• May 10, 2010
Can you push a marble through a rusted-out hole in the frame of your 2000-2003 Toyota Tundra? If so, you may be eligible for a brand new frame courtesy of Toyota Motor Company. Toyota truck fanboy site Tundra Headquarters reports that the automaker is going a step beyond its original recall, which covered rusting rear-cross members. That recall was originally intended for the 20 cold weather states, though Toyota later expanded the safety action nationwide.

Toyota will reportedly cover the cost to replace the frame of any affected Tundra, provided that the rusted holes are at least 10 millimeters in diameter and the powertrain is in working order. The rust-induced holes also have to be in certain strategic areas to be eligible, and the Japanese automaker will provide a loaner vehicle while your truck is in the shop. This frame replacement procedure reportedly costs up to $10,000. Toyota is offering to replace frames of the 2000-2003 Tundras until April of 2012.

[Source: Kicking Tires]


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      jerry
      • 4 Years Ago
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      • 4 Years Ago

      This "repair/replacement" would be considered "frame damage" if sold at auction. In other words, it would have to announced at time of sale and would negatively effect the value of the vehicle.
        • 4 Years Ago
        But it WAS damaged and is now NEW, doesn't that count? Not that a 2000 Tundra is going to fetch much at auction, but one with a new frame would surely be worth more than one with a rusty frame...just sayin' is all.
        • 4 Years Ago
        The only reason toyota is doing this is to head off massive lawsuits. Now that toyota has admitted what everyone else knows, what do you thing the resale value of a tundra will be? Poor quality and rusting out vehicles in the seventies is what drove people to buy jap vehicles to begin with so when are people going to wisen up and stop buying japanese? In the early 90's, the japanese admitted that the US manufactures built a superior vehicle than the japanese so why hasn't the media and american companies used that to their advantage? Because false preceptions are hard to break but now maybe people will start to se the light! If this was a Ford or Chevy vehicle, the media would be all over it. Makes you wonder what is going on with the media, could it be toyota has threatened to pull all their advertising bucks?
      • 4 Years Ago
      A body shop owner pal once told me that the rust problem was from using recycled rusted metal. So what happens to owners who took a hit and dumped their rust buckets?
      • 4 Years Ago
      So those trucks with what is about a 4" hole will get new frames? That size hole in any frame would tend to have a catastrophic failure by now.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Why not give someone $10,000 towards a new Toyota? I bet people would jump all over that, and they would at least move some units vs. just repairing old stuff.
        • 4 Years Ago
        +1 on the idea to have them put the money towards a new toyota instead.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Well yes, that would be your first reaction - not to buy another.

        However, if you have some truck that is about to fall apart, and you have two options:

        --Get it "fixed" (something which is probably showing its age anyway)
        --Drive away in something new, with a long warranty, for a HUGE discount

        You assume people are going to hate Toyota because they had an issue. They are 'making it right', and people would probably love to get a new car for a cheap price.

        I drive a older Toyota, and while it is not my favorite car, if there was an issue, and I was offered to have it 'fixed' or to get $10,000 towards a new car, I would jump all over the chance to get a new car for used prices (especially if you got something cheaper, your out of pocket could be very low).
        • 4 Years Ago
        They've already been through this with the Tacoma. In that case, it seems that they just bought them back and squashed them. Maybe it's going to hurt the "X percent of Toyotas made in the last 20 years are still on the road" ...
        • 4 Years Ago
        If your Toyota rusted out from underneath you, would you really want to run out and purchase another one? I know Toyota buyers are sheep but are they that clueless?
        • 4 Years Ago
        I bet the frame swap isn't gonna cost Toyota 10K. If they have their own techs do it at an on site body shop, it will be worked in as a warranty claim most likely and they will pay a reduced rate to get the work done. Sure it won't be free or anything, but I seriously doubt Toyota is gonna pay list price or full book time for the repairs.

        Lets say a new frame is gonna be $1,000. (Toyota's cost... List is probably $3,000)

        Then labor. I don't remember what book time is on a frame swap, but lets say 50 hours to be fair. Mechanical labor typically is around $85 an hour around here.

        50x$85= $4,250. So a guesstimate of $5,250 to repair the frame issue on each truck.

        Lot's cheaper than writing off a $10,000 voucher towards a new vehicle.
        • 4 Years Ago
        If I owned one of these trucks, I definitely wouldn't buy a Toyota again, so I don't know if that would work.......
      • 4 Years Ago
      More sabatoge most of these trucks were made here in the U.S., so what does this tell you,it's funny that toyota is the only one having excelerator problems The Big Three Were Having Problems Building A Reliable Car Or Truck
      • 4 Years Ago
      Let's get something straight once in for all. While japanese cars are assembled here, the specs are japanese, stuff is made on japanese tooling, over all supervisors are japanese and most parts are made in japan and shipped to the US factories only to be assembled not "built here". There is a difference between being built and assembled. Built implies the parts are made by americans for americans and assembled means being put together by americans. Ask your self this, if you buy a model kit and put it together, did you build it or just assemble it? You assembled it because you didn't design and actually manufacture the parts! No difference than how japanese cars are "made" in this country!
      tdeception420
      • 4 Years Ago
      This happen to me about a year ago Toyota paid me book value $7500 the funny thing is I only paid $2500 for it and it had over 250,000 miles on it and never gave me one problem ,so I made a quick $5000 for my trouble..I ended up buying a newer one and it too has given me any problems either..
      mary Lou
      • 4 Years Ago
      WE WON THE WAR-- BUT LOST THE BATTLE !! Japan's still trying to kill us off ! !
      • 4 Years Ago
      As a decades long import car mechanic at both the dealer level and self-employment level, I can state unequivocally that the Asian cars have just as many problems, recalls, and coverups as anyone else.
      The dealer level included Subaru, Honda, and Nissan. The self level includes everything else.

      Anyone who doesn't think that Asian cars have their fair share of problems should go to work for an Asian car dealer for about 10 years and then post back with an opinion.
      • 4 Years Ago
      funny thing is that my dad has 2003 Tundra and has yet to receive a single piece of information from Toyota, notifying him of his frame recall/TSB or w.e the hell they call it.
      • 4 Years Ago
      America should wake up and accept the fact that Toyota makes dangerous vehicles. I have never owned a foreign made vehicel and have and will always own a better built and high quality American car and or truck.
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