dust at the dealerships. Once the hype wore off, everyone realized that these cars are extremely underpowered and cheaply built.
        • 1 Year Ago
        @nocommie11
        [blocked]
        Bruce Lee
        • 1 Year Ago
        @nocommie11
        Has nothing to do with the hype wearing off, there's just no market for these cars in the USA. Porsche's Cayman sales, Ford's Mustang sales, etc. all took a dive off a cliff after the 2008 financial crisis and none of the sales have rebounded.
          Teleny411
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Bruce Lee
          There's been next to no marketing either.
        PatrickH
        • 1 Year Ago
        @nocommie11
        The FR-S is Scion's best selling model. And Subaru can't keep them on the lots. Collecting dust my ass. Try another one...
      gary
      • 1 Year Ago
      Give me a targa roof option and we'll call it even.
      • 1 Year Ago
      [blocked]
      chrismcfreely
      • 1 Year Ago
      This is GOOD news for sports car fans, nothing with a folding roof is a real sports car.
      YellowJacket
      • 1 Year Ago
      They realized Miata is a bit too well established in the market to be unseated by a half-hearted attempt like hacking the roof off a FRS. GM went all in with two different models (Solstice & Sky) and still couldn't pull it off.
        jrmosery86
        • 1 Year Ago
        @YellowJacket
        I'm pretty sure it was designed from the get-go as a convertible.
        Narom
        • 1 Year Ago
        @YellowJacket
        That would be because the Solstice was butt ugly, the sky was much better but it didn't have the charm of the Mazda.
          utekineir
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Narom
          The solstices looked nice from the outside. Sitting in one you soon become fully aware of why gm needed a bailout in the first place.
        wtrmlnjuc
        • 1 Year Ago
        @YellowJacket
        The FR-S was designed with a convertible version in mind, so everything's there except for the convertible part.
      digitalwatch
      • 1 Year Ago
      It will be interesting to see how the next year plays out sales wise. I work for a Toyota/Scion dealership and we sold two FRS's over the entire summer. It's got to a point where we have one in stock and we don't order any more until that one is gone, and the one we have has been here since March. It's getting close to a point where we don't even want them in stock. We went a month with out a test drive in a FRS. I think it has a better chance at being terminated than enhanced. The Scion brand is absolutely dead in the water. It simply can't carry the price tag the convertible or even a turbo model would require. I think the big problem is that it can really only be a second car, I would go as far as saying it's garbage as a daily driver. People in the market for a sporty second car have a lot more money to spend and simply aren't interested in a discount sports car simulator.
        Fugsworth@yahoo.com
        • 1 Year Ago
        @digitalwatch
        I always suspected it's because the target audience for the FR-S (young, male, enthusiast) tends not to have any money. I know that's the sole reason I haven't bought one...
        clquake
        • 1 Year Ago
        @digitalwatch
        The way I see it, the Scion brand is below Toyota, sort of a gateway to Toyota. It's a big marketing mistake since elsewhere, it's a Toyota and doesn't carry that stigma. I also see virtually no mainstream advertising (network TV/bigger cable channels) for the Scion brand in general, much less a Scion FRS. I see no reason it can't be a daily driver, if Porsches, Corvettes, Miatas, Camaros, Mustangs, generally "sportier" cars are used as daily drivers, then the Scion can be as well. Also your attitude as a Scion/Toyota employee reflects to the customer, whether you're in sales or service. If you don't like it, then the clients will see that and they'll translate that "to go elsewhere."
          digitalwatch
          • 1 Year Ago
          @clquake
          I do marketing for a group of dealerships, our problem with Scion is we get no traffic at all on any level, no walk-ins, no phone calls, no emails. The FRS doesn't even get the test pilots that have no chance of buying it. I don't really deal with the customers. The most popular response to Scion is, "What's a Ski-on?" People will live with more when it's a Porsche, Corvette, Mustang or what ever because they have some panache. They're also way better cars. Although I'm in an area that gets a real winter and all those cars disappear once the snow comes.
        404 not found
        • 1 Year Ago
        @digitalwatch
        The thing I notice about dealers sitting on non-moving inventory is they are putting a ridiculous mark up on the car. Or it's an automatic with a bunch of overpriced options that no one wants.
          digitalwatch
          • 1 Year Ago
          @404 not found
          Believe it or not, I've never seen an automatic FRS, they all sell before they ever get to the dealership. There are no options on an FRS, touch screen stereo or not, auto or manual. That's it. We don't do any of the accessories because like you said, those cars end up stuck in place on the lot.
        PICKLEBOY
        • 1 Year Ago
        @digitalwatch
        What planet do you live on? In my town they dont keep a FR-S on the lot for more than 15 days
        PatrickH
        • 1 Year Ago
        @digitalwatch
        LOL, you're so full of it. Through 2012 and 2013 the FR-S is Scion's BEST SELLING CAR. Nice try though.
          digitalwatch
          • 1 Year Ago
          @PatrickH
          Being the best selling Scion is like being the best African Hockey team.
    • Load More Comments
    Share This Photo X