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The 2012 Subaru Impreza is on its way to a dealership near you, and you can pick one up starting in November. Should you prefer to go with something wearing a WRX or STI badge, you don't have to wait, but you'll just have to be happy with the current version, as Subaru is reportedly holding off on bringing revised examples of the hi-po Impreza sedans and wagons to market.

According to Car and Driver, Subaru plans to continue building the same well-liked Impreza WRX and STI until the new cars are ready, likely in a couple of years. The idea is to allow the revised Impreza to gain some traction before launching the furiously fast versions. Hopefully, the lag time between models will give Subaru boffins time to produce models worthy of wearing those special badges.


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      BUNKRE
      • 3 Years Ago
      That's turbo lag for ya.
      Michael
      • 3 Years Ago
      This is seriously the best news I've heard all day. Gives me some time before I replace my Current WRX.
      McNonymous
      • 3 Years Ago
      Here's to wishing the FXT goes back to WRX/STI platform...
        Drakkon
        • 3 Years Ago
        @McNonymous
        Supposedly it's still under there, somewhere. I have an FXT (2005) and LOVE it, because it is a Rex, with a taller roof. Great concept.
        Brandon Allen
        • 3 Years Ago
        @McNonymous
        OR, if the new subaru XV which seems quite similar in size to the older Forester models gets a Turbo version we might not have to worry about it. I like the older Forester better in Turbo trim but I like the newer one better as an actual small SUV. I'd rather the Forester become more of a contender in the small SUV market and allow the XV be the crossover with performance options. Looks like it could be big enough to be exactly what you're talking about.
      Gorgenapper
      • 3 Years Ago
      The FB engines can't come fast enough, the EJ series are known for busting ringlands due to poor design.
        pemk8
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Gorgenapper
        It's more to do with the factory tune to meet emissions than the design. But it would be a lie to say that EJ engines don't have issues
          Kevlar
          • 3 Years Ago
          @pemk8
          @Gorgenapper: I'm rather confused by a few of your statements. Cast pistons for emissions purposes? How do you propose that the manufacturing process used to form the pistons has anything to do with emissions? Cast vs forged is a cost issue. A smaller piston also is not inherently STRONGER against knock (peak cylinder pressure is still peak cylinder pressure), but rather more RESISTANT to knock - the smaller combustion chamber and smaller piston face make the formation of separate flame-fronts due to hot-spots on the piston less likely. The smaller cross-sectional area also means the flame front has less distance to travel, so even IF pre-ignition happens, the flame fronts will combine sooner, reducing the magnitude of the pressure spike versus a larger combustion chamber. The FB engine (EJ successor) is less oversquare than the EJ by a good bit (FB25 is 94mm x 90mm, vs 99.5mm x 79 mm for the EJ25). The FB20 is actually -undersquare- (84mm x 90mm). It's also almost the same exact size as the EJ, so the engine bay wasn't the limiting factor (though they did have to go to asymmetrical connecting rods). The rationale behind the change is efficiency. Smaller bore = lighter reciprocating components = less losses. The smaller-bore is also better for a higher compression ratio, and the longer stroke makes for more torque and more complete combustion. Also: "opted" to turbo the 2.5L? In what context? The WRX and STI were turbocharged from the outset...
      You guy
      • 3 Years Ago
      From what I understand (based purely on rumors and teaser reports) the next gen WRX and STI will be on smaller (shortened) versions of the 2012 platform. My guess is that the WRX and STI will be a coupe and/or 3-door hatches based on the 2012 Impreza. Also likely having a tiny back seat a'la 300ZX 2+2. The delay is probably so they can work the kinks out of the new FB engines for forced induction, and work on chassis refinements. Take what you will... just my thoughts.
      protovici
      • 3 Years Ago
      Awesome..... More 4 bangers to try and pass me in my stang on the highway and me letting them pass and making me laugh and then hitting the gas and watching guess what happened and making one more run on sentence.
        ravenosa
        • 3 Years Ago
        @protovici
        May as well let 'em pass you. It's good practice for winding roads and rainy days.
        untitledfolder
        • 3 Years Ago
        @protovici
        they see me trollin'...
        Evan McMiller
        • 3 Years Ago
        @protovici
        Yeah...all I can say is you deserve whatever happens to you when you try to mess with an STi. That's all...
        • 3 Years Ago
        @protovici
        [blocked]
        breakfastburrito
        • 3 Years Ago
        @protovici
        Freeway racing, mustang and Guido... thanks for reinforcing stereotypes there bub. Bring yer 'Stang to Thunderhill raceway. After getting passed by old geezers in miatas, porsches and Bimmers, you'll lose the attitude (or buy a vette and wreck it)
      NightFlight
      • 3 Years Ago
      I might be the only one, but I REALLY don't like that idea. I was looking forward to the new and improved WRX and STI models. The current STI is overpriced for what you get, seeing as how the standard WRX is 9/10ths the performance of the STI yet the STI costs far more. The current WRX is a performance bargain, but it still can't beat a Mazdaspeed3 around a track (see 2011 C&D LL) even with AWD and the improved suspension and widened track. The MS3 also has a ridiculously reduced amount of boost whenever the steering wheel isn't pointed dead ahead, which it often isn't on track. The WRX should honestly walk all over it, but it is slower. I have driven all three on track at Summit Point, so I am not just guessing here. I also think the current Impreza has the second worst interior in the C segment, only the Caliber is worse. If I am paying ~$35,000 for the STI, I want an interior that is considered decent. The current Impreza has an interior that is worse than most B segement vehicles as far as material quality goes. I find it odd that they can't just release the new models side by side. It makes no sense to me.
        The T
        • 3 Years Ago
        @NightFlight
        You're comparing track times that differ by .3 seconds that were done a year apart? That could easily come down to driver, conditions, etc. Who knows if someone missed a shift or whatever. The WRX and STI are at the end of their life cycle. I wouldn't expect a significant investment in interior since the last generation Impreza is out of production. I would expect minor changes over the next 2 years. Since they aren't going to be hopped up Imprezas anymore, it makes sense that their development would coincide with that of the base Impreza. The rumor is that the next generation WRX and STI will be based off of the platform the BRZ is on. If that means a sharper, more focused, more sporty WRX and STI, I'm up for waiting a couple of years.
          NightFlight
          • 3 Years Ago
          @The T
          My point is that the WRX is supposed to have a significant performance advantage, yet it doesn't. The LL takes the best times from all drivers that were in the vehicle and records them. The WRX is also faster in a straight line than the STI, but the STI has 40 more horsepower. As for waiting, I am sure the next gen WRX and STI will be killer vehicles!
        Vincent Pham
        • 3 Years Ago
        @NightFlight
        Link to this C&D article please.
          NightFlight
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Vincent Pham
          @ Rusty Google is your friend. http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q4/lightning_lap_2011-feature
        • 3 Years Ago
        @NightFlight
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        Gorgenapper
        • 3 Years Ago
        @NightFlight
        Was the MS3 flashed with an Accessport? That should remove boost limits, right? Or at least, so I heard. Also, the MAJOR thing the WRX lacks compared to the STI is the 5 speed MT. You can mod or fix everything else in a fairly straightforward manner, but swapping trannies is not a trivial task.
      oRenj9
      • 3 Years Ago
      Let's hope they don't decide to go the mature route, I think it will signal the end of the car. The current ~26k sporty car segment is getting pretty competitive. With the Mustang and Genesis Coupe both putting down 300hp for about that price, it is going to be difficult to compete on performance alone. They are going to need to keep their niche as a four-door, all-weather rocket. Losing the AWD brings the car down to the level of over-priced MS3 or less hip Cooper, while dropping two of the doors will bring it into the crosshairs of the Mustang. Neither of those will end well for Subaru. The current car is pretty good though. I think a minor face-lift is all that it needs to keep it fresh for a few more years. However, I can't say I'd be disappointed if they went out with a bang and dropped a turbo H6 into the STI...
        NightFlight
        • 3 Years Ago
        @oRenj9
        How in the WORLD is the MS3 overpriced? They can be had for ~$22,000 when you negotiate. Aside from its 0-60 time, it is the best performing vehicle in its class. Name another vehicle in its class that has a nice interior, and has all of the tech features that are available on the Mazda that can perform as well as it can. Also, what in the world makes you think that the WRX and STI will lose AWD if the BASE IMPREZA didn't? That's dumb to even think that they would.
          The T
          • 3 Years Ago
          @NightFlight
          Well since the next WRX and STI aren't based on the Impreza anymore... anything could happen. I do expect them to be AWD though. I can name one vehicle in the segment that will torque steer the steering wheel out of your hand as well.
          DC
          • 3 Years Ago
          @NightFlight
          If the MS3 ditches the stupid smiley face and red bloodspray interior, I'd consider one, but for now it will be the WRX for me.
          Gorgenapper
          • 3 Years Ago
          @NightFlight
          @DC Wait for the 3rd gen MS3 that will do the Kodo design language (like the CX-5, only lowered and way more aggressive), and more than likely have all new SkyActiv tech from chassis, to engine and tranny.
          oRenj9
          • 3 Years Ago
          @NightFlight
          I didn't say that, you just can't read.
      Justin Campanale
      • 3 Years Ago
      I think that the new WRX should utilize the BRZ's platform, but add AWD. I'd like to see the WRX split from the Impreza line and become something more than a boosted Impreza.
        nardvark
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Justin Campanale
        I don't think the BRZ's platform can accomodate AWD...
          • 3 Years Ago
          @nardvark
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        XT6Wagon
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Justin Campanale
        um, no. Its designed around having the engine far lower and farther back than Subaru's AWD would allow. Even using a skyline style AWD system would require the engine to be placed higher so that the front driveshaft could go under the motor.
        pemk8
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Justin Campanale
        The BRZ's platform is already a modified Impreza platform
      Rampant
      • 3 Years Ago
      I hope a future return to the WRC is still possible.
        NightFlight
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Rampant
        That would be incredible. That makes three of us....
        McNonymous
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Rampant
        Agree!
        htay9500
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Rampant
        Make that four.
        Krishan Mistry
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Rampant
        Five. But current WRC rules seem to only allow subcompact car styles, but maybe they will change their mind or another sanction is more leniant?
          Elmo
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Krishan Mistry
          Rules say nothing about that. If that were the case, then the much larger Clubman wouldn't be allowed to run in the series.
          Bryan South
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Krishan Mistry
          The whole point of the new WRX is to get back in the WRC, hence the smaller size and 1.6 liter engine. And the fact that that's what they said.
      bonehead
      • 3 Years Ago
      That is disappointing news. Im a former 2002 WRX owner who loved that car but hated the 2008 and does not care for the new speed3. The 2011 WRX is almost exactly what i want, but i need slightly better mileage and i want a better interior, and its only moderately good looking. Im losing my subaru identity driving an economy car waiting for the next WRX (im saving on gas at least). But now i have to wait longer for the new WRX! Ugh!
        housegsx
        • 3 Years Ago
        @bonehead
        Have you driven a new Speed3? I had to get rid of my built awd Eclipse so I needed something fun to replace it. I was set on awd, but then thought I'd give the Speed3 a test drive anyways. I drove a new one at the dealer and he asked me what other cars I was interested in. I said I liked the new 2011 WRX and would have to drive one. Well he happened to have a 2011 trade-in with 6k miles. I drove the Speed3 first, then the 2011 WRX. Other than the WRX's awd(and it doesn't even have a rear LSD anymore), it offered nothing quite as good as the Speed3. Speed3 always felt in boost and has more torque. The extra gear helps a lot. It also rode and handled sharper. Straight line traction is pretty impressive for a high torque(280) fwd. And the amenities are much nicer in the Speed3, especially if you get the Tech package. If you are worried about winter driving just get some dedicated snow tires. That and the LSD will get you through most anything. The only thing I remembered from driving the WRX was a lot of tire/brake noise, and that it didn't feel better than my buddies 02 WRX, whcih isn't bad, but I was expecting more of an improvement after 9 years. After driving them both, I bought the MS3 on the spot. No regrets here.
      Drakkon
      • 3 Years Ago
      Subaru product people, listen up! Impreza: Aunt Sally's car. Slow steering, small cheap brakes, 2.5L 5 spd or auto. You choose. Turbo: 2.0 turbo engine 220-ish HP, still slow steering, still small brake, heated leather seats, sunroof, bluetooth, all that crap. 5 spd or auto if you choose. All the 'comforts' but some more power. RS: WRX without the insurance murdering engine. 180-ish HP 2.5 engine. Fast linear steering, 4-pot/2-pot Subaru brakes, stiff springs, fast steering. 5 spd and auto if you must. WRX: Same car they sell now. Basically the RS with 265HP. NO autos. STi (bring back the lower case it's only proper). Same car now. Maybe more HP. Maybe computerized torque vectoring, etc. Absolutely NOOOO autos.
        Justin Campanale
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Drakkon
        I like your idea, but I'd make a few changes Basic Impreza should have a smaller engine, like a 1.8 DI with around 150 hp. I'd rename the Turbo the Outback Sport, would have 1.6 turbo with 230 hp. Basically an A3 competitor RS would have DI 2.5 with 200 hp.
          Justin Campanale
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Justin Campanale
          RS,WRX and STI would be completely different cars, based on the RWD BRZ's platform, but AWD.
          Justin Campanale
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Justin Campanale
          The Outback Sport, WRX, and STI would all have more prenium interiors, while the base and RS would have rather Spartan interiors.
          Justin Campanale
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Justin Campanale
          The RS, WRX, and STI would be smaller, tuned much more for sporting purposes, 3 door hatch only, smaller back seat.
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