There is a showdown brewing in the medium-duty truck segment next year as Ford prepares to launch its all-new, in-house engineered 2016 F-650 and F-750. It finally marks the end of the Blue Diamond joint venture between Ford and Navistar and, making the two entities direct competitors instead of partners.

Ford announced the end of the joint venture in an investor report in 2011, but it didn't reveal the new F-650 and F-750 until the NTEA Work Truck Show in Indianapolis, IN, in March. Unlike the current, Mexican-built models, the new generation will be built in Avon Lake, OH, starting in mid-2015.

The challenge from Ford comes during a rough patch for Navistar. The company had a $248 million loss in the first quarter, according to The Wall Street Journal, and its medium-duty truck market share is currently down to 26 percent, from 36 percent in 2011. Building the previous-generation Fords brought in about $400 million a year to Navistar, according to the WSJ. To take on its former partner, Navistar plans to offer its International brand of medium-duty vehicles with more engine and transmission options to customers. It even struck a deal with Cummins to put its diesels in some of the models.

Ford isn't wasting time telling potential customers about its 2016 trucks. It already launched a a webpage advertising them as "Built by Ford Here in America." Orders open in October, but pricing hasn't yet been announced.

"Customers are excited about what we're doing with the new trucks," said Ford spokesperson Mike Levine. The company sees their advantage as offering the brand's reputation with trucks to the medium-duty market. They are using Ford components for the engines, transmissions and much of the interior trim, which is expected to keep costs down, according to the WSJ. The F-650 and F-750 are also available with a gasoline-fueled engine with what is expected to be a lower base price. "This is a built Ford tough product," said Levine. It doesn't look like either side is hesitating from the coming fight.


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      car-a-holic
      • 7 Months Ago
      Good job ford on sticking it to navistar. Tell them to remember that day when they said they're holding you hostage while they withheld hd motor shipments. The stuff they sent you was junk, still is. Nothing hurts as bad as a scorned lover huh... Navistar????? Good job ford! I love them new ford power mills, I see them everywhere! Now ford, just add salt!
      Kenny H
      • 7 Months Ago
      What's funny is no one saying a thing about Navistar putting a Cummins engine in the their truck to replace their own piece of crap. I absolutely loath working on their 6.0 and 6.4. Worst excuse for an engine there is!
      Mike
      • 7 Months Ago
      Will there be a Raptor version at SEMA? What will it's Transformer name be? Mega-Duty (oh, maybe not)
      Thea
      • 7 Months Ago
      what about a 4x4 version?
      Kneedragon76
      • 7 Months Ago
      Dear God - Navistar is the company that gave us the pile of crude 6.0 powerstroke and the twin trubo 6.4 POS. They destroyed Fords reputations for 7-8 years.
      Cruising
      • 7 Months Ago
      I have a weird intrest in exposed chassis and really want to drive the truck pictured above. I can't be the only one.
      Tahoe
      • 7 Months Ago
      You go Ford!
      rsholland
      • 7 Months Ago
      A major upgrade for sure, but calling it "all new" is a bit of a stretch as the cab is pretty much a carryover.
        Mike Levine
        • 7 Months Ago
        @rsholland
        We consider it an all-new F-650/F-750 because it has an all-new chassis, new Ford Power Stroke diesel engine and medium-duty Ford transmission, new front styling, and interior updates. - Mike (Disclaimer: I manage Ford Truck Communications)
          Mike Levine
          • 7 Months Ago
          @Mike Levine
          @Greg: Stay tuned for more information about the 2.7-liter EcoBoost.
          rsholland
          • 7 Months Ago
          @Mike Levine
          Mike I agree that this is an significant and long overdue improvement for the F-650/750. The styling is so much better than the outgoing model, as are the functional changes. Having said that, when a large section of the vehicle, like the cab is carried over, I don't consider it all new. Just saying... Regardless, I like the new truck a lot, and I'm sure it will prove to be a big success. I especially like the use of the Econoline headlights. They never looked quite right on the Econoline, but on the F-650/750 they look like they belong there.
          Greg Aryous
          • 7 Months Ago
          @Mike Levine
          Mike Any updates on the new 2015 aluminum F150 and 2.7 EcoBoost engine?
        Revis Goodworth
        • 7 Months Ago
        @rsholland
        This is more new than the "new" 2014 Chevrolet and GMC "Silverdodos".
      Carpinions
      • 7 Months Ago
      "Puts the current F750/F650 Cummins engine to shame..." I don't see any mention of Ford dropping the Cummins engine specifically for their own, especially if they are touting power train options. And how does their engine put the Cummins 6.7 to shame? Power specs? Not really, since the same 6.7 is used by Ram and has very comparable power figures to the PS 6.7, which is only now putting out an extra 10 torque (not exactly a massive difference).
        Cory Stansbury
        • 7 Months Ago
        @Carpinions
        The ISB is used in marine applications with factory torque offerings of 1200 foot pounds. People think the diesel truck marketplace is a battle of engines...more a battle of transmissions and drivetrains.
        Al
        • 7 Months Ago
        @Carpinions
        the PSD does, in fact, produce more horsepower and torque than the previous gen F750 with the 6.7 cummins diesel. The ones put in the F750s are far de-tuned from the ones put in rams.
      SpikedLemon
      • 7 Months Ago
      A gas-fueled version? What fuel consumption that will be. I still remember when Uhauls were available in diesels (you know: before they had too many morons putting gasoline into the diesel tanks). The last "gas" powered Uhaul I used was embarrassing.
        Cory Stansbury
        • 7 Months Ago
        @SpikedLemon
        The difference isn't as great as it used to be due to all the emissions stuff on the diesels. Factor in the initial price difference and greater cost of diesel in many states and you have a compelling argument for Gasoline power in many of these medium duty trucks. I believe they're still using the 6.8L, 3-valve V10 motor. Those are pretty respectable motors in the medium duty applications, believe it or not.
        Al
        • 7 Months Ago
        @SpikedLemon
        The v10 is quite a capable engine, believe it or not. Equipped with the proper rear end it can tow near as much as the diesel. We have a 2006 F350 dumptruck with a 4.30 rear end, and actually has a higher tow rating (about 300 lbs) than a similar year 6.0 equipped with 3:55's.
      Oglesby Thomas
      • 7 Months Ago
      Well good for Ford! I like them wanting to take control of operations, however like mentioned below, I wonder if the Cummins will make it into these trucks due to customer request.
        Mike Levine
        • 7 Months Ago
        @Oglesby Thomas
        The 6.7-liter Power Stroke V8 will be the only diesel engine available for the 2016 F-650/F-750. - Mike (Disclaimer: I manage Ford Truck Communications)
          S C
          • 7 Months Ago
          @Mike Levine
          Thank you Mike.....Here is to hoping that the "powers that be" can integrate BOSS 6.2L and leverage that motor for maximum size and torque ratings...melding the positive attributes of the 6.2L BOSS V8 and 6.8L Triton V10 into one powerplant to dominate Classes 4 through 7....
      Richard
      • 7 Months Ago
      Wow, I hadn't even known that they were in a joint venture.
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