• Feb 4, 2008


click above for more high-res images of the Toyota FT-HS Concept

The rumor mill is up and running again this week, churning out reports of a new Toyota Celica. While the Toyota line-up once included a variety of sports-coupes, since the cancellation of the Supra, MR2 and Celica, it's had nothing but sedans, hatchbacks, vans and trucks to offer. Rumor has it that a new Celica is on the way, to be built by Subaru, in whose parent company Fuji Heavy Industries Toyota acquired significant stake back in 2005.

If reports out of Japan's BestCar are to be believed, the new Celica will come in two versions: the base GT, with a naturally-aspirated 2-liter Subaru boxer four driving the rear wheels, and a hopped-up GT-Four version with the 300-hp turbo engine from the JDM Impreza STi and all-wheel-drive. The GT-Four could also be a sort of performance hybrid, gaining small electric motors in each of the four wheels. Both the GT and GT-Four are tipped to be available in either two-door or three-door bodystyles, since the Impreza is offered only as a sedan and five-door for this current generation. The new Celica, the styling of which could draw on the FT-HS concept car from last year's Detroit show (pictured above), is reportedly being readied for a launch in Japan next year.

[Source: MotorTrend]




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      • 6 Years Ago
      Well, this should hopefully shut up the people who've beent alking nonstop trash about how the Celica's been worthless since the All-Trac Turbo. I'll also end the "I want a coupe!" that show up every time someone releases a hot hatch or sedan.

      This is basically a WRX/STi coupe. Personally, I don't think I'd buy one. I like the WRX wagon and I very much liked the welterweight Celica GT-S of the last generation, but I can see this appealing to others.
      • 6 Years Ago
      This is going to go one of two ways.

      1: It is going to be a toyota, with a bit of subaru...
      NO GO. A bland car with a subaru drivetrain is a let down.

      2: It is going to be a Subaru with a toyota nameplate on it, like the 93 Probe GT was a Mazda with a ford badge.

      In the second case... 300+ turbocharged horsepower, AWD, and Impreza's blend of Legacy-style front suspension, and tribeca/forester 5-link rear suspension...

      And AWD would not require electric drive, if, like previous rumors have said, they are using a modified Legacy/Impreza chassis to do this. Subaru AWD is right there for use. And with STI's DCCD, you can have BOTH AWD and RWD, at the flick of a switch.

      I have been CLAMORING for a fastback hatch Subaru sport coupe. If this car IS that car, with a "T" on it, rather than the pleiades oval... I'll still buy it.

      I probably would have bought a WRX with a SAAB badge on it, too, if I were looking for an impreza turbo wagon, the SAAB 9'2X Aero looked better at it.

      And you had better believe that it is getting ordered with World Rally Blue Pearl paint, and getting subaru badges the first day it's in my garage. Toyota, my rear diff. This car is a SUBARU!

      I just hope Toyota doesn't make it fugly, like the new Camry, Corrola, and Matrix all are. The last Celica was decent, but the celicas before that were not. The MR2 Spyder didn't look nearly as slick as the 2nd Gen junior ferrari.

      Now THERE is an idea for a RWD subaru powered Toyota. A resurrection of the mid-engined ferrari-junior-style MR2 Turbo, with mid-engined STI turbo boxer power from Subaru, and half the price of the Cayman S, and more powerful.

      Hell, If I could do the work, I'd buy a used MR2 coupe and do that engine swap, if it would fit.

      Anyway, back on topic.
      If Toyota miraculously does this right, I will buy one, and re-badge it back to it's Subaru roots. If they do it wrong, it will be yet another FAIL for Toyota, and Subaru. Subaru should have enough sense to sell an Impreza coupe anyway.
        • 6 Years Ago
        probe GT was a much better car than the mazda

        best handling fwd car of its day
      • 6 Years Ago
      And here i thought Toyota was going to kill the appeal of Subarus. Looks like they went the other direction. Awesome!
      • 6 Years Ago
      @ the small concept picture - SC300 much?
      • 6 Years Ago
      Toyota should seriously bring back the Supra, never mind the celica.
      • 6 Years Ago
      @ryan

      The scion TC is only sold in the US. japan and europe doesn't have a coupe.
      • 6 Years Ago
      "In the second case... 300+ turbocharged horsepower, AWD, and Impreza's blend of Legacy-style front suspension, and tribeca/forester 5-link rear suspension..."

      First its 305 HP (STi), it is on the legacy chasis, but shares no suspension part with the legacy OR forester and definatly NOT the Tribeca. It has the same idea, but better and lighter design fot the impreza's and STi even more so.


      "And AWD would not require electric drive, if, like previous rumors have said, they are using a modified Legacy/Impreza chassis to do this. Subaru AWD is right there for use. And with STI's DCCD, you can have BOTH AWD and RWD, at the flick of a switch."

      SECOND... the DCCD on the STi WILL NOT go 100% rear wheel drive! the most it will go is 70/30 to 30/70 and you can lock it 50/50, but NEVER will you be just FWD or RWD! ASK Threader there he will tell you! he has one hell of a car!! I just hope its the CDN version not the US... more goodies in it!

      Subaru has been building small cars for Toyota in the European market since Toyota bought 8% of Fuji in 2005. There has yet to be North American joint venture.


        • 6 Years Ago
        You're getting REAL specific.

        300+ covers the actual figure of 305. A US model would NOT have the 2.0 Twin Scroll STI engine, it would have the 2.5 liter standard turbo engine, at best, or maybe the Legacy GT or WRX's lower power variants.

        If this is using a shortened Legacy chassis, it is almost SURE to be using the Legacy/08 Impreza front suspension.

        The Tribeca, then the 08 Impreza, and the Forester ALL use derivations of the 2005+ Legacy/Outback chassis, stretched or widened for their purpose.

        The Tribeca brought the 5-link Rear suspension into the mix, for better load-floor clearances, which then was *generally* adapted to the Impreza 5-door, and the new Forester, as well. The next Legacy/Outback iteration will probably get it, as well. Not necessarily the exact same parts, but the same overall design. Better and lighter is fine and very good, but it is still the same overall design.

        Subaru has one evolving chassis that gets adapted for ALL of it's current models, now that the old-chassis Baja is gone.

        If Toyota is using the Legacy, or the derived new Impreza chassis, AND Subaru driveline, and talking about Subaru building it for Toyota, they are likely to be using the Subaru suspension designs (even if it is changed slightly) that comes with it, with a Toyota styled body and interior.

        I thought that DCCD varied between 50:50 and ~0:100, but I am wrong, and stand corrected. Still, DCCD is a very cool tool, and would be welcomed in a Subaru-powered coupe, as would SI-Drive, or even Bilstein's PSS10 system for variable suspension, as well, which is an aftermarket setup.

        I Agree, the STI is a helluva car. I just wish it looked the part. A two door hatchback in the mode of the most recent past Celica, with the WRX STI under the skin is exactly what I would love to take a serious look at.

        But if this is going to turn out to be merely a RWD or AWD Scion TC, and falls short, it will be a big disappointment.

        I'd rather be visiting a Scooby Dealer to buy one, rather than Toyota, but Subaru doesn't seem too keen to sell me one. Heck, I had to find my Legacy GT used, 1500 miles away from my home, because Subaru dealers in my area had no stock to sell in the configuration I wanted.

        If Toyota wants to sell me what I want. I'll buy it when I can afford it. But with a Subaru chassis, a Subaru engine, and Subaru turbocharged, AWD soul under a Toyota skin, It might get the "T" pulled off, and the Subaru oval put in it's rightful place.
      • 6 Years Ago
      As I've said with every "new Toyota sportscar" rumor I've seen over the last 10 years - I'll believe it when I'm driving it away from the dealership. Until then, I consider this BS.
      • 6 Years Ago
      * What happened to the 500 HP AWD Celica/Supra they were planning years ago???
      • 6 Years Ago
      The source is MotorTrend so I wouldn't waste too much time on this rumor.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I've nothing against Subaru,but a Celica should be pure Toyota! Toyota may be oblivious to this,but they do in fact have a sportscar heritage,and an impressive one at that. I've been a Toyota fan for nearly thirty years,but as far as sportscars go,I've lost all faith in Toyota.A hybrid Subaru-derivative Celica? Good grief!
      • 6 Years Ago
      Toyota owns a bigger stake of Yamaha than it does of Fuji Heavy (a.k.a. Subaru)
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