• Jul 23, 2007
Caliberforums.com is dishing the dirt on the new Caliber SRT-4, and they don't seem too pleased. Forum member Ironside happened upon a 2008 model guide while visiting a local Dodge dealer and when he flipped through the book, he spotted the SRT specs and pics. He even photocopied the pages and posted them for proof. Many forum members seem to be let down, as the promised 300 hp is apparently not gonna happen. Here are the posted specs and a few comments:
  • 2.4L DOHC 16V Dual VVT 4-cylinder intercooled/turbocharged World Engine with 280hp @ 6000-6400rpm, 260 lb-ft torque @ 200-5600rpm.
  • 0-60mph = 6.2 seconds
  • 1/4 mile = 14.6 seconds
  • Top speed = 157mph
  • The SRT-4 will have a choice of two different 19" 5-spoke rims, the painted ones like on current SRT's, and the chrome ones.
  • Final colours that are offered are brilliant black, sunburst orange, bright silver and inferno red (So no new colours like we'd hoped for the SRT).
  • The front driver seat FOLDS FLAT.
  • NO MyGIG.
  • ***NEW INTERIOR*** Offered in what they call a "new completely dark slate grey" (huge improvement from the sound of it).
Thanks for the tip, Jim!

[Source: Caliberforums.com]

The actual numbers aren't necessarily bad, but after what we were promised, these seem a bit soft. There's also the feeling that perhaps 300 hp was more than the Caliber could handle, which doesn't endear it to would-be backyard tuners. Especially when compared to competitors like the Mazdaspeed3 and new WRX, the Caliber seems to do less with more. Even with a horsepower edge, the acceleration, in particular, seems disappointing. We'll have to wait for a full road test to see if these numbers are conservative.


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      • 7 Years Ago
      All the interior volume of these cars is in the front two seats, the rears are cramped for anyone over 12 years old, the "cargo area" could barely hold a golf bag without the rear seats folded down. Interior plastics were okay for an American car, but things like the holes in the door panels through which the lock pull-tabs protrude were sub-par. It looked like someone just drilled the plastic and never bothered to clean up the edges of the hole. Unacceptable in 2007.

      I think there is a lot of potential for a car like this, but I think they missed the mark a little bit. I don't hold it against Dodge however, I'm blaming the bean counters.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Aaron,
      You appear to be the one not understanding. There is an AWD system available for the Mitsubishi GS platform (upon which the Caliber is based) that can handle the amounts of power generated by the "World Engine" in this guise. It's called the EVO X drivetrain.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Sean- those bits are there, but they are EXPENSIVE. The AWD system they use in caliber and the Jeep variants will not hold up (for long)
        Spencer- the Raider WAS a Mitsubishi, as was the D50, not the other way around. Both were actually pretty stout.
        • 7 Years Ago
        There's now way Mitsubishi is going to let Dodge use the Evo X drivetrain, especially after Dodge shoved crap like the Raider on them. Dodge should have built a cool looking coupe.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Since the platform supports AWD, it makes me worry about Chrysler when they can't pony up the cash to beef up the AWD system for this car. AWD is a clear advantage in this segment and definitely what users want.
        • 7 Years Ago
        It's probably cheaper to build a car with 300 hp and a ton of torque steer than to build a car with 200 hp which can hit the pavement via AWD. Sad, but true. Besides, 300 hp sounds more badass in advertising than AWD does, so 16 year olds can talk their parents into buying them one.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I was thinking the same thing. Are they all like, "You know aside from the ride, interior, build quality, drivetrain, and overall appearance, these cars are great, so lets start a fan club."
      • 7 Years Ago
      Was this a ratings thing, or did it grow a muffler?

      How Chrysler was able to sell the SRT4 without a muffler, is just beyond me?

      At least is has a 6 speed manual. But are they serious with the 225 width tires. Does it have an open differential now too? (relying on traction control)
      • 7 Years Ago
      Can't wait to see the showdown between the speed3 and this....thing....for king of the budget rockets!

      MS3 FTW!
      • 7 Years Ago
      sean I get that just fine,

      but at least until now, dodge isn't delving into the upper $20k econon shartbox market like and STI or Evo. This will be bargain basement pricing and as such, FWD is the way it goes.

      Just cause a bunch of guys on the INTARWEB figure they should (who would not buy one anyways) doesn't mean it is worth the expense or effort.

      At least they are bringing back a hot small car.

      This all being the case who can say what they have up their sleeve. We all know it all now that our computers are plugged into the net.

      A final thought on strength of driveline, any of you clowns ever seen a WRX transmission grenade?

      I've seen 2. 1 was stock.
        • 7 Years Ago
        The MS3 is also not delving into the upper 20k market, and many automotive journalists prefer the Mazda to the 2007 WRX. There is no excuse for the Caliber when the Mazda is so much better and sells for about the same money.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I do not want to do 160mph in this kind of car. In some kind of 3series BMW it's OK, at least on those "cold war emergency air strips" (2.5 to 4 miles straights in the southern states of Germany).

      So you Americans can keep these cars to have fun on the Quartermile.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Then,you'd really be a crying nancy boy going 115mph in my 4-cyl minivan.
      • 7 Years Ago
      The caliber srt4 will be priced reasonably and any moron not understanding that low volume beefed up AWD drivelines cost potentially more money than they are worth need to go back to school.

      The driveline in the SRT4 was plenty stout. We have several low 11 second ones on stock longblocks, with the only drivetrain mods being a new clutch. The half shafts and transmission were plenty strong.

      As for the torque levels and RPM, I would think at or near full torque by 2500 rpms at full throttle will be what you're looking at (like the old srt4s). Mine was 234 whp and 260wtq on the stock dyno.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I'd like one in Snake Skin Green.
      • 7 Years Ago
      why the hell would the driver's seat fold flat? it's not like you can drive with your face either between your legs, stuffed in the steering wheel, or up your d**k
      • 7 Years Ago
      How is this new news? You already reported last month that the Caliber SRT-4 is only going to have 280 horsepower....

      http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/25/dodge-caliber-srt-4-finally-coming-this-fall/
        • 7 Years Ago
        Road & Track recorded the A3 2.0T hitting sixty in over seven seconds. Car & Driver and MotorWeek had it at six and a half. Considering an A3 will run you thirty grand off-the-lot, you can see a difference. I'm sure the Caliber SRT-4 will hit 60 in six seconds flat or less in order to be competitive. Yeah, it doesn't have 300 ponies--but 280 is pretty good, anyway.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Not enough difference between 280 and 300 hp to have a cow over. I'd be more concerned that a 280 hp small car doesn't do better than 0 - 60 in 6.2 seconds. A 200hp Audi A3 will more or less match that performance.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Yeah...what do they want? The front wheels to spin off the car?
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