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With the introduction of the aluminum-bodied 2015 Ford F-150 (and the likely use of aluminum in future Ford products), Ford is looking to help its dealerships reduce costs related to repairing this more labor-intensive material. Automotive News is reporting that Ford dealers with body shops will require an estimated $30,000 to $50,000 in equipment and training to work on aluminum, and to help alleviate the financial burden of the new F-150, Ford has announced a special 20-percent discount on this equipment.

Dealers will be able to save up to $10,000 on tools such as welders, air-filtration systems and rivet guns and to create aluminum-specific work stations. The new F-150 goes on sale in the fourth quarter, and dealers have until October 31 to take advantage of this deal, according to the report.


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      penrosecottage
      • 1 Year Ago
      I like the looks of it. This just might replace my 95 Ranger
      pa-boy
      • 1 Year Ago
      They could build them out of wood and still outsell GM.
      Avinash Machado
      • 1 Year Ago
      Nice gesture.
      • 1 Year Ago
      [blocked]
      groingo2
      • 1 Year Ago
      Aluminum on a vehicle that is going to have to take abuse is just plain STUPID. Steel and even plastic panels would have made a lot more sense, cheaper and easier to repair....bad move Ford. And if you think saving a cople hundred pounds is gonna help mileage, you're believing your own Bull!
        Aaron N
        • 1 Year Ago
        @groingo2
        That is about the most ignorant thing you could say.
        xxmixedxtapexx
        • 1 Year Ago
        @groingo2
        Tell that to the men and women in the armed forces driving around Humvees made out of the same aluminum
        Scooter
        • 1 Year Ago
        @groingo2
        Its not totally untrue, it just could've been said a different way. Its not a bad move but it certainly does make for interesting speculation about the future of F150 repair. Will F150 be able to overcome the automotive aluminum body's checkered past?
        eye.surgeon
        • 1 Year Ago
        @groingo2
        Aluminum on military vehicles has been common for a decade or longer. It holds up well to abuse. Plastic has nowhere near the load bearing and strength ratings of aluminum or steel, the fact that you propose it makes me wonder if you really know anything about the subject. And saving a couple hundred pounds (it's more like 600 lbs actually) has a dramatic and significant effect on fuel economy so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
        m_2012
        • 1 Year Ago
        @groingo2
        You think Ford is going to screw up their biggest money maker? I bet this went through more testing that any vehicle before it. Dont be so stupid.
        Papi L-Gee
        • 1 Year Ago
        @groingo2
        Plastic... are we bringing the original Saturns back?
      Scooter
      • 1 Year Ago
      Dealers offered discounts.... So now your more inclined to see the dealer for body work? The same guys that charge you $90 appointment fees to tell you your air filter needs to be changed. Its everything the dealer could want in a car, something that is difficult to near impossible for mom&pop shops to work on. I'm not saying its Fords fault for wanting to offer a lighter truck but it certainly gives dealers the advantage when it comes to body work. I don't know any dealer that doesn't charge maximum MSRP on work and/or parts. Sadly it may give F150 owners a much smaller pool of choices when it comes to body work.
        Jake
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Scooter
        Well, a Ford dealer has to have the capability to service and repair the thing. A private shop can choose not to, I suppose, so it is good that FoMoCo offers the dealers this little bone.
        m_2012
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Scooter
        Who changes air filters anymore? Heres an idea, don't wreck it. 20 years of driving and I couldnt even tell you what a body shop looks like, even living in a snowy climate.
        Aaron N
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Scooter
        Oh would you seriously stop being negative? Holy Jesus, dude! Finally, a manufacturers comes out with an incredibly light pickup that has lightweight body panels, and that manufacturer provides their dealers on discounts for tools in order to work with that material on their new pickups, yet you still have something negative to say about it.
          jtav2002
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Aaron N
          As aluminum becomes more mainstream the smaller shops are just going to have to invest in new equipment, or go out of business. That's just how it works. If you don't, someone else will. Sad, sure. But the auto industry can't just not make advancement because small shops may not be able to keep up with necessary equipment. I'm sure this isn't the first major advancement where some smaller shops may have found themselves in a position of not being able to compete.
          Scooter
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Aaron N
          Oh gosh, you follow me like a puppy dog. I didn't say it was bad for Ford to do something totally different. Tesla does it and I applaud them for it. I only said it puts the ball in the dealership's court when it comes to body work. From experience, a dealership was going to charge me about $1,700 to get work done on my car, and a mom&pop shop charged me about $700. Its been about 3 years since the repair and everything is perfect. Another instance where I was rear ended, and the dealer would've charged me about $1500 for bumper repair, but a Mom&pop body shop only charged me $600. So one has to conclude that repair cost will rise, and force owners to make more insurance claims. Simply put, this move is great for weight savings, but it puts dealers at an advantage for body work. Dealers which historically and currently charge much more for any service. A lot vehicle innovations are great but a lot of them can be very costly. Its the same as a carbon body on super cars, where a body repair can be insanely expensive. Your just obsessed with chasing me down in forums and calling me "negative" for thumbs up. I'm sorry buddy, I post my thoughts like anybody else here. My critical opinions are something your just going to have to get used to or ignore. Seriously, I don't chase you and thumbs down you. Lol.
          eye.surgeon
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Aaron N
          Most body repair work is done at insurance authorized rates and times. It doesn't matter if it's a big dealership or a small local repair shop, your deductible is going to be the same. So I don't really know what you are talking about. It's not likely that you will be paying the total cost out of pocket for extensive bodywork on a brand new truck.
        knowledgehurtsmyhead
        @Scooter
        Its not like Aluminum is a brand new material to the automotive world. A smart shop would see that as a niche market and move in to make money...
      Rr778
      • 1 Year Ago
      Really seems like autoblog is attempting to fabricate a story here. Cars and trucks have technologies that cost money and require new tools. Great.
        SquareFour
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Rr778
        I don't see how they're fabricating anything. Ford is offering this discount/subsidy/whatever to their dealers and Autoblog is reporting it. It may not be exactly scintillating news, but it is news nonetheless.
        xxmixedxtapexx
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Rr778
        Autoblog is calling to attention that Ford did not build this Truck to say "haha now you have to pay a lot for parts and tools." Moreso "this is the future, we're investing it and we'll prove it by subsidizing tool costs." Then again you're probably one of those people that goes and says something negative on every Ford article you find, so I don't know why I'm even responding to this.
        Rr778
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Rr778
        In new news the sky is blue
      That Guy
      • 1 Year Ago
      And this boondoggle gets even better. Now Ford is having to subsidize this crap to fix their garbage truck and its aluminum experiment.
        Oscar
        • 1 Year Ago
        @That Guy
        Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever you say Pushrod.
        m_2012
        • 1 Year Ago
        @That Guy
        The automotive sector is the ONLY form of transportation not to adopt aluminum, only because of cost. Aluminum use is not an experiment.
      SHAMAN
      • 1 Year Ago
      That FORD executive from BOEING -the one who "knows how to work with aluminum" forgot one simple FACT of life: airplanes are involved in far less fender benders than automobiles! Fixing the aluminum body elements will be horrendously COSTLY -never mind the tools necessary...
        gpfs
        • 1 Year Ago
        @SHAMAN
        Not much is fixed today anyway, its less expensive most of the time to just replace the fender or whatever.
        Greg Aryous
        • 1 Year Ago
        @SHAMAN
        You are soooooo mis-guided and un-informed
      Jai
      • 1 Year Ago
      I'm a coupe/sportscar guy but if I ever needed a truck, this would be the one I'd buy. Looks absolutely fantastic with performance and technology that it's competitors from GM and Chrysler can only dream of having.
        grn4frk
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Jai
        What technology does this truck have over Ram or GM? Besides using aluminum panels (which has nothing to do with technology), I fail to see your point. Nice truck regardless.
          Dark_Stalker
          • 1 Year Ago
          @grn4frk
          @grn4frk: Just out of curiousity dude, how exactly would aluminum panels NOT be considered technology?
          Matt
          • 1 Year Ago
          @grn4frk
          Ford has all that technology, and they still don't realize that they are missing the single most important feature a pickup can have...a mechanical locking rear diff! Can't understand why GM is the only company to offer it. Far superior traction without having to use 4WD. And don't tell me Ford's electronic diff is as good. It's not as reliable, and for some reason still can only be used in 4WD. With GM's locker, many instances do not need 4WD because of the added traction the G80 provides.
          The Wasp
          • 1 Year Ago
          @grn4frk
          Aluminum body panels are a form of technology. Not all technology has to do with electronics.
          merlot066
          • 1 Year Ago
          @grn4frk
          @Dark_Stalker "EcoBoost IMO" okay, let me stop you there. GM and Ram just redesigned their trucks, cut some weight and introduced all new engines and/or transmissions. When Ford updated the powertrains in the F150 they were worlds ahead of GM and Ram. Now GM and Ram have brought new offerings that are better and the 2015 F150 will undoubtedly be better than those. The 3.5L EcoBoost V6 was heavily modified for the F150 application and the new 2.7L EcoBoost V6 was designed from the ground up to be a truck engine. The 6.2 is also a truck-only engine. That leaves the base V6 and the 5.0, neither of which have any specific problems just because they were designed for the Mustang. SYNC is also often considered better than OnStar because it does more and is free. MyFord Touch has obviously been a sore spot but Ford modified it for Truck applications with buttons and optimized it to work well with work gloves on. It took GM like 5 years to make a better trailer step and Ford has again redesigned the step for the 2015 F150. Suspension might be the only thing that the F150 falls short on but it isn't unbearable for normal driving and does a fine job while towing. grn4frk suggested that Ford doesn't have anything to offer technology-wise over the competition when that is far from the case.
          Matt
          • 1 Year Ago
          @grn4frk
          @merlot - Sync and Onstar do not do the same things. Without your cell phone, sync is essentially useless. Onstar has a dedicated cell phone built into the vehicle and therefore will have a signal where Sync will not. And like the Onstar commercial from a few years back showed, if your cell goes flying out of the vehicle in an accident, sync no longer has the ability to call 911, whereas Onstar will connect as soon as the airbags deploy.
          Dark_Stalker
          • 1 Year Ago
          @grn4frk
          @merlot066: As a guy who has compared the products, I have to respectfully disagree. EcoBoost IMO isn't what it's cracked up to be. It proved nothing more than the fact that a turbocharged V6 could do V8 power w/ slightly better fuel economy. All of the Silverado/Sierra 1500 engines are more fuel efficient than the F-150 engines, so much so that if you compare the high end V8 Silverado/Sierras to the regular F-150 V6, it's rather sad actually. Even worse for the Ecoboost V6. The only real advantage it had was the turbocharging, which is nothing more than a pure fun factor. 2nd: Some of the engines placed in the F-150s are Mustang engines. They aren't designed specifically to do truck work, which Silverado and Sierra engines are specifically designed to do. Sync is often considered inferior to OnStar (granted this can be a personal choice, but I have not heard a single good thing about Sync, just the bad stuff, and I hear it either way with OnStar). Not to mention, a number of the things you mention are usually things the competition make better improvements upon. The trailer step for instance. Have you seen the Silverado/Sierra ones? Their design is rather unique, and quite frankly I think GM did a good job on it. I also couldn't help but notice you didn't mention suspension. What does F-150 use? I know Chevy/GMC uses Multi-leaf rear suspension in their trucks, which is really good (of course, that's if you don't have Z71 obviously). Are they using the same in the F-150s? Either way, the point being, there are a lot of advantages the trucks have over each other. Ford has some great stuff too, but I think a lot of people need to stop and look at the competition. Ram of course is going to have the Cummins advantage in their 3500 department, while GM will have the Allison transmission/Duramax advantage. Everyone has something to be proud of, and everybody needs to take a closer look every now and then.
          merlot066
          • 1 Year Ago
          @grn4frk
          @Matt How many people do not have a cell phone? And if you have it paired with Bluetooth why would it not be in your pocket or somewhere safe? If you don't pay $200 a year, then you don't have any of that basic security from OnStar. Not to mention, if you want to play hypotheticals, if you get in a bad wreck and the battery gets disconnected, OnStar and SYNC are both useless.
          Matt
          • 1 Year Ago
          @grn4frk
          @merlot - tons of people leave their cell phone in a cup holder or other area within the vehicle. Yes, many will leave it in their pocket where theoretically it will be safe. But your pocket still cannot protect it completely. It can still get damaged just like you say the battery can be disconnected. Another advantage to Onstar is the service range. There are many rural areas that have bad cell service where a normal cell phone will drop a call or not be able to make one. Because Onstar doesn't have to package the antenna in the palm of your hand, it will likely still have service in these dead zones. Sync always depends on your phone being present and it having a useable signal. Sadly, cell service is still not perfect.
          Dark_Stalker
          • 1 Year Ago
          @grn4frk
          On SYNC: I find it highly debatable as to whether or not it does more. I've seen it argued that OnStar can do a lot more than SYNC can do (ex: OnStar emergencies can dial out to EMS if you wreck WITHOUT a paired BT cellphone). As to whether or not it's free is irrelevant. Honda has free FM traffic. It doesn't offer anywhere near the amenities of its competitors, yet that in no way makes it better. Also, back on SYNC, why is it free? Last I checked, the system since its inception has been plagued with bugs. Is that a potential reason? You kinda hit the nail on the head about what I was getting at with the trucks. Yes, they exceeded Ford's limits. Everyone does that. That's part of the point of a competitive market Chevrolet has BEEN doing that since the invention of the 490 when they offered a product for the same price that didn't break wrists and offered color choices when the Model-T offered only black. Once the 2015 F-150 comes out, it will be fine and dandy, but GM and Chrysler will most likely do some things better. A better example is the Camaro vs Mustang debate. The ZL1 on inception was actually the more powerful muscle car as opposed to the Shelby Mustang (believe it or not). It wasn't until the following year that the Mustang increased the horsepower to the 650 hp range (now 662 hp). Of course, anyone who takes a close look at the cars knows the Camaros have better cornering potential as opposed to the Mustangs. Especially the Shelbys which require AT LEAST $6000 to be track ready (something the ZL1 is standard) back to trucks lol As far as EcoBoost was concerned, I still don't see the benefits of it. Especially after the initial issues that came with it (esp. when you're from Texas). And again, it also comes down to who has better technology in one regard or another. Suspension may not matter to you, but I've been in car sales before (thankfully, no longer, love my new job). It matters to A LOT of people. In trucks, it will matter in the half-ton department. As far as them now having the step, that only further proves my point. GM apparently made the better step, forcing Ford to redesign it. It's a continuous vicious cycle of competition lolz Another reason why I got out of sales.
      Jesus!
      • 1 Year Ago
      Saw the new F150 at the Houston Auto Show Saturday. I have driven 5 F150s and loved each inside and out stylewise, however, this one disappoints. I actually got time to study the vehicle(only one was sent to Texas?!?!), and what I found on this model(Lariat), was that for one, the wheels were painted, not machined or something higher class for the price we all know a Latiat commands. Also, the front just does not look right with the bars sticking into the headlights. The sides look like a Ram which I do not like on either, how it sticks out and meets the crease from the bed etc. Looks like the vehicle is sagging. The tail lights and bed area were ok and the new door handles and power sliding rear window were neat. As for the interior, it has too much blockiness and Ram infused in it. I also think the front windows come down too far, not flowing well with the what seems to be higher sitting front end. Maybe in another color the vehicle will look better, but as it stands, this is the first time in my 35 years I have not loved the F150, and thats going back to my gpas 78/79 Ranger edition I grew up with. Hopefully the aluminum body and new looks work for them, but this ex die hard is out on this generation.
      tnrunning8
      • 1 Year Ago
      Has everyone forgot that Aluminum doesn't rust like steel? Not as quickly anyway. Vehicles could last twice or three times as long, especially up north on salted roads. And aluminum body is about the smartest thing. Of coarse Ford would be pioneering it. GM will just copy it once Ford perfects it.
        CJ_313
        • 1 Year Ago
        @tnrunning8
        This new aluminum bodied truck will likely be commonplace on the roads here in Detroit in the next 20+ years, likely still looking factory fresh, whereas a 20+ year old F-150 right now is virtually non-existent here (or a rotted out hooptie).
        desta81
        • 1 Year Ago
        @tnrunning8
        Aluminum and steel and road salt make a formidable mess. Galvanic action and dissimilar metals, aluminum and steel grow together, especially up north with salted roads. If you've ever opend the hood of a newer, say 2006 and up F150 that runs on winter treated roads, you'd be quite amazed at the way the engine gets coated. Oh well, it'll have a camera so you won't have to turn your head to back up.
          Dark Gnat
          • 1 Year Ago
          @desta81
          This is correct. Aluminum is not corrosion proof at all. Anodizing helps, though.
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