• Jun 24, 2008
Last week, we linked to a CarDomain piece about a lunch that gang had with GM's Bob Lutz. One of their topics of conversation with the product czar was manual transmissions, and it was reported that the '09 Pontiac G8 GT would be offered with an optional Tremec 6-speed manual transmission. This was certainly welcome news, both to us and readers. Unfortunately, it turns out that this information was, in fact, too good to be true. Pontiac's Jim Hopson dropped us a note this morning to clarify. In it, he writes, "We currently have no plans to offer the Tremec on any other G8 model (including the GT mentioned in the article), although it might be an option we could consider in the future." That's a bummer, and there you have it: The only way you'll be able to get a manual in the Pontiac G8 is if you pony up for the über-caliente GXP performance variant when it arrives later this year. Jim's email, in its entirety, is pasted after the jump.


[Source: Pontiac]
Jim Hopson e-mail:
Alex,

I read with interest your recent posting regarding your discussion with Bob Lutz. You correctly noted that we are ditching the center stack gauge cluster on the 2009 G8, plus we are adding XM satellite radio as standard equipment. You'll also note that the G8 price increase Mr. Lutz mentioned is consistent with other 2009 GM models as announced yesterday.

However, there may have been some miscommunication about the availability of the six-speed Tremec manual transmission on the G8. At this time, the manual tranny will only be available as an option on the G8 GXP model that will be released very late this year. We currently have no plans to offer the Tremec on any other G8 model (including the GT mentioned in the article), although it might be an option we could consider in the future.

I apologize for any confusion that the G8 model nomenclature (GT vs GXP) may have caused, but I wanted to ensure you had the correct information. Please let me know if I can provide any additional clarification or assistance.

Jim Hopson
Manager, Pontiac Communication


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      • 6 Years Ago
      The AFM active fuel management L76 engine will not work with manual transmission.
      • 6 Years Ago
      looks like I'm not buying one
      • 6 Years Ago
      Has anyone heard what name Pontiac decided on for their upcoming 'El Camino'-type car/truck?
      • 6 Years Ago
      Ugh....why why wouldnt you offer the stick? if your going to put in the GXP then you already have everything you need to just put into the GT as well. I dont get it.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Wow this is sad news. I was glad when autoblog said that the G8 GT would get the stick, now not so much. I hate automatics. I really want the G8 ST which is coming out soon, and if they don't offer a 6 speed in it I wouldn't give it a second look. As others have said on here, the GXP is too much for some people.
      • 6 Years Ago
      If I'm not mistaken, modern automatics are just as fast as manuals and just as efficient. Since the G8 is a sedan, it will probably get used as a daily driver, so it will probably be in traffic frequently. What reason is there to have a manual in the GT? (I would think that the average driver who buys the car would rather have the convenience of an automatic than the "thrill" of driving with a stick)

      just imho
      • 6 Years Ago
      Congrats GM you just lost a potential buyer... And it's sad too, I really wanted to help a domestic automaker; but now, I'll probably go German.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Well, damn this sucks. What else can I say.
      • 6 Years Ago
      somehow this reads to me as it will have the transmission next year, but they dont want us to know so we'll keep buying the current models.

      The "future" as it reads = next year.

      /spindoctor
      • 6 Years Ago
      It probably costs them more to get the 6 spd Tremec rather than the 6 speed auto, bean counters at work
        • 6 Years Ago
        How incredibly disapointing. I was actually considering, and I'm not kidding here, going to my local dealership and putting a down payment on a Manual GT for whenever it comes in. Unless the Manual GXP is within $2K of the GT with Auto, forget it, there are other beasties I can get into that offer what I'm looking for (which is sporty + RWD + Manual + seating for 5).
        • 6 Years Ago
        Exactly! Thank you for a little economic reasoning.
      • 6 Years Ago
      to quote nelson muntz:
      " HaHa "
      http://pinkdome.com/archives/Nelson.jpg

      way to poop on another good idea.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Lutz speak with forked tongue.

      Although do you guys remember that the old Firebird was faster through the quarter with the auto than the stick?

      Call me when GM makes EVERY vehicle with truly modern 6,7, and 8 speed automatics like a world class car maker would do.
        • 6 Years Ago
        yes there are only a handful of world class automakers. America cannot afford to sit on its a** and let the world pass by when it comes to automotive tech. I was born in 1977 and the four speed auto has been around as long as I have. My dad owned a 87 Olds Cutlass Supreme with a four speed auto and the shifter on the column only showed 3 gears. The deal told me it was a desperate last min substitution by GM to try to hit the CAFE numbers that year by a tiny improvement in fuel economy for one of their best sellers. When the new CAFE rules take effect I'll be we see even higher than 8 speeds in future automatics in a desperate effort to overdrive to the max.
        • 6 Years Ago
        "...6,7, and 8 speed automatics like a world class car maker would do."

        So there are only one or two "world class automakers in the world?

        6 speed only have a marginal improvement over 4 speeds in efficiency. Why bother with 7 or 8 speeds? At that pont the number of gears is just bragging rights.
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