• May 29th 2008 at 2:58PM
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When another batch of spy photos of the upcoming Subaru Exiga surfaced yesterday, we didn't give it much thought. We pretty much know the styling direction and dimensions of Subaru's new people mover, but one portion of AutoExpress' article caught our attention. In addition to the Exiga joining a new Legacy sedan and Outback wagon in 2009, Subaru's future drivetrain plans include dropping the 3.0-liter boxer and reworking the 2.0- and 2.5-liter engines to increase efficiency and power. The naturally aspirated 2.0-liter will supposedly produce 200 hp, while the current turbocharged 2.5-liter will exceed 300 hp. While neither of which is huge news, AE also mentions that a Legacy STI is on the way with a turbo'd 3.7-liter producing close to 450 hp. Whether or not such a beast will actually come about is open to debate, but when it does, we hope that Subaru has the foresight to make it available in the U.S.

[Source: AutoExpress]

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      • 7 Years Ago
      I am ready for this car. I camped out in front of Fuji Heavy Industries Japan plant until the security guards came. I managed to lunge at the biggest guard and push him out of his golf cart. I took over and drove at full speed to the presidents office. With a bag of oreo cookies and a 2L of diet coke, I hid until Monday when the President would arrive.

      When the president arrived on Monday, I snuck up and knocked him out with chloroform. As he awoke I forced him to eat the pictures of the last 2 gens of the Impreza. "If you like it so much, then eat it".

      He didn't mind the 2007 design, but when I stuffed the 2008 down his throat he choked on it and died.

      Bad taste is bad taste.

      • 7 Years Ago

      think that the NA 2.0 liter is the engine in the RWD toyota/subaru coupe? i hope so.
      This wagon would be the ultimate sleeper since the old volvo R. Hope it has sport seats front and back. Its a pretty handsome large wagon. Maybe a sport and comfort mode when the sport increased the psi and tighten the suspension like in the Legacy Gt.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Keep the 3.0, (and add variable exhaust valve timing) push output to 255hp.

      Drop 5 speed auto, replace with 7 speed auto.
        • 7 Years Ago
        typo on 3rd gear of the 5 speed auto. 1.471
        • 7 Years Ago
        an extra 10hp while being emissions legal is a good thing.

        JATCO made/makes the 5 speed auto for the Infiniti FX & Subaru.
        So if Fuji heavy industries can take the time (say a month) to integrate the 7 speed auto in place of the current 5 speed auto, all the better.

        I did argue for a 6 speed auto for the Tribeca, but Subaru just jacked up the displacement 20%.
        I so wanted the 3.0/6 speed stick, and most especially that 35/65 center differential, like five years ago.

        5 speed auto: 3.54, 2.264, 1.417, 1, 0.834
        7 speed auto: 4.9238, 3.1938, 2.0426, 1.4118, 1, 0.8622, 0.7715

        All the better to stay on the right side of the hill
        for performance, and to stay out of SubaruVTEC for mileage.
        see 2:20, nice dot matrix pictograph

        Lets say shift points are modified by the iDrive selector, so that you can wing out the engine in 1st (sport sharp), 0-30 (stalled launch) could be done 1.5 seconds. That will snap some necks.
        • 7 Years Ago
        that is barely a tuneup on the Legacy 3.0R Limited.

        And the Legacy doesn't need 7 gears. 6 in an H-pattern and a clutch might be nice. One could argue for a 6-speed auto, maybe.

        Forester and Impreza needs a 5EAT more than Legacy needs more than the 5EAT. (EAT=electronic automatic transmission, to avoid confusion.)

        But more gears means more drag, and the engine's torque band isn't really narrow, so it doesn't require that many ratios. I had a loaner H6-5EAT '07 outback while my legacy was in for service a while back, and it is not short of gearing, and it cruises quite calmly, especially with SI-drive's I-mode.

        More gears seems to be a marketing ploy and a fashionable talking point more than truly required tech.

        And a Legacy STI needs far more guts than merely a slight tune. A turbo EJ25-series motor is capable of more power and FAR more torque than a NA 3.0R H6.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I hope this doesn't happen. It would break my heart too much not to see this come to the US.
      • 7 Years Ago
      my legacy already has 440chp (but who measures chp anyway)

      but even with a 0.5L boost in displacement i think 450hp is a pipe dream. the lag would be in the 'unacceptable' zone for a stock car.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Only if it has a single turbo. If its a 3.7TT, you'll never feel lag.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Again Subie taunts me with something I would happily hand over my S4 Avant keys for.
      • 7 Years Ago
      You just gave alot of Subienuts minor heart attacks. I'm a casual fan and I find myself Googling Legacy STI every couple of weeks to see if anythings happening. But we've been down the Legacy STI rumor road before. Usually a JDM only or nothing.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Who cares. Give me 45 mpg and performance and I'll be happy.
      • 7 Years Ago
      now thats a good news
      • 7 Years Ago
      If they bring this to the US, I will definitely buy. Been waiting for these for awhile!!! Why does the US never get any of the good stuff?
      • 7 Years Ago
      Oh. My. God.

      Please let Subaru USA bring this over here. Sleeper of the century...
      • 7 Years Ago
      How much for this new STI?... What? I could buy a Dodge Challenger for that price! :) Just had to say it!
        • 7 Years Ago
        Ya know, a Challenger station wagon would be one hell of a unique whip.
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