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Hyundai Genesis Coupe – Click above for high-res image gallery

"Anything you can do, I can do better" might be playing on the loudspeakers in Korea right now, as Hyundai is apparently set to introduce a bored out version of the formerly 4.6-liter Tau V8 for action in the Genesis Sedan and Equus. More interestingly, this new 5.0 may do duty in the Genesis Coupe as well. This new 5.0-liter V8 was mentioned during a media event at Hyundai R&D and if the claimed numbers are legit, this Mustang-challenger will produce a few more ponies than the Blue Oval bruiser. Where Ford is getting 412 horsepower from its five-point-oh in the 2011 Mustang, Hyundai says its 5.0-liter V8 will be packing 429 hp when it reaches production.

No official word from the South Korean automaker yet, but this new direct-injection 5.0 in sure to be fitted to the Genesis Sedan for 2011, reportedly backed by a new eight-speed automatic transmission developed by Hyundai. Chances are it will eventually find its way under the hood of the Genesis Coupe, possibly backed by a proper stick. Hyundai is apparently launching the Equus with the 4.6-liter Tau, but the new flagship sedan will get the upgraded mill soon after, right about the time the upgraded 2011 Genesis Sedan appears. The output figures being reported are 429 hp at 6,500 rpm and 376 pound-feet of torque at 5,000 rpm, with an 11.5:1 compression ratio – a healthy jump above the 385 hp, 333 ft-lb for the 4.6 liter V8 currently found in the Genesis Sedan.

If the 5.0 does show up in the Coupe, we will definitely have to revisit our comparison test subjects from last month. These arms races can start so innocently, but never end well, so don't be surprised to see Ford's 5.0 get a bump if this comes to fruition.





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      • 4 Years Ago
      "These arms races can start so innocently, AND ALWAYS END GREAT, so don't be surprised to see Ford's 5.0 get a bump if this comes to fruition."

      fix0red.
      • 4 Years Ago
      They need to work on the base model. I know it's only a 4 cylinder, but the price range it's competing in is V6s making over 300hp now. 210 doesn't cut it as a competitor to the base model mustang, which is the volume seller. They need to lower the price of the V6 model a couple grand, and put the 4 cylinder into the sub-20k range (where I thought it would end up being when they first announced it).
        • 4 Years Ago
        Where the Genesis coupe goes depends on if KIA is going to offer rear drive cars.

        Lets say KIA will offer a version of their own. 1.6t 200hp 200ft-lbs $18,000 highly stripped, 2.0T 300hp 300ft-lbs $24,000

        Then Hyundai can offer a 300hp V6 at $24, and 400hp V8 at $32 (there isn't as much room for a 'proper' exhaust, where there is plenty of room in the GenSedan/Equus)
        • 4 Years Ago
        The base model is supposed to be getting upgraded to the GDI 2.0L turbo debuting in the Sonata. That should bring the power up to 280+ hp. Still not as good as the competitor's V6s but it will probably beat them in fuel economy.
        • 4 Years Ago
        The sub-$20k pricerange will be the provence of the Tiburon/Veloster.

        As for the Genesis coupe, the V-8 is being considered for the next-gen coupe which will be going upmarket (it's main competitor will likely be the Infiniti G37).
      • 4 Years Ago
      Can someone tell me why I have to enter my email address each time I post
      instead of my PASSWORD! I have to log into my email account just to post
      my comments here on AutoBlog - All of this after I took the time to register a password.

      I contacted the staff of this site , and I've yet to receive a reply!

      Autoblog, PLEASE fix this Sh**T!

      I also uploaded a Avatar several times and it has not appeared on my profile!
        • 4 Years Ago
        Did you click on "Returning" tab just above the fields you have to enter?
        • 4 Years Ago
        The avatar thing takes a while to change, sometimes it does change pretty fast, other times it doesn't. Plus, you need to use the "Returning" tab below and enter both your email and password. I have it saved in firefox, saves a lot of time. Good luck!
        • 4 Years Ago
        Are you sure you're clicking "returning" and not "new readers" whenever you post?

        The avatar thing though. . . I tried for a year to get mine to show up and it never would. I gave it a shot again a couple weeks ago and now it works. I really have no idea what's up with that.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I dunno...seems a little light on torque...roll eyes...but hey, at least it's not a Buick eh Gruv? 'cause Buicks SUCK! (I couldn't find any reference to Buicks in his posts, so I figured I'd better get one in.)

      Any case...I like this...this is getting fun!! Who'da thunk even 5 years ago we'd be seeing these kinda HP numbers! I thought my 89 5.0 had lots in 89...and it did, then. This is just so much better. I might actually have to ban my kid from buying anything bigger than a Fiesta first time around!! LOL That or daddy's gonna have to pony up (haha) for a faster car himself! Oh how times have changed.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Are these thing selling at all though? I've seen maybe two on the road.
      • 4 Years Ago
      drifters are dreaming about a cheap V8 car, with somehow nice look and stock suspension . Hyundai makes huge improvements!
      • 4 Years Ago
      I'm still having a hard time getting over Hyundai's past quality/reliability issues. Does anyone have a newer Hyundai that hasn't had reliability or quality problems?

      Performance-wise, the Genesis is a great car. I'm just concerned with longevity, which is why I have a hard time looking at it when shopping around for new cars, and why I have always been very cautious to suggest it to others.
        • 4 Years Ago
        As if Ford didn't have reliability issues... if Ford were a league below Hyundai's, they could be one of the happier bunch out there.... Or was 2006 Taurus a quality and reliable car....?

        As for the H vs Mustang... sorry, not even close, Hyundai 24/7.
        • 4 Years Ago
        i agree with jason,

        if you go to any of the new genesis forums you'll see multiple posts on both manual and auto transmission problems with the new genesis coupe.

        the genesis coupe also uses a dual mass flywheel for the clutch and there is no after market support for this car's clutch and flywheel. Hyundai wants something like $3800 for a clutch and flywheel combo without installation.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Geo-Stewart

        I worked selling Hyundais in the late 90's. The Accent was out then. Quality was definitely an issue. We had a new Accent leave the dealership and go around the corner and have a light fall out! I remember my worst professional experience in my life was the girl who traded in her fully loaded Mazda Protege for a fully loaded Tiburon. Two weeks later she was looking longingly at her old car in the used section while the service department replaced her engine. She desperately wanted to switch back to her old car. Unfortunately there was no lemon law (I still think Ontario doesn't have one).

        Interior bits on Hyundais of the time were made of the cheapest plastic. They off gassed so much we were pretty sure you could get high off the new car smell. Even simple things like the sunglasses holder wouldn't stay closed when going over a bump even when they were new off the boat. Not one of us working there actually drove a Hyundai except the owner who wrote one off as a business cost to use as a daily driver while his Jaguar was in the garage.

        Of course the older models coming in for service at the time were nightmares. The Excells and Ponys were so bad even our dealership wouldn't take them in on trade for anything more than scrap value (considering some of these were still not paid off at the time it was horrible). Repeat business was a rare thing.

        I think the new Hyundais seem to have moved up in the world but their reputation from the past is well deserved. I can say even then the Elantra, Sonata and Accent were vastly improved over the previous models. I would take a serious look at a new Hyundai but I would avoid any older used models.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I have a 2007 Hyundai sonata with now 114,000 Miles( DRIVE 120 MILES 6 DAYS A WEEK 4 WORK) , my Sonata is still kicking it strong and hard, even the front brakes are still the original, though I have replaced the back pads at 99,000 miles. The car is like a Timex watch, it takes a lot of beating from the 120 miles drives but still run flawless, smooth, quiet( only problem is sometimes i get back in and restart it when it already started because the engine is so quiet) Hyundai is what Toyota used to be in the late 80s. Good ! Hyundai is nothing like the junk Toyota sells today either, save your money and buy a Hyundai. your save at the pump, the bank and the garage
        • 4 Years Ago
        I have an 04 Elantra and I've had no real issues with it. There was a recall for the connector harness going into the front doors from the cabin corroding, but thats been about it. she runs strong and smooth and only needs the standard maintenance done.
        • 4 Years Ago
        1) Reliability- have never had an issue with Hyundai and reliability. Have had several friends of family that have had hyundais and reliability has not been an issue. warranty was never used. anecdotal yes, but seems to be representative of journalistic reports.

        2) Quality- the new Genesis machines are very nice. Coupe is high on the list for my next car this summer. Sedan is going to be a problem for Buick and Lexus.

        Havent been in the new Sonata to speak of it but the exterior is attractive and its received good reviews. ditto Elantra TOURING. wait for the next gen Elantra sedan for the quality upgrade. not that the old Sonata or Elantra are bad, just nothing to write home about.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I saw a new Sonata on the back of a flat bed the other day... other than that I have nothing to add here.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I have complete faith in Hyundais reliability even though I have never owned one.

        I have a couple friends/neighbors with Hyundais, none of them have had an ounce of trouble.

        I have a friend who has had two Elantras, one was a 1999 that crested 200,000 miles. She now has a 2003 with over 100,000 miles

        My neighbor who is a pharmaceutical sales rep swears by Hyundais. He had one of the very first Santa Fes (a 2001 V6 with AWD) that came into this country and put over 285,000 miles on it without a single major failure. His last vehicle was an Azera that had over 210,000 miles on it when he sold it. He now has a Genesis 3.8 with 70,000 miles. Before all of those vehicles he had a mid 90's Sonata that I am pretty sure had 200,000 miles on it or close to it.

        My girlfriends 2009 Sonata has been great for 35,000 miles and makes a great road trip vehicle and gets EXCELLENT gas mileage for its size. I've gotten much higher than the EPA estimated highway mileage on a recent road trip to Asheville, hitting over 35MPG.

        You can say I trust them now.
      • 4 Years Ago
      If Hyundai thinks that they can enter the scene with a car like that , good luck to them. They are not competition to the Mustang, Camaro or Challenger no matter what they do. Over 45 years of pony cars in the US and I do not recall a Korean car being used on cruise noight in the 60's. They should aim at Subaru and Nissan and forget the comparo to American traditional iron...
        • 4 Years Ago
        @ Serge: The EVO and STi are AWD. Hence ~30% drivetrain loss, and lower MPG. So if we're talking purely drivetrains, the EVO/STi are much more efficient. Also, the STi/EVO will totally assrape those ponycars in a road course. Musclecars are fun, but they lack good driving dynamics.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I know this is about a V8 RWD coupe. I'm just saying a IRS genesis coupe, the R-spec for 22 grand, is going to be the enthusiast car. The camaro SS is going to be a midlife crisis/d-bag car.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @ Gruv

        "I'd rather have a genesis coupe than any v8 RWD gas sucking ponycar, and my first car was a 68 Charger. So. There you go."

        How ironic.... this blog is about a V8 RWD Genesis might get the "5.0 V8".... dumbest comment ever from Gruv!!!
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Serge
        I really wouldn't read too much into the EPA numbers one way or another-most of the newer cars are using a huge amount of tricks to get their official numbers up. Some of which work well in the real world but a lot of which you would be unlikely to see if you drive these cars like they're meant to be driven.
        Unless you just set the cruise control to the speed limit and sit there you're going to be very unlikely to see the highway mileage a lot of the newer cars claim-even driving with a fairly light foot on the highway you're gonna have a tough time getting those numbers even though the new EPA numbers are supposed to be easy to obtain compared to the old ones-but manufacturers have basically optimized the cars to do well on the new test.
        That said, the newer cars do certainly seem capable of getting really great mileage if you're willing to grit your teeth and sit there cruising at 60mph lol.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Gurv - keep posting your moronic comments. I've already got to vote you down 4 times in just one thread.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Oh please, I think this is good competition for the Mustang and who said Pony cars can only be American ?
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Gruv: Wow... A clear cut case of diarrhea of the keyboard. You obviously didn't check any stats and are just making s* up. The 2010 Camaro SS spanked the EVO at VIR too.
        • 4 Years Ago
        "the big three, because they've basically produced nothing worth owning for the younger generation, for the past 40 years"

        I have been reading this blog religiously for the past 4 years, and that has got to be one of the dumbest, if not the single most ignorant thing I have ever read on Autoblog.

        Congratulations.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Gruv,
        WRX STi - 18/25 mpg
        EVO - 16/22 mpg
        Stang GT - 17/26 mpg
        Camaro SS - 16/24 mpg

        Please let me know how "old american iron" is still considered to be gass-guzzling... mind you that the Stang and Camaro have over 400hp!
        • 4 Years Ago
        2gruv"
        I'd rather have a genesis coupe than any v8 RWD gas sucking ponycar, and my first car was a 68 Charger. So. There you go."

        Me to, but considering the 5.0 v8 mustang gets the same mpg as the 3.8 v6 genesis coupe, what are you talking about? your 68 charger? If you have one in good condition I'll trade you a genesis coupe.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I think this just makes it more fun. The Mustang only really has one sparing partner (Camaro) so it would be great to have another ponycar running around. However, it is a little cheap to come up with the same engine displacement for the same market. "Ours is a 5.0 too! And it'll be even better than yours!"
        This potential Korean Ponycar (that does sound a bit weird) would get the boys at M/T worked up I'm sure, but it wouldn't match either the Ford or Chevy in sales. Not that it wouldn't be a good car, I just think it'll take a lot for most ponycar/muscle car buyers to get over the "H" on the grille.
        • 4 Years Ago
        Yeah but then there are those of us that fart in the general direction of the big three, because they've basically produced nothing worth owning for the younger generation, for the past 40 years. And when WRXs and EVOs came into the scene, the big three did... nothing.

        I'd rather have a genesis coupe than any v8 RWD gas sucking ponycar, and my first car was a 68 Charger. So. There you go.
        • 4 Years Ago
        • 4 Years Ago
        Gruv,
        Just because you are very stupid:
        Laguna Seca
        Camaro SS - 1:45.7
        Evo X MR - 1:47.713

        On an auto-x setup, the Lancer will be faster that the Camaro or Stang... but as far as actual race tracks go, the pony cars got the rice-rockets covered.
        • 4 Years Ago
        @Serge
        Forgot to add that some of these "features" that let the cars get better mileage can be kinda annoying. The skip-shifting for example on the automatics can be pretty obnoxious. The new Mustang will actually do a 1st to 4th shift if you lightly hit the gas.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Hyundai is sounding more and more impressive these days.
      • 4 Years Ago
      haha Ford was so distracted trying to beat Chevy, which they never will, that this little Korean car snuck up right behind them.
      • 4 Years Ago
      I really hope Hyundai gives this the green light. I wanted to get the genesis coupe when it came out but for the 3.8 track its like 30K+ now I will admit the interior is better than a Camaro and at the time it was more agile and quicker than the Mustang (before they came out with the 5.0 and 2011 V6) but thats to steep. as long as they dont over price this car like the 370z then I will be first in line for it.
      • 4 Years Ago
      Considering what '11 Mustang 5.0's are putting down on the dyno, Ford already has Hyundai beat.. and if they aren't using direct injection on their motors yet, I'd say Ford has nothing to worry about.
        • 4 Years Ago
        I would bet money this Hyundai can beat the Mustang in a conventional race around a track.

        So yeah, Ford has some work to do. Although their Mustang is an amazing car and I'd buy it over the Hyundai as I'm not driving it on a track.
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