When society finally crumbles and the human race vanishes from the face of the Earth, the cockroaches will still be passing around certain automotive rumors. Their antennae will twitch with whispers of an independent-rear-suspension Mustang and a mid-engined Chevrolet Corvette. Now it appears that they'll have a new story to chew on. The rumor of the V10-powered Lexus GS simply refuses to die off. Autocar reports that Lexus has its eye on crafting a BMW M5 fighter, and that the vehicle will boast none other than aversion of the snarling V10 found at the heart of the Lexus LFA.

Don't get us wrong. The mere thought sends our saliva glands into overdrive, even if hopped-up GS would come packing 4.6 liters instead of 4.8 as Autocar suggests. The report claims that the reduced displacement would yield around 450 horsepower. Don't get too excited, though. All of this rumor-stoking appears to be based on the sole fact that shadowy figures inside Lexus have said that the company "would love" to build a high-performance V8. That's far from being carved in stone.


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      Ben Richards
      • 3 Years Ago
      Putting the Yamaha 5.0 V8 in there makes SO much more sense. The torque better suits a luxury sport sedan, it's significantly cheaper, provides more than enough performance, and it's more fuel efficient. As great an engine as the V-10 is, the V-8 is great too, and by comparison, much more practical. I also think that V-8 is an underrated engine in it's class, and all around.
        imag
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Ben Richards
        Yep. There is no way they would put in a low torque, huge dollar motor that won't even beat the M5.
        Xedicon
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Ben Richards
        Yamaha makes totally badass engines, unbeknownst to most people out there - still, gotta love em!
          Redline
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Xedicon
          Yes they do! *Ex R6 rider.
          Spartan
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Xedicon
          A V8 or even a TTV6 if Lexus/Toyota were to be so bold, would make more sense in the GS. It needs something to make it stand out, as it's often forgotten about in its segment. GS-F with a TTV6 would make headlines if it made good power and had decent fuel economy. As for Yamaha, I think owners of the 3rd Gen Taurus SHO with the Yamaha V8 would respectfully disagree about Yamaha's badass engines, as they're prone for going kaboom. Long live the Ecoboost V6 in the SHO today.
          Slizzo
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Xedicon
          I think all the people on this blog should know that already (looks at the Taurus SHO [original, not the abomination that curses the roads currently])
        Elmo
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Ben Richards
        The 5.0 in the IS-F isn't a Yamaha engine. It's a Yamaha engineered engine. Yamaha doesn't build the engine, Toyota does. That's like saying the LT4 in the C4 Corvette ZR-1 is a Lotus engine. Also, 414hp isn't going to do much against the M5. Unless they add a TRD supercharger and pump it up to 550-570hp. Which if you think about, is completely pointless when they already have an engine that produces 562hp.
          Slizzo
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Elmo
          The PD supercharger would increase torque, which is exactly what this car will need to combat the M5 and it's ilk. The V10 doesn't provide that torque, and for Lexus would be too high strung of a motor for one of their sedans. It's perfect for the LFA, just doesn't make sense in the GS.
      Andrew L
      • 3 Years Ago
      While it would make a VERY interesting vehicle, I just cant see it happening.
      adam1keith1980
      • 3 Years Ago
      You build it, they will come. The engineering for the engine is already done, so why not?
      wlh1923
      • 3 Years Ago
      Tjhis was one of the most awkwardly and poorly written pieces I've seen in a long time
      wildfrisco
      • 3 Years Ago
      Would LOVE to see and hear that V10 engine in a sedan, even if it was down 0.2 liters. And we wouldn't have to look at the front end of the current LFA and wonder if it's aftermarket. Do it!
        Krishan Mistry
        • 3 Years Ago
        @wildfrisco
        I think the LFA front looks better than the new GS front. Too many random pinches and puckers.
      • 3 Years Ago
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      kontroll
      • 3 Years Ago
      who cares, this car contributes absolutely nothing to the car industry. it is a desperate attempt from toyota to show off with a big primitive but underperforming engine, with a HORRIBLY UGLY design, in a market that;s dominated by Mercedes, BMW and Cadillac. Besides a few morons, nobody will buy this car, maybe even the morons will not buy it. This is a NOTHING!!!
        Elmo
        • 3 Years Ago
        @kontroll
        So instead of proving us wrong, you use childish insults? Awesome. Seems like I'm not the one who should be watching cartoons.
        TangoR34
        • 3 Years Ago
        @kontroll
        It does, you care and you know it. You are just an attention seeker
        M
        • 3 Years Ago
        @kontroll
        Funny because the markets vary between countries, and but what i know Lexus has been #1 for the luxury segment. I would agree that lexus cars are not your preference, but wouldnt go as far to say that only morons will buy this car. I have a friend who owns an IS-F and its far from horrible with good performance, luxury and better reliability than anything in the market.
          kontroll
          • 3 Years Ago
          @M
          "and but what i know Lexus has been #1 for the luxury segment."...first of all, lexus is not luxury it is ENTRY luxury segment, and that market is dominated by Buick. Where do you people get your information from Animal Planet???
        Elmo
        • 3 Years Ago
        @kontroll
        How does it contribute absolutely nothing to the auto industry? The only way I can think of is that it doesn't make a profit for Toyota. Underperforming engine? I don't know, it does pretty damn well in the LF-A. It even shows that it can perform just as good as cars that are in its price range, with less power. A market dominated by Mercedes, BMW, and Cadillac? Funny, that sounds really familiar (except the whole Cadillac part). The same thing was said about the IS-F, and yet its shown to be quite the contender in that market.
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Elmo
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          kontroll
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Elmo
          "A market dominated by Mercedes, BMW, and Cadillac? Funny, that sounds really familiar (except the whole Cadillac part). "...this sentence alone demonstrates that you should be watching cartoons rather than reading (especially commenting) about cars.
      drweaks1
      • 3 Years Ago
      who cares...my cobra KIT car with a fire breathing John kasse 427 does 0-60 in 3.9sec and cost me $50k...get lost!!!
      matt
      • 3 Years Ago
      A powerful engine isn't what makes an M car; it's the whole package. It seems to be the thing most car companies can't understand, especially lexus.
        miketim1
        • 3 Years Ago
        @matt
        especially Lexus ? Ever heard about the LFA ? That car hands down is better then every BMW ever made.
      bouljf
      • 3 Years Ago
      If Lexus is looking for an engine that can compete with the 4.0/4.4/4.6 turbo v8s from Audi (S6), BMW (550i) and Mercedes (E550) while offering more character than I say they might be on the right track. The Germans have a huge market share in this segment and differentiating themselves with a sweet sounding v10 could be Lexus’ key to steeling away some of the pie.
      Sekinu2
      • 3 Years Ago
      What idiot buys a Lexus as a sports car??? Lexus is for big Luxury like the old 400 and 430..If you buy a Lexus its for luxury not sport so whats the point???
        Elmo
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Sekinu2
        So the Lexus LF-A is a big luxury car?
          • 3 Years Ago
          @Elmo
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        miketim1
        • 3 Years Ago
        @Sekinu2
        Merc is big for luxury also... does that stop them from building AMG models ? Get a life.
      M
      • 3 Years Ago
      unlike others, Im not gonna shoot down the idea of a GS-F, because why not see what how the car can perform. Lately Lexus' engineers have shown promising results with the IS-F, LFA and new GS. In terms of driving dynamics I think its worth looking into before making these assumptions that it will be bad. C'mon people, how closed minded are you. It seems as if many aren't "car" enthusiasts, but "brand" loyalists. Its not about the brand, its about the car itself, and if it drives well then what the heck, who cares if its not bmw.
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