It's only a month away, ladies and gents. We're talking about the Tokyo Motor Show that's set to open at the end of November. And when it does, we've been promised that we'll finally see the production version of the coupe being co-developed by Toyota and Subaru.

The so-called "Toyobaru" will be sold under at least three different marques when it hits the market, as a Subaru, a Toyota and a Scion – the latter exclusive to the United States. But new word on the street is that the Subaru will receive the most powerful version. While Toyota has said its version will pack about 200 horsepower, Subaru indicates the BRZ (as it's been officially named) will pack "less than 300 horsepower," very likely putting it in the high-200 zone.

There are also rumors afloat of a potential convertible version. Reports indicate that the chassis was engineered from the get-go to lose its roof and accommodate a droptop, but while Toyota has refused to comment on the prospect, Subaru is reportedly considering it closely.


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      ayeco
      • 3 Years Ago
      BRZ? Brzo in Croatian means "fast". I just blew your mind, didn't I?
      walthamdan
      • 3 Years Ago
      By the time this and the Toyota one will finally be revealed, it will be due for a mid-cycle refresh
      Smooth
      • 3 Years Ago
      If you're tired of hearing or seeing about these twins, why not just avoid the articles? I have a feeling this stuff isn't on the 5 O clock news as major headline stories, just on places like AB. You see a pic of one or read a title, register it in your mind and then continue to scroll past the article to one you want to read. Why click on the post (with subject matter you're tired of hearing about) and then comment about being tired of hearing about it? That makes no sense..... I like hearing the little updates and rumors about it cause Toyota and Subaru ain't saying nothing! I think some people take car news too seriously sometimes......it's really nothing to get real upset about. Life, hopefully, is still good for you :) And this isn't really news. Seems more like a rumor.....
        bigbill
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Smooth
        Haha. You act as a shrink and further the non car focus while increasing boredom of this string. P
      drewpy
      • 3 Years Ago
      it's really bland looking...but i guess that doesn't matter if it drives like a go-cart.
      DyanRucar
      • 3 Years Ago
      Color me skeptical! Rumor has it the FA engine is capable off 300bhp...but will Subaru deliver? November 30th can't come soon enough!
      SethG
      • 3 Years Ago
      So Subaru is already a niche manufacturer. Now they're going to try to push a small RWD sports car that already doesn't really meet the expectations of the relatively few customers that enter its relatively few dealerships. On top of that they're going to offer a convertible version? How many of these do they expect to sell? Remember this is the company that killed the Legacy Wagon for low volume. Will this car sell in higher volumes?
        Hazdaz
        • 3 Years Ago
        @SethG
        Someone might want to take a look at which automaker was one of the few that was GAINING market share during this down-turn economy. You also might want to take a look at which brand has historically had some of the most loyal buyers. Subaru isn't a mass-market carmaker like Ford or Toyota, but they are also above being simply a niche manufacturer these days.
      Hazdaz
      • 3 Years Ago
      I'm sick of the rumors. Announce REAL stats on this car already.
      AP1_S2K
      • 3 Years Ago
      if you liken this car to an AE86, you'll be disappointed. If you were just think of this as the next Celica you'd be content.
        illnever tell
        • 3 Years Ago
        @AP1_S2K
        Thanks for testing the car and writing up a thought provoking comparison.
        Tolitz Rosel
        • 3 Years Ago
        @AP1_S2K
        Yeah, coz not putting it in the same level as a light-weight, sub-120 hp car which is only popular to most people here because of its cult status is "disappointing." Don't diss it till you drove it...
          Tolitz Rosel
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Tolitz Rosel
          AP1, Actually, Toyota has released very few info on the car... it's media sites like AB that do 75% of the hype, and this gets mistakenly construed as the company itself overhyping... I mean, just look at this news - it's based on rumors. Other piece of news are based on "spy shots" of the car, while others are veiled editorials that revisit old news that has already been posted. The only official announcements on the car came from what we saw in auto shows, which were 3-4 months in between. In my opinion, the only ones overhyping this car are the ones who are specifically complaining about the hype... such an amusing paradox...
          illnever tell
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Tolitz Rosel
          That should have been your first post.
          AP1_S2K
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Tolitz Rosel
          Hag, you miss the point. I'm saying they aren't managing expectations. They keep releasing tidbits about the car which has taken forever to be released, so at this point the hype has grown that it's going to be hard for them to retain their hardcore enthusiasts if it doesn't live up to expectations. If it were seen as merely as a successor to a Celica, it wouldn't come under as much scrutiny to something likened back to the AE86.
      threefortyduster
      • 3 Years Ago
      Who cares? I am so effing tired of hearing about these two cars. How about the next time you cover them, we have something real to go on? This is the most drawn out vehicle "reveal" in history. Stop telling us every little thing about it until they are actually going to make this car and sell it.
        Hazdaz
        • 3 Years Ago
        @threefortyduster
        Welcome to the 24-hour News Cycle. This car has actually NOT been out that long at all actually, but sites like AB and others report every teeny tiny little morsel of news, rumor or flat out lie just to generate click-throughs so they can make money. It used to be that a good, honest, well-researched story is what journalism was all about, now in the "blog-age" its just throw anything and everyone onto the wall and see what sticks.
        tump
        • 3 Years Ago
        @threefortyduster
        I think that award [most drawn out reveal] belongs to the current Camero.
      • 3 Years Ago
      [blocked]
      DjDNz
      • 3 Years Ago
      This story is based on pure conjecture which has made its way through the grapevines. I wouldn't give it any merit. Around 200hp certainly falls within the phrase "less than 300hp" as well.
      Lachmund
      • 3 Years Ago
      who is the designer of these ugly wings on BOTH versions?!
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