• Oct 22, 2007
Last Tuesday the Toyota Tundra was kicked off the Consumer Reports "Recommended" list for achieving below average predicted reliability scores from its own owners. It appears, however, that the Tundra's week is about to get worse. With the help of Mike Levine from Pickuptruck.com, we're following two separate stories about Tundra quality issues that have surfaced recently. The first involves the Tundra's transmission, with at least ten owners at TundraSolutions.com reporting that their trannies experience rough shifts that make the truck feel like it's riding over rumble strips. The 'rumble strip' transmission issue has been acknowledged by Toyota North America and traced back to the torque converter not disengaging properly. Owners report having their transmissions replaced with new or remanufactured ones, though Toyota told Levine that going forward the automaker would only replace the torque converter itself. Toyota did not say, however, how many trucks are affected, just that the transmission problem is not a safety or design issue.

The second quality issue sprouted up this past weekend, also on TundraSolutions.com, and involves tailgates that have been failing or, in some cases, even falling off. The most common experience seems to be the tailgate itself forming cracks and the metal buckling when under load. One owner reported that his tailgate failed when loading an ATV into the bed for the very first time. The tailgate being such an integral part of owning a truck, members of TS have begun an online petition, which they hope will force Toyota to recognize the issue and do something about it. The petition has attracted 125 signatures so far. Levine from Pickuptruck.com has also asked Toyota about these potentially failing tailgates and is waiting for a response.

Yes, the Toyota Tundra has had a very rough week, but it's no more difficult than the time Tundra owners spend with trucks that don't work as advertised.

[Source: Pickuptruck.com, TundraSolutions.com]



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      elvisgotro
      • 3 Years Ago
      Someone needs to look into the paint issues on 2008 Tundra's. The problem is a 6" to 8" oval blurry spot on the paint and is more common on the white paint. If you look into tundrasolution.com or any toyota forum you will see the complaints. I was told that they would buff out and within 3 months the spots returned.
        dhl
        • 2 Years Ago
        @elvisgotro
        I've just noticed my white 2008 Toyota Tundra Crew Max with the same paint issues, oval spots all over the truck. I spoke with dealership today and my offer from Toyota was they would pay 60% of my paint job and they are getting a quote together for me. I plan on looking into this further before I agree to anything. I was wondering what other actions you had taken or Toyota had taken to resolve the problem.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I don't have any problems with my 2004 2500hd Chevy (75000 miles). Maybe Toyota would not be getting nailed so hard if they would not be talking so much smack on there tv ads about how tuff their trucks are.
        • 7 Years Ago
        One only has to look on the web for the Toy truck that snapped in half whilst on a garage lift. That's real Toy tough right there.
        • 7 Years Ago
        My Chevy truck has 277k miles on it, the darn thing broke down a week ago (bad fuel pump) 30minutes and $100 later it runs like a champ again. Thats the problem with the domestics, they just last too long, people don't want to part with them and buy new ones.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I see the FJ isnt the only thing Toyota is screwing up on.

      http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/problems-dealer-service/33440-engine-bay-body-rips.html

      Sure is making me hesitate to buy a Toyota.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I didn't read much of that thread on FJ Cruiser problem, but there are 178 pages and 152 people reporting body rips or bulges. Toyota has some serious issues, that are going to be trickling down into there long term reliability rating in the coming years.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Toyota should stick to what they are good at.... souless transportation, small trucks, and hybrids.

      I remember reading that, at least initially, many toyota dealers would be unable to service the new tundras because of service bay size constaints. Any new news on this...?
      • 7 Years Ago
      So whadda we have? Camshafts, trannies, tailgates, bedbounce ... not good stuff.

      I wish Toyota would make a true small truck again (which they were darn good at, once). The Tacoma seems almost as big as the last gen F150 complete with poor mileage.
        • 7 Years Ago
        The HiLux is great. The Nissan B2000 wasn't half bad either.

        I think it'd be great if the true small truck made a comeback. There is a market for them. No, it won't pull construction contractors away, but it's still a decent-sized market segment.

        The key would be to make them CHEAP again. Full-sized pickups are rather expensive now.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Second that. They have the Hilux in other markets which is smaller a truck I would consider. They arrived to the Large pickup party late; a party that was already ending. Live and Learn.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Funny, you listen to the latest Toyota ad where the "bubba" sounding guy says "we didn't redesign the Tundra, we redesigned the TRUCK" and you can't help but think that we're lucky Chevy, Ford, and Dodge didn't redesign theirs the same way.

      The new Silverado is great and has had no recalls and only a few technical service bulletins, the F-150 continues to outsell everyone else, and the Dodge (minus the early transmission problems) has proven a reliable truck. Toyota's arrogance has finally caught up with them. Don't look now...but the lease residuals on Camry have fallen and recalls on Toyota's car lines are increasing.

      Maybe we should all start looking at the domestic CARS as well as the TRUCKS.
      • 7 Years Ago
      quote: Some of the temporary workers have been working at Toyota for years and put up with lower wages/benefits with the lure of being hired as a full-time associate - but very few actually convert.

      I've been a contract employee at a company (not auto manufacturing) where they dangled full-time-permanent as a carrot. Anyone in that position has to define for themselves how long they want to play that game. If it's a better gig than you can get elsewhere, you play the game. Otherwise, you leave.

      AFA the Tundra itself, so much for the truck that was going to "change everything."
      • 7 Years Ago
      ford f150 and nissan navara will continue to be my top picks for pickups, not that i need one
      • 4 Years Ago
      I have a toyota tundra 08 and when I come to a stop sometimes about 5 seconds later it feels as though somone slightly bumped me from behind ?? Also this truck sometimes when put into gear has a 3-5 second delay before actually kicking in??
      • 7 Years Ago
      So, automatic transmissions developed and made by AISIN in North Carolina are failing.

      Crankshafts made by an American company Louisville Forge & Gear Works LLC, Georgetown, Ky break up.

      Shame on you, Toyota! Built your cars from the Japanese components.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Ok, Honda builds here and outsource many parts from here. So how come they don't have as many problems?
        • 7 Years Ago
        Companies have to take responsibility for their suppliers' work. They are supposed to spec the parts and test them.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Toyota and their supporters will handle this latest revelation by ridiculing and blaming the domestic Big 3. But it's all going to be OK because IT'S TOYOTA!

      Oh what a feeling.....

      (Cue the choirs and release the doves....)
        • 7 Years Ago
        Kax

        Fox News is only one cable news network. That said, it only appears conservative because you're seeing things through the distorted world view of the left.
        • 7 Years Ago
        @ willem

        Hahaha liberal media. best comment ever. Yeah I forgot a bunch of hippies own fox news.
        • 7 Years Ago
        GM's is the worst hit when it comes from the relentless attacks from the liberal mainstream media. No matter what GM did, they were criticized. When GM featured the EV-1 electric car, they panned it and subsequently pilloried GM for discontinuing an innovative car that was simply ahead of its time. When GM offered electric vehicles and alternative biofuels, the press only ogled the latest offerings from their patron saint, Toy. Toy never weathered such withering attack, therefore they are being given the kid-glove treatment, even today. The fact that most of the press is not covering Toy's widespread problems is where the blogosphere is making up for the dearth of automotive truth. You simply cannot count on the mainstream press to take Toy to task for their crappy cars (and trucks).
        • 7 Years Ago
        @willem

        *laugh* yeah one little network. thats a good one. Do you still believe in the tooth fairy as well?

        News Corp = giant f***ing news company under Rupert Murdock. Yeah, sure, they're micro sized.
        • 7 Years Ago
        You know, I hear this in every Toyota post. I have yet to see the kind of pro-Toyota comment that domestic fans claim will happen. I might see one twerp make a "Found on Road Dead" comment, but it's pretty rare.

        What I do see, without fail, is at least a page worth of incredible chip-on-the-shoulder whining about Toyota, it's fans and the media and how unfair it is that they get a free pass.

        I don't actually see the free pass happening, but it doesn't silence the whining. It's usually GM people, too.
      • 4 Years Ago
      The quality issues that the tundra parts hits can be managed if the whole system will be done in accordance to quality control. I hope that in the near future, things will work out well for Toyota.
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