REPORT: 2011 Ford F-150 to share new V8 with Mustang, also get EcoBoost V6
PickupTrucks.com is reporting that by the end of 2010, Ford will alter the three engine options that currently make up the engine choices in the F-150. What is coming in time for the 2011 model year will be a new 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 and a 5.0-liter V8 code-named "Coyote."
Subbing the V6 EcoBoost for the V8 is about providing the same power with more efficiency. Said to be the premium engine for light-duty trucks, the direct-injection gas engine will offer something like 400 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque while carrying an EPA rating of "at least 23 miles-per-gallon on the highway." Those power numbers handily beat what you'll get from any of the current engines on offer, even though it's down two cylinders.
The "Coyote" 5.0-liter, modular, four-valve V8 will have "huge heads," and will return the same numbers as the V6: 400 hp and 400 lb-ft. This engine will become the standard F-150 lump, returning the same gas mileage as the current 5.4-liter but with much more power. This same engine will also reportedly find its way into the Mustang. That will leave the 6.2-liter V8 (the Boss) slated for the Raptor later this year as last engine choice (unless there's a 4-cylinder EcoBoost added in 2013), and it will go into special edition F-150s and the Super Duty trucks.
[Source: PickupTrucks.com]
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Dave 11:23AM (1/20/2009)
Can you imagine what will happen when someone like APR gets their hands on the software for these???
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Serge 11:27AM (1/20/2009)
An EcoBoost Mustang might replace the tuner's wet dream fantasy 1,000hp Supra :0
Serge 11:25AM (1/20/2009)
Can't wait for the EcoBoost Mustang vs 5.0 Mustang vs Camaro SS comparison...
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Berto 11:30AM (1/20/2009)
Awesome!! 5.0 Mustang is back!!
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Mr. H 11:30AM (1/20/2009)
I thought the 6.2L Boss was also supposed to make 400 hp and 400 lb.ft. of torque....
Three engines in a lineup, all with identical power and torque outputs? That seems like an awful way to drive up manufacturing and repair costs for no benefit.
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Christian 11:34AM (1/20/2009)
The last two, 4.6 and 5.4 has the same hp rating but higher TQ in the bigger motor (320 vs 365).
These are just estimates, so I expect the 6.2 will have alot more TQ.
Serge 11:36AM (1/20/2009)
A DOHC 6.2L V8 should be good for at least 480hp.
Plus in the Mustang, the EcoBoost will make 355hp.
* EcoBoost : 355hp - 350ft-lb torque
* 5.0L V8 : 400hp - 400ft-lb torque
* 6.2L V8 : 480hp??? - 400ft-lb torque???
I'm guessing the 6.2L V8 will replace the Supercharged 5.4L in the Cobra.
Robert 2:35PM (1/20/2009)
The 6.2 was given DI to prolong its life (more efficient). That DI change will likely give it in the 425hp and 450tq range (those are the most popular estimates I've heard thrown around). Although rumor is Ford is able to push its power curve up higher, but they are trying for relative fuel efficiency.
The 5.0 DI will not quite be getting 400hp, but it will be close. Again, the most popular numbers I've heard is that both the 3.5EB and 5.0DI will have 370-380 hp and right around 400 tq. 2011 is a ways off, yet, though.
But, we've known the basics of this for several months. This isn't really new news.
Red 11:31AM (1/20/2009)
Purists and nostalgic purposes aside, I don't get the point of the V8 with this Ecoboost V6 in either vehicle. I realize there's still a market for V8s (though it seems to be dwindling), but why not keep the current V8 and phase it out all together? It'd be a helluva lot easier to get people to notice if they say, "hey, our EcoBoost V6 is just as good as our V8, but more efficient. See? And this is important because this is the future and this is how good our technology really is. Come jump on board."
Or maybe that's just me.
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revaholic 12:09PM (1/20/2009)
I completely agree with you. I feel like the V8 is just there to appease rednecks who won't have anything less than a V8 or something!
JF 12:25PM (1/20/2009)
Red,
It's called an exhaust note. A v8 sings a much different (and much better IMO) song than a v6. And there is something to be said about a naturally aspirated big torque engine.
C.W. 12:46PM (1/20/2009)
yeah.. its just you... and revaholic...
naturally aspirated 5.0 V8... nothing better. the sound. the potential. its a thing of beauty.
Craig 1:49PM (1/22/2009)
The cost of manufacturing the v8 is next to nothing for Ford. Design and tooling costs were payed for years ago.
Red 1:44PM (1/20/2009)
And yet neither of you actually answered my question. What advantage,
other than soothing your egos, does the V8 have over the Ecoboost V6? There was a naturally aspirated DI V6 at the LA Auto Show that sounded particularly delightful, had the output of a Porsche 911 Carrera S and was rated the same EPA efficiency as a Toyota Prius.
Before you say "impossible", the same V6 has been driven by the media and will be on display next month at the Japantown Underground Garage in San Francisco. So please tell me you have a stronger argument than "sound" and "potential"...
JF 2:50PM (1/20/2009)
Red,
You apparently only read the 1st half of my 1st comment. I'll make it easier for you to comprehend:
1.) There is something to be said for a naturally aspirated big torque engine.
2.) While YOU may think that a v6 sounds "particularly delightful", you failed to answer my point that it does NOT sound like a v8. Sound is part of the driving experience. It's an enthusiast thing.
If you want to focus more on mpg, I'm sure the 5.0 could be adapted to run on lower displacement with ecoboost. And it would STILL sound great compared to the v6. So there, your points have been addressed.
stealthebeatles 3:13PM (1/20/2009)
The impression I was under is that the ecoboost V6 would have it's pick power at higher RPM's. Thus, from my understanding, the V8 would be better for towing applications (more low end torque) because it wouldn't have to rev as high, which would also put less stress on the engine.
I don't know a ton about engines, but this is what I have been able to garner from the things I've read.
Jeremy B 11:37AM (1/20/2009)
Great job ford. V8s are out, V6s are in. You fellas have your heads together.
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MikeW 2:21PM (1/20/2009)
Ford should get the ZF 8 speed auto asap.
F-150
3.7 V6-4x2
3.5 twin turbo direct injected V6 (ecoboost)-4x4
diesel (4.4?)
F-super duty
5.0 V8-4x2
6.2 V8 (replaces the V10)-4x4
diesel (6.4?)
Joe 11:41AM (1/20/2009)
Red...to you, 300 HP is 300 HP. To me, driving a Mustang GT with a 300 HP V8, it's not about the 300 HP, it's the V8. A Mustang GT gets a V8, regardless of the power output. Also, the market for V8 Pony cars isn't dwindling...people are still buying them, but car buying is down across the board. Many people are holding on to their Mustang GTs now, because they're waiting for either the 2010 GT to be released for sale, or their waiting for this new engine family to be released.
If it were my wife driving a Mustang with an available Ecoboost, I'd likely opt for the Ecoboost, because she wouldn't know the difference, but for me, it's got to be a V8.
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patrick clement 12:04PM (1/20/2009)
I am with you man, a v6, or a sorry ass four cylinder just will not do it, They sound weak. Leave these to the tuner punks.