• Jan 20th 2009 at 11:17AM
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PickupTrucks.com is reporting that by the end of 2010, Ford will alter the three engine options that currently make up the engine choices in the F-150. What is coming in time for the 2011 model year will be a new 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 and a 5.0-liter V8 code-named "Coyote."

Subbing the V6 EcoBoost for the V8 is about providing the same power with more efficiency. Said to be the premium engine for light-duty trucks, the direct-injection gas engine will offer something like 400 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque while carrying an EPA rating of "at least 23 miles-per-gallon on the highway." Those power numbers handily beat what you'll get from any of the current engines on offer, even though it's down two cylinders.

The "Coyote" 5.0-liter, modular, four-valve V8 will have "huge heads," and will return the same numbers as the V6: 400 hp and 400 lb-ft. This engine will become the standard F-150 lump, returning the same gas mileage as the current 5.4-liter but with much more power. This same engine will also reportedly find its way into the Mustang. That will leave the 6.2-liter V8 (the Boss) slated for the Raptor later this year as last engine choice (unless there's a 4-cylinder EcoBoost added in 2013), and it will go into special edition F-150s and the Super Duty trucks.

[Source: PickupTrucks.com]

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      • 6 Years Ago
      Reasons for V8: Price, turbo lag, exhaust note.

      I'm with you guys, though, I'll take the EcoBoost. Assuming that Ford meant that the EcoBoost would cost $700 more than the Coyote engine back when, there's just... well, no reason not to for me. If both engines can do the same job, you know... buy the one that does the job cheaper and more efficiently.

      ...And that's coming from a guy that would like to have his vehicle's greasy bits take on a canine name. I mean, just look at my avatar.

      (Also, note: I'm talking about the F-150 specifically. Mustang, well, I can see the reason for it to have the V-8. Taking away its V8 would be like trying to take away its RWD setup, it's just not right. Ford has tried both, with the Mustang II and the Ford Probe/Mustang Concept. If you want a V6 car, I'd recommend you buy a Japanese import.)
      • 6 Years Ago
      It doesn't seem like the Hurricane 6.2L will be much of a power step up. Hmmm.

      But bring on the Mustang GT 5.0! I guess it's cliche to ask for an IRS too.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I am excited about the new possible engine line up for the mustang but a little disappointed they are sticking with overhead cams for the V8s. Pushrod engines are WAY lighter, much cheaper to construct, more compact, more reliable, lower center of gravity and can still be optimized quite well. Now they are able to add VVT and direct injection to pushrods, it would really push the outputs up.

      I am a Ford guy and love the old 5.0 because it was so light weight. Chevy keeps developing it's pushrod and the 6.2L is putting out 426hp and gets pretty good milage in return. Think of what they could do if they applied modern engineering principles to that engine and added an aluminum block and heads. My biggest fault with DOHC is mainly that it is wieght. An iron blog 5.0 with iron heads is about 135lbs lighter than the 4.6 DOHC engine. With aluminum heads and block it could chop another 130-150lbs of the weight. Weight negatively effects all aspects of performace as well as hurting fuel economy. A 3300lbs mustang with a 380hp pushrod V8 would be an awsome performer and much better that a 3600lbs Mustang with 400hp.

      I had heard early rumors of the Hurricane engine being a pushrod but I guess that fell through.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Can't wait for the EcoBoost Mustang vs 5.0 Mustang vs Camaro SS comparison...
      • 6 Years Ago
      Some infos are missing here.

      One thing is clear though, the Turboed engines will be 91 octane minimum, as are all Ford's current turbos. The V8s will be 87 octane for just about any non SVT application, as they have been doing for years.

      Turbo fans don't realize a TC V6 on 91 will cost just as much to run as your current gen Ford V8.
        • 6 Years Ago
        The Ecoboost takes premium.
        Ford says it can adapt to cheapskates.
        • 6 Years Ago

        Ford said that Ecoboost engine will have no need of PREMIUM FUEL since they can with 87 octane!

        Do the research
      • 6 Years Ago
      I really doubt that V8 will produce 400 BHP...?!
      it's Ford's engine , not BMW or Ferrari..
      but if ECO Boost will be 350HP, that let's say 375 BHP 5.0L will be enough, consdering Mustang is lighter than camaro and Chalenger,
      that car would eat RT no problem , and would be equal to Camaro SS, I presume...
      and with that kind of engine Mustang GT with it's great looks ( interior and exterior), and that great engine will be complete car !
      right now Camaro is best ballanced (performance , style..etc..)........

      modern muscle debate
      • 6 Years Ago
      What about the Expedition/ Navigator?
      • 6 Years Ago
      Red...to you, 300 HP is 300 HP. To me, driving a Mustang GT with a 300 HP V8, it's not about the 300 HP, it's the V8. A Mustang GT gets a V8, regardless of the power output. Also, the market for V8 Pony cars isn't dwindling...people are still buying them, but car buying is down across the board. Many people are holding on to their Mustang GTs now, because they're waiting for either the 2010 GT to be released for sale, or their waiting for this new engine family to be released.

      If it were my wife driving a Mustang with an available Ecoboost, I'd likely opt for the Ecoboost, because she wouldn't know the difference, but for me, it's got to be a V8.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I am with you man, a v6, or a sorry ass four cylinder just will not do it, They sound weak. Leave these to the tuner punks.
        • 6 Years Ago
        That's all find and dandy, but I speak from a manufacturer's standpoint. A completely different rationale from yours. I see no manufacturing advantage nor financial advantage in three engines with the same output. The Ecoboost seems that good, IMHO.
      • 6 Years Ago
      It is a shame that Ford is throwing in the towel on V8 and committing themselves to this silly ecoboost nonsense.

      V8 can be extremely efficient...GM has shown us this for years. Ford likes to waste copious amounts of money reinventing the wheel...which is funny because their silly ecoboost engines are no more powerful or efficient than a GM V8...but they will FOR SURE be more problematic.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I think you skipped the article and jumped down to the comments to profess your fanboy love for GM. Ford is not giving up on the V8. As the article states there is a 5.0L V8 in the works for Mustang and F-150. Here is what I have been hearing:

        4.0L V6 @ 210 HP being replaced with 3.7L V6 @ 270 HP
        3.5L V6 ecoboost @ more like 350 HP
        4.6L V8 @ 300 HP going to 315 HP in 2010 then being replaced by 5.0L V8 @ 400 HP
        Possibly, but not likely at the moment, 6.2L V8 @ 420 for Cobra. I would think they would supercharge the 5.0L for Cobra and be done. Claims of 480 HP from the 6.2 are false, infact it may be closer to 400 HP/400 ft-lbs because it was designed for those numbers. The 5.0L V8 is a very expensive engine with twin-overhead cams and 4 valve cylinders designed more for cars. 6.2 is a less expensive engine designed more for trucks.

        3.7, 3.5 EB, 5.0, 6.2 on Raptor and maybe Harley Davidson but not anything else. Also 4.4L V8 diesel, but this may not happen.

        Thats the extent of my knowledge.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I'm glad they're keeping the V8 for the purists and giving the V6s to everyone else. This way, no one feels left out.
      • 6 Years Ago
      wow, kids these days...

      hp@ ????? and lb@ ?????? will not be the same.
      • 6 Years Ago
      That 5.0 will make 400 hp in the Mustang, but pretty sure it will not in the F150.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Nissan's VVeL (lift scaling) 5.0 V8 in the Infiniti Fx50 makes 390hp 369ft-lbs
        It has the same 95.5 mm bore as the VQ35.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Toyota's 'atkinson' cycle 5.0 V8 in the LS hybrid makes 389hp 385ft-lbs (port/direct injected) and has a 94mm bore

        Porsche's 4.8 V8 in the Cayenne makes 380hp 369ft-lbs. That has direct injection, camshaft switching (intake), and dual length intake runners, variable valve timing (intake) & 12.5:1 compression ratio

        375hp at 6000, 350ft-lbs at 4000 would be realistic for the Mustang
        350hp at 5500 350ft-lbs at 3000 for the F-150
        • 6 Years Ago
        I doubt it will even make 400hp in the Mustang.
        Look at the new Jaguar 5.0 385hp 380ft-lbs (direct injection, dual length intake runners, variable intake and exhaust valve timing, camshaft switching)

        If the new 5.0 could make 375hp in the Mustang and 350hp in the F-150, that would be impressive.
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