• Jan 12, 2010
From the "things that should probably already be there" file comes the announcement that Toyota will be installing brake override systems in response to recent incidents of runaway cars. Toyota North America president Yoshi Inaba told Automotive News that the system will force the engine into idle if it senses the driver is trying to apply the brakes unsuccessfully.

The Toyota Camry and Lexus ES350 will be the first models to get the new system, with installation beginning this month. Toyota's effort follows on the heels of a massive 3.8 million vehicle recall to reshape and replace accelerator pedals. The automaker is attributing reports of runaway cars on floor mat interference with the pedals, though the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reportedly remains suspicious of other contributing factors.

[Source: Automotive News - sub. req.]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      I work around a lot of "automatic machinery". If something is spiraling out of control, there is always a large big red emergency stop button near by. Why not install one of these on the dash of all new cars that cuts idles the engine, turns on the hazards, and applies the breaks. This would be fun for passengers who like to play pranks on drivers as well. ;)
      • 5 Years Ago
      Brake Override? Awesome! Just one step away from Launch Control for the camry!
        • 5 Years Ago
        LMAO... We expect LC for Camry in the next 3 years... but wait... for what?
      • 5 Years Ago
      This is going to really piss off all the people that brake with their left foot and leave it on the pedal partially depressing the pedal enough to trigger the tail lights.
      "My Toytota won't go no more!!!" LOL

      Just bring back the key ignition switch please. I can turn off my older car in far less than three seconds by turning the key in the ignition switch.
      Everyone can't be saved from themselves.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Richmurp.nospam,

        Are you suggesting that people turn off their ignition if their accelerator is stuck? I hope not, because that would be the most idiotic thing to suggest (especially since you'd lose the ability to steer AND brake, something you might want to do in a runaway car).
        • 5 Years Ago
        "Just bring back the key ignition switch please"

        Hear hear. What's the point of push button start anyway? Is it really that difficult to take out a key, stick it into the keyhole and turn the effing thing to start the goddamned car?
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        How many idiots really ride the brakes out there?
        • 5 Years Ago
        Since idiots usually drive Toyota cars I would suspect many LOL
        invisiblepigeon3
        • 5 Years Ago
        mofan,

        I think you have Toyota confused for GM in your statement.

        daleam,

        Sounds like someone has key envy! It's actaully really nice to have the pushbutton start on a car you drive a lot. Since you never have to take the key out of your pocket, it means it's a lot harder to lose your car key, and it's also nice for speedy ingress and egress.

        Brad,

        I'd teach him how to drive before he eats up the brakes and has a runaway truck. Then people will be screaming for blood because it was the people who made the improperly used truck's fault!!!!
      • 4 Years Ago
      We have already said you. ASSOCIATION OF AFFECTED BY TOYOTA was (and is, and will be) right. Toyota says that sell QUALITY cars, but Toyota is a fake.
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      No dejes que te Toyota te ignore. ÚNETE A LA PLATAFORMA.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Surely the start of the headline of this post should read 'BRAKING'?
      • 5 Years Ago
      "Are you suggesting that people turn off their ignition if their accelerator is stuck? I hope not, because that would be the most idiotic thing to suggest (especially since you'd lose the ability to steer AND brake, something you might want to do in a runaway car)."
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      Excuse me, but aren't cars SUPPOSED to be steerable as long as the key is in the ignition? It'd be pretty stupid if they couldn't, because you'd have no way to steer a disabled car off the road if the engine had to be on to steer. Turning the ignition "off" is not the same as removing the keys.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Just another example of Toyota doing what they should have admitted at the beginning of this investigation. But, they didn't want to damage the reputation of the do no wrong company. Toyota should be paying for this in the marketplace, and perhaps will now that the media appears to have stopped giving them a free ride.
      • 5 Years Ago
      This is an admission that Toyota cannot guarantee any of their other fixes will work. Man, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with these cars. I’m telling you, these people don’t know what they are doing.
        Gina
        • 5 Years Ago
        VW should have jumped on this issue 2 months ago and advertised - "we are one of the few automakers who have the brake override" - and should have advertised it like crazy. Now Toyota gets free advertisement through the media that Toyota cars from now on will have brake override.

        A potential future buyer would ask -Should I buy a another brand with no brake override, or should I just get a Toyota that has it (or buy a VW if I only knew they had that feature)? Guess what - this means more sales for Toyota from free advertisement.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @Gina - that'd be a fun meeting for marketing. "so the engineering guys want us to advertise something we've had standard for a decade because apparently toyota just got on the bandwagon."



      • 5 Years Ago
      Does this mean the new 2011 Sienna is affected?
      • 5 Years Ago
      "it senses the driver is trying to apply the brakes unsuccessfully"
      Excuse me, but some of these runaway accounts say the driver was unable to apply the brakes AT ALL. The brake PEDAL could not be depressed. And if you can't press the brake pedal, how is the car supposed to know if you want to stop?
        • 5 Years Ago
        No. The brake pedal is able to be applied, but because the brakes were overheated, it didn't work.

        that's the first try. If he tried to apply it again, he would not longer have brake boost, and so the brake pedal would become hard as a rock and it would be difficult to apply the brakes. It is possible, but it's difficult and requires a strong leg.

        Of course, in all these cases, it would've been far more effective to just put in in neutral at first...
        • 5 Years Ago
        paul34, I refer you to autos.aol.com/article/runaway-toyotas

        Specifically,
        "snookumz50 Nov 08, 2009 11:59 AM
        I have a 2007 Camry and after 4 months of driving I had the sudden acceleration problem. NO, IT'S NOT THE MATS. My son was in the passenger seat that day. Suddenly my car began to acellerate and picking up speed at the same time -while going up hill. My son checked to see if the pedal was stuck on the mat --- and it wasn't. I kept hitting the brake with extreme force, but the pedal wouldn't budge. It seemed frozen in the up position. I also applied the emergency brake, again nothing happened. Luckily for my son's quick thinking he put the car into neutral, still the brake wouldn't depress, then he threw it into park --- and that's when it finally stopped."
      • 5 Years Ago
      This is going to really piss off all the people that brake with their left foot and leave it on the pedal partially depressing the pedal enough to trigger the tail lights.
      "My Toytota won't go no more!!!" LOL

      Just bring back the key ignition switch please. I can turn off my older car in far less than three seconds by turning the key in the ignition switch.
      Everyone can't be saved from themselves.
        Gina
        • 5 Years Ago
        OMG - I can't believe it. Toyota turns a huge problem recall into an
        opportunity to sell more cars. Now the game has been changed again.
        Because of all the media attention, a potential future buyer would
        ask -Should I buy a Ford, GM, Chrysler, Honda, or Nissan with no brake override, or
        should I just get a VW or Toyota that have it. Now that this issue is
        front and center, all other makers will have to follow suit - or be
        left in the dust by VW and Toyota.

        G
      • 5 Years Ago
      Toyota is doing this because they do not have much faith with their fix for the "sudden acceleration" problem. The real fix probably lies in the software of that control.
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