• Oct 12, 2009
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New "Cool Cars" regulations adopted by the California Air Resources Board (CARB) could put an end to the Jeep Wrangler soft-top sales in the Golden State thanks to standards so stringent that the popular 4x4 won't be able to meet them. According to The Detroit News, CARB's latest controversial initiative requires automakers to build cars and trucks with windows which prevent 45 by 2016. To meet these provisions, vehicle manufacturers will have to utilize advanced window glazing containing microscopic specs of reflective metal oxide.

Coating vehicle glass with a metallic layer wreaks havoc on any vehicle electronic device relying on a clear "view" of the world outside. Garmin, a leading manufacturer of GPS devices, says satellite reception through coated glass will be degraded. In addition, cell phones, wireless laptop devices, garage door openers, and even ankle bracelets for parolees "may be adversely affected by the metallic reflective standard" as they all rely on signals passing cleanly through automotive glass.

For what it's worth, Honda tried utilizing the same technology in Japan two decades ago, yet dropped it due to problems with radio wave devices. We are assured that the Jeep soft-top won't have those problems simply because the technology cannot be applied to flexible plastic windows. Without an exemption for that model, Chrysler will only be allowed to sell hardtop Wrangler vehicles in California.



[Source: The Detroit News]


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      • 5 Years Ago
      Conversely, couldn't this also keep cars colder in the winter as well? Making it more necessary to run cars for longer to warm the interiors up. Let's not forget that most cars turn on the A/C system when you turn on the defroster to remove humidity from the air to combat window fogging. They really don't think about anything outside their own state.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Heating takes considerably less energy than air conditioning. A/C needs to run a compressor that robs the engine of significant horsepower, and thus it has to work harder and burn more fuel.

        Heating, OTOH, uses the waste heat from the engine itself. In fact, turning the heater on actually helps cool the engine, making it more efficient.
        • 5 Years Ago
        I'd bet this is true, too - though I'd think the cold sheetmetal would serve to conduct heat away faster than it's trapped by the glass.

        But yes, I'd think the impact could be significant if they wanted to design "50-state" cars, but that's not California's problem, is it?
        • 5 Years Ago
        @ thunderbuck:

        "Heating, OTOH, uses the waste heat from the engine itself. In fact, turning the heater on actually helps cool the engine, making it more efficient."

        That is, if the car is actually moving. Around here in the great rust belt, a popular option is the remote-start. That is, start the car before you actually get out to the driveway, so that it's warm when you get in and the windows are already defrosted. In that case, the car gets 0 MPG, or conversely 0.2 to 0.6 gph sitting still.

        So in northern climates, it might actually *increase* CO2 production - that is, unless we want people to all plug their cars in at night. Then again, most electricity in the Rust Belt is generated by coal.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Can't we just give the land of Fruits and Nuts back to the Mexicans ? They have idiots like the witch Pelosi and "nostrilitis" Waxman in Congress and have adopted outlandish auto regulations, due to their overpopulation of the L.A. basin, that have cost the rest of the Country Billions of dollars. Let's just let "La Raza" have them back and the debt that goes along with their life style.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Keep the land, and give the fruits and nuts to the mexicans.
      • 5 Years Ago
      The rest of the county eagerly awaits the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia's succession from the Union.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Don't forget about TPMS systems. Those rely on a good signal through the glass as well.
      • 5 Years Ago
      The breadth of ignorance and pig-headed contrariness displayed on this board is astounding.
      • 5 Years Ago
      yet more reasons why california sucks
        • 5 Years Ago
        Yea kinda bummed out by this. But then what state would the ferrari California be named after?!
        • 5 Years Ago
        No, you suck. Cali is the single greatest state in the Union, it's where science lives, technology is born, and money is made.

        Americans really are dumb, instead of embracing technological progress, they whine about freedom, their bibles and their fat suvs.
      • 5 Years Ago
      Wht doesn't CARB design and manufacture their own vehicle and sell it to Californians seeing as though they know more than the EPA? I think that is about all they need to be classified a communist state now.
      • 5 Years Ago
      The last time I checked the A/C compressor was belt driven by the engine on almost every car built. If the A/C is on with the engine running there will be such an insignificant change in any kind of vehicle emission, irelevent of interior temp. I think the politicians that wrote this law caused more CO2 release in the air than the new law may improve.
      • 5 Years Ago
      i will just wear sunscreen.
      • 5 Years Ago
      must be the smoke from all the fires have clouded their eyes and fried their Brains
      • 5 Years Ago
      I thought ceramic films blocked a very significant portion of the heat, while still not interfering due to being non-metallic?
        • 5 Years Ago
        Once again, this bankrupt, dysfunctional State has to inflict their abject stupidity and environmental extremism on its citizens, and undoubted eventually the rest of the USA.

        Just amazing that this State, after decades of one party rule by the hard-left Democratic party, that can't pay its teachers, firemen, police, corrections officers, etc., still apparently has the funding for CARB to continue to inflict its hard-left enviro-political agenda on the citizens, and the sheeple continue to tolerate it.
        • 5 Years Ago
        @john - correct, but if the original article was that objective then it'd be harder to rally sensationalism against big scary california. same ol same ol, california's still the largest single car market in the country, if vw has no problems spending boat loads of money custom tailoring emissions systems on their TDis for california, surely a grand amerrkkkaan company like chrsyler can solve something as simple as this. Current windows won’t block enough? Alright? But we’re supposed to believe there’s no way chrsyler could engineer a new design which would? Seriously? I’m so tired of hearing our (American) companies whining (or our press doing it for them) whenever a new business challenge presents itself which would require ingenuity to overcome. We can rally for status quo politics all we want, but that sorta slant shouldn’t affect our understanding of the realities of business. 'oh noez, new standards, we'll need to adapt to continue to be relevent, sooo hard'. come on. what other industry gets away with that bs.
        • 5 Years Ago
        My old Subaru SVX had a windshield with a titanium oxide coating to prevent UV rays. It also prevented my GPS unit from working, so I ran a remote antenna to the rear window.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Angelo,
        Isn't the Governator Republican?

        That aside, this is a stupid rule.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Schwartzeneger is a RINO to the core, many of his top administration are liberal Democrats, and both houses of the CA legislature have been controlled by the Democratic party for decades.

        Pete Wilson was the last semi-conservative Republican governor.

        So, please don't portray Californinia's bankrupt, job-killing regulatory environment as the result of bi-partisan stupidity, the Democratic party of California, along with the people who vote for them, deserves 99% of the blame for the State's condition.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Angelo, try reading the article then thinking rather than just sucking down the nonsense hook line and sinker.

        The Wrangler is a convertible, and just like other convertibles the roof is made of some form of material not glass. Now stop and think, why would this new rule kill the Wrangler but not the other convertibles. Or perhaps this is a BS story on a slow news day to heat up those that are hard of thinking.

        I'm sorry but its desperately sad and makes me frightened for the future of this country.No wonder we cannot have a reasoned, educated discussion about serious matters when the media is so sensationalist and there's so many dimwits that suck up the nonsense so easily.
      • 5 Years Ago
      You're tune will change when Texas, with it's uber low taxes and balanced budget, has all of California's jobs in a few years. California and the Northeast are on the decline. Businesses will not stay as long as they have to pay employees so much due to a high cost of living fueled by overpopulation, excessive taxation, and over regulation.

      In case you were wondering, the unemployment rate in Texas is 8%, the one in California is 12.2%.

      Look, California is a beautiful state that has had a major, positive impact on the direction of the United States over the years. But, things won't stay that way in the direction the state is headed. The state government needs to realize they are slowly killing themselves by overspending and overtaxing. It isn't sustainable, and the bad news is that corporations based in California can relatively easily move to states with better business environments. And, the states westerners and northeasterners love to bash will be the ones benefiting.

      On the topic at hand, I am tired of California coming up with regulations of questionable value and then forcing it on the rest of us. California's representatives weren't elected by the rest of us, but, because of the importance of California's consumer market, their will is being forced on us. Quite frankly, I think California is too big.
        • 5 Years Ago
        Ignore the typo in the first sentence. Also, this was @Nick (this software blows).
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