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If you were in the market for a Porsche 911 that could play dual roles as track toy and daily driver, the GT3 always fit the bill. And it was a given that you'd find a proper manual gearbox between the seats. According to the latest report, that might not be the case in due time.

InsideLine sat down with the 911's product chief, August Achleitner, who confirmed that the next GT3 is on the way and that Porsche's motorsports division is testing both a manual and a seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox. However, only one gearbox will make it to production in 2013 and Achleitner believes the PDK will win out.

Whether that decision will be limited to Europe, while a manual option would still be offered in the States (similar to what BMW is doing with the M5) isn't clear, but Achleitner contends that putting the PDK in the GT3 is only logical, particularly given that less than one-third of 911s are fitted with a stick shift.


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      Suz
      • 2 Years Ago
      As these stickshifts slowly "die-off" (which I do not understand why) among cars like Ferrari and Lamborghinis, I always expected that Porsche would hold their ground. ESPECIALLY with the GT3. The GT3 is a driver's car-- a car that is meant to be paired with a manual gearbox. Save the automatic stuff (if you must) for the Turbo or the Carreras. This is difficult for my brain to process right now.
      jonnybimmer
      • 2 Years Ago
      Oh come on Porsche, not the GT3. If I wanted the fastest 911, then by all means give me the GT2 RS with the PDK. Not to try to tell you, the automaker, how to make one of your cars (safe to say your engineers know more about creating a car than anyone one this site ever will), but from what I've gathered over the previous models, the GT3 was always more about the spirit and feeling of what a Porsche could be and not about being the fastest. I'm not against technical innovations. By all means, keep it water-cooled and give it that 7th gear; I'm not one of those idiots that cry "It's too confusing! I might go into reverse while no-lift-shifting from 6th to 7th!" But the clutch pedal is just one of those elements that really engages the driver to the car. It's not the ability to choose our gear that's important, it's the ability to control the power and speed of the motor to the wheels. To allow that little bit of slip or that extra kick when you want it and that wonderful moment when you've really mastered heel-toeing and drive a car to the edge of it's limit. So yeah, it'd be great to offer the PDK in addition to the manual, but if you had to stick with just one, please let it be the manual.
      TangoR34
      • 2 Years Ago
      Looks like manual 'box conversion will be good money making business in the future...
      user164
      • 2 Years Ago
      2/3rds of 911 buyers choose to NOT have a manual transmission? Where's the fun in that?
        snap_understeer_ftw
        • 2 Years Ago
        @user164
        you're not considering who buys these cars new
          EJ
          • 2 Years Ago
          @snap_understeer_ftw
          snap took the words right out of my mouth....although we surf on a car board, sometimes we forget that we are not really the normal demographic of automobile buyers in many respect...
        lewazzinaroillus
        • 2 Years Ago
        @user164
        while i agree my friend,..even i, a dedicated porschephile, have to admit that we are the minority now,..as confirmed last week-end at the launch of the 991 wife and i went to,..i asked what the percentages were of manny versus pdk,...and it's sadly,...80% pdk,...20% manual,...so we are a dying breed!...
        Jonathan Arena
        • 2 Years Ago
        @user164
        Thats what Porsche is PROJECTING moving forward, currently it is still less than half...
      Cruising
      • 2 Years Ago
      I blame video games. lol
      Mike McDonald
      • 2 Years Ago
      That's a load of bs. There's no way this will ever happen as long as the GT3 exists. I don't care if they offer an automatic, but a stick shift MUST be an option! There's no point in having a GT3 with an automatic. Save the automatics for 911 Turbos!
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Mike McDonald
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          MyerShift
          • 2 Years Ago
          If it shifts itself it's automatic. Enough said.
      Carbon Fibre
      • 2 Years Ago
      Sad. There is no doubt DCT's surpass manuals, yes but heck, don't insult emotional enthusiasts here especially for the intentional sports car.
      DK570
      • 2 Years Ago
      1. When you pay that much for a car, shouldn't you be able to get exactly what you want? Offer both. 2. 100% of all previous GT3's were manuals, how many people complained? 3. Since Ferrari and Lamborghini don't offer sticks anymore, does Porsche expect all those who love manuals and have the money for a new exotic to switch to Carreras? (Maybe Turbos?)
        Jjjhhld
        • 2 Years Ago
        @DK570
        I am goin to counter 1) depending on demand and supply. If more people want it more than they can supply then Porsche can call the shots. 2) according to the article only 1/3 of the gt3 purchased have a stick shift so I would suggest that it is Porsche's interest to offer only the dual clutch as that would save them some r&d cost. 3) chances are Porsche will stop offering manuals on more models and they will have to start somewhere
      Jonathan Arena
      • 2 Years Ago
      This makes perfect sense to me - I have been saying for years now that the current GT3 is the absolute best pure sports car ever built, and that after this model it will become infinately more complex and technical. Fact is, that even with a manual gearbox, these days there has to be a whole host of other electronic aids to be competitive on the racetrack (think GTR), and since Porsche doesn't like to lose I won't be suprized if this new GT3 gives the Ferrari 458 a run for its money.
        lewazzinaroillus
        • 2 Years Ago
        @Jonathan Arena
        we have a manual 911 turbo,...won't buy a porsche without it,..it's just not the same,..test drove the new 991 at the launch at our local dealer last week-end,...and, while, yes, blisteringly fast, [had the pdk, and every bell and whistle on it]...it was ALSO incredibly dull, and numb feeling by comparo to the last carrera s we owned,...i'm jusy very "old school" 'bout these things,..thanks god porsche still caters to us remaining manual lovers,...the MAIN reason i will NEVER buy a gtr, is for that very reason,..it is an awesome acheivement by nissan,...and every bit the bargain supercar,..but without a manual to enjoy the old school way,...it just ain't on my radar,...i think lot's of sportscar buyers agree,..i'm dissapointed that porsche won't offer the manny on their gt3's,...but i admit they're going after sheer speed there, and the manuals ARE slower,...something we sacrifise for that sublime steering and handling you get with the manual, rear-wheel drive configuration of the basic 911,...that's my ONLY complaint 'bout our turbo,..due to it's awd,..it's rather numb compared to the carrera s we owned before it,..still a beast though!...
      LUSTSTANG S-197
      • 2 Years Ago
      I really don't get it. Some companies charge a premium for a manual gearbox, and Porsche may not offer one at all in its GT3 model? That's pathetic. What's the point of owning a sports car if you don't want to row your own?
      larshafner
      • 2 Years Ago
      i believe it when i see it, until then i don`t believe it! there is the new 7-speed and i can`t see why this shouldn`t find its way into the next GT3, which has always been a manual only!
      Siafa Alvin
      • 2 Years Ago
      This announcement just confirms what's been in the works for a long time: manual transmissions are basically a novelty. I completely understand Porsche's decision. That said, it wouldn't hurt them at all to make a few manual examples, and sell them as limited-edition (read: premium) models.
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