• 28
Put on your tin foil hats everyone, it's conspiracy story time. One upon a time, a Washington Post reporter took a ride in a car that gets 50 percent better fuel economy by heating gas to 350 degrees. The system improves mileage by turning gas into a vapor which leads to better combustion. The reporter almost didn't go for the test drive because he reasoned if this were true why wouldn't car companies do this now?

We have written about systems like this before. Experimental versions even appears in the Saab Biopower concept. There is a car in the X-Prize that has this technology. Heck, anyone that ever warmed up a car in the morning or used ethanol in the cold probably re-invented this. It's not a new idea. So why don't car companies use this technology? The Post says it might be safety concerns of vaporizing gasoline.

I don't know. How is vaporizing gasoline any less safe than igniting it? The Post also says there are lesser versions of this technology in cars already. Maybe this is proof that there is a vast conspiracy of oil and car companies working together to keep fuel saving technologies off the market? I guess this conspiracy story ends with the oil companies living happily ever after in profit land :D

[Source: Washington Post]


I'm reporting this comment as:

Reported comments and users are reviewed by Autoblog staff 24 hours a day, seven days a week to determine whether they violate Community Guideline. Accounts are penalized for Community Guidelines violations and serious or repeated violations can lead to account termination.


    • 1 Second Ago
  • 28 Comments
      • 6 Years Ago
      If 1 gallon of gas can pickup the Empire state bldg 1 foot off the ground when mixed properly with O2, then (that is a lot of power) why are we buying fuel by the gallon? It you think your answer is right contact Boeing Phantom Works! They have thousands of expert thermally educated engineers,most never did any work on their own, meaning working for nothing and risking their family's welfare. I'm an inventor keeping your hard earned dollars where it counts the most "your brief life". Call 1-800-707-1232 Free in North America. It's My Buck! What is your Idea! America Needs Problem Solvers!

      My email is intellingentenergysolutions@juno.com or jackphelps@phantomenergyworks.com

      Stop. Look, Feel and Listen!
      • 3 Years Ago
      The oil companies going out of their way to protect their profits and oil rights is a well documented fact, it wars are started where more people than we can count are killed on both sides as well as collateral damage what makes anyone think that they would even flinch at the idea of spreading counter-intelligence or trying to keep things from the public that would threaten these same profits. Its a no-brainer when you think about it that way.
      • 7 Years Ago
      this is a bunch of unorganized mess on this page. when feeding fuel into the system you yield five emission gasses hc+co+c02+O2+Nox by adjusting the af mixture you can lower one side lean=low hc but in turn you increase your Nox excessively Nox being gases over 1500 deg. increases the temp of everything wich wears the motor and fries o2 sensors amongst other things. so yeah you can run lean but it wont last long and you can run rich but you wont get gas mileage. 14.7 keeps hc low and Nox low and the cat will turn the rest from hc co into h20 and co2 which are more friendly. so run lean if you want but its gonna emit greenhouse gases faster which is what we are trying to avoid in the first place

      BUY YOSELF A BIKE!!!!
      • 7 Years Ago
      Sounds like a good way to crack a piston ring or worse. Cars have to last for at least around 100k miles, or people won't buy them.
      • 7 Years Ago
      We can use the heat coming out of the engine smoke to reheat the fuel pumped into the car...

      • 7 Years Ago
      Actually the reality here is that in 1995 AL Gore endorsed a law that restricted gas mixtures above a 14.7 to 1 ratio. This was to allow environmental testing equipment back in the day to analyze emission testing in all 50 states. The Federal Government figured that this ratio would allow test equipment to adequately analyze the emissions of a running automobile. Where today's technology actually is able to diagnose emission testing beyond the 30 to 1 ratio. Thus limitations exist by the law that governs vaporization of fuel mixtures to nothing above 14.7 to 1.

      The EPA-OBD II Law mandates that all Gasoline Powered Vehicles in the USA from 1996 to the Present must operate at 14.7 Parts of Air to 1
      Part of Fuel. Any change whatsoever, even if Fuel Economy is improved, and Emissions are lowered, will result in a failed Vehicle Inspection.
      Exemptions are granted for Natural Gas, Propane, and Hydrogen Powered Vehicles that are registered as Operating on Alternative Energy, but not Gasoline.
      http://www.epa.gov/EPA-AIR/1998/December/Day-22/a32570.htm

      [Federal Register: December 22, 1998 (Volume 63, Number 245)]
      [Rules and Regulations]
      [Page 70681-70697]
      From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
      [DOCID:fr22de98-18]

      That should end the discussion of why we can't get this type of fuel mileage it is our own government who is restricting our capabilities. Try contacting your local government representative and tell them we need this ACT over turned and soon.

        • 4 Years Ago
        It's only real if you buy into it. Ever hear of "Don't ask - Don't tell?
        I am working on a system (hope to run it this wk) that uses air/gas vapor pulled into the intake manifold -bypassing the computers.
        No need to store vapor, create on demand (there is a 10% increase in fuel mileage for 10 degree increase in fuel temp above ambient temp) the trade off is power (guts) so I figure to use it on the open road and skip it during city driving. Plus I don't plan to heat the fuel passed 150 F, will use a 12 volt air compressor and 10 micron bag to generate vapor. Who knows - it may work
        When I am happy with my results I will get an emissions test - just to find out if my theory is correct. I figure I can double my fuel mileage (got a 10,000 mile road trip planned with some "Road Dogs I know)
      • 7 Years Ago
      • 7 Years Ago
      I wonder if anyone has ever used a Coleman gas stove? sheesh Anyway, this has been done before. In mid 70s (78 IIRC) in San Antonio a guy actually had it working. I read the article in the San Antonio paper. He got well north of 100 mpg measured by weight of the car before and after the test drive. Problem was that to work in a standard ICE you had to create a reservoir with tightly controlled tempratures. Tough with 70s technology. Consider using this in a constant RPM engine for use in a serial hybrid though. Perfect solution. High milage, very low emissions (like NG), high energy fuel, and, for a constant RPM engine, very easy to do.

      • 7 Years Ago
      To all you brainiacs out there, hear it from the horses mouth. This is Vapsterinventor, you seem to forget that the system running on a lean fuel mixture has to also run on a restricted air flow. This is done by a chip or a manual butterfly valve.
      I only build'm and have third parties test 'em. For test results visit www.vaporfuelsystems.com
      • 7 Years Ago
      Gasoline already turns into vapor inside the engine.
      Higher injection pressure leads to greater atomization.

      If heating the fuel is good, mercedes must be screwing you with a fuel cooler.
      http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/Feb06/24MercedesCLS350CGI/100024306a682.jpg
      http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/Feb06/24MercedesCLS350CGI/100029606c1211_002.jpg
      http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/Feb06/24MercedesCLS350CGI/100032906c1211_005.jpg
      • 6 Years Ago
      What if you take a small shell tube heat exchange and utilized the heat from your radiater??? You would give the computer time to adjust air to fuel mixture when warming up. Also the computer alone should be able to adjust on the fly.
      • 7 Years Ago
      It's a question of how to heat it and how to contain the heated gas. Vapors are much more difficult to control than liquids are!
    • Load More Comments