Here's some fun news. Auto Express reports the next-generation Ford Focus RS could pack as much as 330 horsepower courtesy of a turbocharged 2.3-liter four-cylinder engine. That's a substantial jump over the 247 hp found in the new Focus ST. Matthias Ton, the chief program engineer for global performance cars at Ford, admits the turbo 2.0-liter in the ST is too close to its power ceiling to glean any more grunt without a substantial revision of the turbo and fuel systems. If Ford decides to build another Focus RS, Ton continues, the hotter hatch will bow with a variant of the Ecoboost 2.3-liter.

The last generation RS hit showrooms with 301 horsepower from a turbo 2.5 five-cylinder, though the special-edition RS500 shown above poured 345 horsepower to the front wheels. Auto Express reports that if Ford does build the more aggressive RS, it will likely touch down with a new mechanical limited slip differential to help keep the car pointed straight and handle regular track abuse.


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      Justin Campanale
      • 2 Years Ago
      It's just too sad that they won't make the car AWD. If there's one thing I agree with AcidTonic on it's the omission of AWD on the Focus RS.
      Hazdaz
      • 2 Years Ago
      ~240 HP is already at the limits of what a FWD car can handle, even with fancy tricks in trying to keep all that power in check. There is no way a 300+ HP Focus should exist unless it has an AWD drivetrain. Unfortunately I just don't see Ford executives signing off on another AWD Focus RS because it would probably step too much into Mustang territory in terms of both price and performance.
        The Cory Jihad
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Hazdaz
        The ST is already priced at what the 305 hp V6 Mustang is priced. They compete for two different kinds of customers.
        Matt
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Hazdaz
        My FWD car has 310hp going to the wheels (if I put in 100 octane and hit a little red button, it's ~350hp). I'll agree the limit for FWD cars is in the 300 to 400 hp range but it isn't 310 and it sure as hell isn't 240hp. If you are having trouble with 240hp, try driving with both hands that or you have a suspension/alignment problem that needs looked at pronto. With that said, a normal FWD car such as a Civic or GTI, would be bad candidates to just go throw a 300 hp motor into. But when you have a FWD car designed from the start for 300hp, it'll be fine. The last Focus RS had a mechanical diff and a RevoKnuckle suspension and people loved it. This isn't the eighties, build a FWD right and it can handle whatever you throw at it.
          Hazdaz
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Matt
          @ Matt How many cars of ANY configuration have 300 HP and are in the low $20k's? Hell I don't think I can name any. Lord knows that if a new RS came out, it wouldn't be in the low 20's.... heck the "regular" Focus can be optioned up to around $20k (and I'm not even talking about the ST version either which I believe starts about mid-20s). But mid- to high- $20k's and you have the STI for AWD cars, and the base Mustang is roughly in that same price range. Both those cars have about 300 HP. I would take either one of those cars over any FWD car trying to put down 300+ HP through the front wheels.
          Matt
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Matt
          I know I shouldn't have to put 300 hp to the wheels but find me a 4 door A/RWD sport compact that's low 20s and ill gladly buy that. Having said that, have you driven a high hp FWD car? It handles it just fine and is no where near as bad as the Internet armchair racers proclaim them to be. I also don't think equal length half shafts, mechanical lsd and solid motor mounts are trickery or just a bandaid.
          Hazdaz
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Matt
          "the limit for FWD cars is in the 300 to 400 hp range" LOL yeah, ok. Keep believing that. Engineers can limit the effects of torque steer, but they end up simply being tricks and bandaid solutions to a problem inherent in a poor design. Putting down that much power in the same wheels that turn the car is simply a dumb idea when AWD or RWD is a better alternative. No one said you CAN'T put 300+ HP through the front wheels, but you shouldn't HAVE TO. And its not that I have anything against FWD for most applications, but high horsepower situations are just not a good fit when for not that much more money/weight a modern AWD system can negate most of FWD's problems.
        Dean Hammond
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Hazdaz
        it already does exist.....and has been universally applauded.....I agree about the Mustang though. if one put everthing in an RS that has been noted here im gonna guess it will come close to 40k....and that doesnt bode well for sales.
        Gorgenapper
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Hazdaz
        Plenty of people on mazdaspeedforums.org running gen1 and gen2 MS3s with 280 ~ 350hp at the wheels. At least a couple with 500whp MS3s and one with 640 ~ 700whp on pump gas. My goal for my genpu (2010) MS3 is more modest = 300 - 330whp on the stock block and I'm good.
      GreaseMonkeySRT
      • 2 Years Ago
      Let me guess? We'll never see it in the States.
        Nowuries
        • 2 Years Ago
        @GreaseMonkeySRT
        Lets hope Ford has some wisdom and brings this stateside. I think with the popularity of the ST and other cars like the 500 Abarth, the demand is clearly there (which the auto companies didn't think was there before).
        Sgt Beavis
        • 2 Years Ago
        @GreaseMonkeySRT
        I wouldn't jump to that conclusion to quickly. Ford has brought every version of the Focus to the US except for the station wagon.
          Buckus Comments
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Sgt Beavis
          No they haven't. Try buying a 2000-2010 Focus RS in the states. Go ahead. I'll wait. The answer is you can't.
          The Cory Jihad
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Sgt Beavis
          I think he meant of the current generation. We didn't get ANY gen 2 Focuses(Focii?) here.
      ngiotta
      • 2 Years Ago
      I want AWD & 330-350hp.
      CarCrazy24
      • 2 Years Ago
      Now how about bringing it here to the U.S?
      The Wasp
      • 2 Years Ago
      Uh...am I the only one who hasn't heard of a 2.3L EcoBoost engine?! I was aware of the 1.0L, 1.6L, 2.0L, and 3.5L EcoBoost engines. Is this a new version or a typo?
        Greg Brady
        • 2 Years Ago
        @The Wasp
        think mazdaspeed 3....mzr disi was pretty much a test for the ecoboost line.
          Greg Brady
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Greg Brady
          mzr disi is the engine in the mazdaspeed 3/6. developed during the ford/mazda partnership. lots of fomoco stamps all over my car
          Drakkon
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Greg Brady
          You're not fluent in sarcasm?
          Drakkon
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Greg Brady
          Who's Mr Dizzy?
        The Wasp
        • 2 Years Ago
        @The Wasp
        Nevermind, apparently a 2.3L EcoBoost has been rumored for a while -- possibly getting into the Mustang also, as per the rumors... I'd say the 3.5L EcoBoost (350-365hp) has some room to improve if a 2.3L version is only 20-35hp below it.
          Drakkon
          • 2 Years Ago
          @The Wasp
          2.3L turbo Mustang. How many of us old enough remember salivate the letters SVO?
      oollyoumn
      • 2 Years Ago
      Interesting to hear Ford say "...the turbo 2.0-liter in the ST is too close to its power ceiling to glean any more grunt without a substantial revision of the turbo and fuel systems." since they showed of a 275hp 2l at an autoshow years ago. Also Ford claimed 177hp from a 1l just recently, so the parts should be close to available for an over 300hp 2l. Also, didn't I read 252hp for the RS? Did it get downgraded?
        Dean Hammond
        • 2 Years Ago
        @oollyoumn
        Ford may have weighed the costs of upgrading the 2.0 against that of slightly increasing displacement. Durability is of prime importance so im guessing that came into the picture as well. last thing Ford wants is the reputation of grenade like reliability like worked Evo engines and the like....theres also a 2.7 nano engine being developed ( Lincoln perhaps ) and I dont think any of them are just pure bore and stroke relatives.
        Ducman69
        • 2 Years Ago
        @oollyoumn
        Was it a 275hp version that passed all emissions testing, maintained reasonable fuel economy, and most importantly reliability without any need for individual tuning as one would expect from a mass produced factory vehicle? Or was it your typical modded engine with no cats, custom installation, expensive parts, individual dyno tuning, and questionable long term reliability....
      Avinash Machado
      • 2 Years Ago
      As usual won't be available in America.
      Tim N
      • 2 Years Ago
      If Ford brought the RS State side I would be compelled to sell damn near everything thing I own to get one.
      • 2 Years Ago
      [blocked]
        Justin Campanale
        • 2 Years Ago
        Fried_Rcie, is that you?
        Jonathan Arena
        • 2 Years Ago
        I'm downvoting you for sounding stupid.
        Nowuries
        • 2 Years Ago
        Please provide a concrete review of the previous version of the Focus RS that was negative--you won't be able to find one. Guaranteed. I may be a troll, but at least I know what I am talking about.
        cq_
        • 2 Years Ago
        I have an Evo X, and the interior in the Focus is way way nicer.... If there where a 4WD Focus with 300+ bhp, I would seriously consider it....
        Dean Hammond
        • 2 Years Ago
        Evos reliable...talk to a few owners after their regimented 10k rebuilds....moron.
        TwoBits
        • 2 Years Ago
        The Evo and Sti have been interiors? Um, what?
        Craigg Turner
        • 2 Years Ago
        could you be more transparent?
      Andre Neves
      • 2 Years Ago
      What's the point? I like the car a lot, but there's not point in upgrading the power train if you're not going to upgrade the drivetrain as well. That car with AWD would be crazy and WOULD sell. But this is Ford we're talking about. Doing such a thing would make too much sense.
        aatbloke1967
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Andre Neves
        Bear in mind that the mk1 Focus RS sold for £20K in the UK and Ford sold it at a unit loss. And that was a decade ago. In the days prior to the worldwide economic collapse, that might have been somewhat acceptable in certain circumstances, but these days it's out of the question. It's probably safe to say that a 4WD RS Focus in the States would be into $40K+ terriritory, and many posters on here would be bleating about paying that sort of money for a Focus when they could get a specced up Camaro, Challenger, etc.
          Andre Neves
          • 2 Years Ago
          @aatbloke1967
          I don't see why not? The way pricing is going on new cars, people are tending to spend more and more on cars opposed to what they used to. A full-trim Evo or STi will run you around $40k. Hell, GT500 comes in at about $60K. This is a Mustang we're talking about. A car that starts at about $20k base. So that's a $40k increase on that model. People in the U.S are willing to spend a bit more when it comes to performance. I just don't understand why these companies don't see that. Also, I don't think a Focus RS NEEDS to cost that much. For the car it is, they could price it a lot lower if they removed some commodities that people looking at that type of car wouldn't mind seeing taken away. Examples: Acura Integra Type R, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX RS, Porsche GT3 & RS, BMW BMW E36 M3 CSL Lightweight, etc And do/did any of those cars have any trouble selling? NOPE! I think if they brought over the Focus RS here...built here, gave it AWD to open it up to a wider competition & priced it at about $35-40K, it'd have no problem selling. It would be music to any true enthusiast's ears.
      Ducman69
      • 2 Years Ago
      And as a current turbocharged Focus owner, if its not affordable and its not fuel economic, why should I give two craps? The Focus ST is rumored to require premium fuel and get mediocre fuel economy (estimated 30mpg highway). Point is, if I want a balls to the wall expensive sports car, I'll buy a chassis designed from the get-go to be that, and not a Ford Focus. With the turbo, adjustable coilovers, light wheels, brake upgrade, and all the other mods, in the end it still doesn't compare to my Corvette.
        Gorgenapper
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Ducman69
        Different market, etc.
        Dean Hammond
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Ducman69
        dork...its 33 highway and it CAN run on 87.and WEVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE.
          Ducman69
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Dean Hammond
          You're slow aren't you? A vehicle designed for high octane fuel needs high octane fuel to prevent detonation. The engine sensors can minimize damage by pulling timing, but they can't anticipate the lower octane fuel as the detonation has to actually occur first before it can be responded to, and the incorrect burn rate also means more carbon buildup and the like. Only idiots would consistently run 87 octane fuel in a vehicle designed for 91/93.
          clquake
          • 2 Years Ago
          @Dean Hammond
          Running 87 in an engine designed for 91 long term will a. void warranty, b. cause internal damage, c. teach you what those little 87-93 numbers mean on the gas pumps, d. teach you to not cheap out on a performance car, e. empty out your bank account when you tell the dealer you think running 87 is fine.
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