Yep, I just love when people expect the Chinese auto industry to be on par with world leaders when they've been around for a decade, versus over a century. Give them some time gddmnit.

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I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to come up to speed very quickly. It's not as if they're inventing the automobile from scratch. They can hire from the same group engineers and designers the older car companies employ, and they should be able to leverage the acquired body of knowledge gained over the past hundred years.

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Goes to prove that the Mazda "grin" grille look gets viral...

Now it's the Chinese!

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The Grill reminds me of the new Camry tho..

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Sektor: I get the feeling you're either Chinese or a moron.

The car is ugly. Plain and simple.

It looks like they sat down for five minutes, copied and pasted from everyone else, and then left the factory.

Get over it.

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M22, I would most definitely say moron fits the bill, but we don't know if he's Chinese or not, he always dodges the question. But moron, without a doubt!

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I am not anywhere as moronic as you, Antbee. Just look at your posts, all devoid of content.

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@sektor:
just stop blindly defending chinese cars.. its a knows fact that the only thing chinese can do is copy the styling, but they cant manage to copy the safety at the same time

I wonder how you can defent chinese copying but at the same time say Mercedes E class tail lights look like sonata.. hyprocracy

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@reddy :

Your generalizations prove you don't know jack about the Chinese auto industry.
It is also a known fact that your spelling rivals that of a 4th grader. And read my comments on this thread before saying sh!t.

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surprisingly no one has yet mentioned Jaguar's headlights...

I think the body's (the side, especially) from Mitsubishi Lancer... and the front grille has a hint of Skoda.

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"I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to come up to speed very quickly. It's not as if they're inventing the automobile from scratch."

That's just plain ignorant thinking, they obviously do not have the technology that the other major automakers have so what do you expect?

100 years vs 10 years is a big f'in difference and expecting them to come up to speed that quick is just ridiculous.

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During the 90's America copy the whole system from URO even Harvard and Yale, the whole world were laughing at america.

Now, the 20's The whole world is in the exclusion of China.

Some country is became more frantic in its death-bed struggle.

overcome nervousness? overcome jealousy? "The more he tried to hide his warts, the more he revealed them."

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BigJ: "That's just plain ignorant thinking, they obviously do not have the technology that the other major automakers have so what do you expect?

100 years vs 10 years is a big f'in difference and expecting them to come up to speed that quick is just ridiculous."

Talk about fallacious arguments: It's taken 120 years for Europe to build the cars they do because they had to invent virtually every automotive technological improvement along the way. China is not building cars from scratch. These technological improvements are available to them. They should be able to utilize them.

But, of course, this is communist China we're talking about. And you see here how well manufacturers in a non-competitive environment, controlled by a totalitarian state, can design and build something.

I should dare say you are an ignoramus and a tard.

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> Talk about fallacious arguments: It's taken 120 years for Europe to build the cars they do because they had to invent virtually every automotive technological improvement along the way. China is not building cars from scratch. These technological improvements are available to them. They should be able to utilize them.

Yeah, like you can catch up to it instantly. Remember how long it took for the Japanese to make good cars? The Koreans? You can't just do it overnight, it took them decades. They are doing a pretty good job with it though, faster than the Japanese and Korean.

The Brilliance BS6 for example, had safety equivalent to cars in the late 70s, the BS4 is comparable to cars in the late 90s. That's 20 years in 2. That's pretty damn impressive if you ask me.

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BigJ:"100 years vs 10 years is a big f'in difference and expecting them to come up to speed that quick is just ridiculous.:"


Evidently you're completely unaware how many Chinese cities have grown from backward, crumbling shells to some of the most modern, tallest skylines on the face of the Earth in elss than twenty years. The Chinese rate of progress is unparallelled.

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"But, of course, this is communist China we're talking about. And you see here how well manufacturers in a non-competitive environment, controlled by a totalitarian state, can design and build something.

I should dare say you are an ignoramus and a tard."


When you think about how old established upper class capitalist marques such as Gieves & Hawkes and Fortnum & Mason have been set up in China now for over a decade, it's easy to spot the real ignoramuses are on here.

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@reddy
we all know how great indian cars are

/ubersarcasm

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@aaronz8
There is no nationality bias here.. Indian manufacturers make what they can sell in the markets there are into. At least they don't blatantly copy designs like chinese sh!t

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They actually are growing pretty quick. The cars aren't fantastic but thanks to the ready global supply of parts these cars are already way nicer than the stuff Hyundai was putting out when it tried to invade the US market.
This particular company isn't really the greatest, but even this rather low-tech car (even though it looks nice outside the platforms are still 10 years behind) is ahead of something like the 80's Excel.

And larger/better companies like SAIC are putting out some really nice stuff nowadays with the MG/Roewe vehicles. They're not the best cars in the world, but I don't think anybody can seriously dismiss something like the Roewe 550/MG 6 as being a joke.

I'd say that in another 10 years or so they'll have a serious shot at the top tier of manufacturers, and they'll have a shot at being drivable probably sooner than that. Of course since wages and prices are constantly rising in China I'm not entirely sure that their competitive advantage will actually stay that long so who knows.

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