• Nov 25, 2008
After taking a ride in the Pontiac G8 GXP and reading Jonathan's review, our adoration of the Aussie-bred sports sedan continues unabated. Nearly everyone we've talked to about the GXP says the same thing: "budget E39 M5." While the clichéd poor-man's Bimmer trope always causes our eyes to roll back into their sockets, this may be one of the few exceptions. According to Jalop's new reporter, Der Auto Inshiderfahvenberger, the GXP ran around the 'Ring in 8:30 -- a mere two seconds off the E39 M5's time.

The run was supposedly set by one of the GXP's development engineers – not a professional driver – but as always, we're wary of any development mule setting "unofficial" lap times, particularly when a roll cage is fitted, aiding in chassis rigidity. Regardless, it's hard to argue with a four-door sedan coming in under $40-large and delivering this level of performance.



[Source: Jalopnik]


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      • 6 Years Ago
      The biggest problem is going to be when GM sees the sales figures. There going to immediately contend that all this testing was for nothing, all this refinement doesn't sell cars.

      I agree with the one comment - they have the best line up. The problem is convincing the consumer. I am not sure they have done that. 99% of consumers don't read car magazines, etc. They go by past experience, brand image in their mind, and a friend's opinion. Right now, the opinion of GM is their going under and there cars still stink.

      I am a perfect example. WAS going to buy a hummer. UNTIL GM announced it was up for sale. No thanks, not interested now you idiots!
      • 6 Years Ago
      One of GM's shining stars! Such a great car on such an underutilized platform. With the way things are going, Pontiac does not have a bright future. I hope that the G8 and Solstice live on as Chevys when Pontiac dies.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Nice to see it's getting some credit!

      Hell, I thought I coined that phrase... Poor Man's Bimmer.

      Oh well...

      http://blog.carmatchpro.com/?p=32
        • 6 Years Ago
        really? a poor mans bimmer?

        im sorry man but this is more cuality for less money

        u think a logo makes the car? what a looser u r. there are some ugly motherF****rs bmw that wont work after 100,000 miles, i had 2, and to repair it cost you a kidney and you have to thank god u got 2 of those.
        • 6 Years Ago
        you are arguing the same point.

        You get more bang for the buck, that's all. If logos didn't matter in the world BMW sales would be eaten by the CTS, the iPod wouldn't be a seller, and Sony wouldn't have made it past the Walkman.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I hope Pontiac dies. I mean they made Grand ams and Sunfires. lol.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Pelosi and the gang will be thrilled!
        • 6 Years Ago
        GM exec should drive this or 2010 Camaro to congress, the Ford exec in a 2010 Mustang, and the Chrysler guy in a 2009 Challenger. Then tell them since gas is under $2.00 a gallon the muscle car wars are on. They are building real cars people want!
        • 6 Years Ago
        LOL!
        • 6 Years Ago
        I don't get it.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Ehh... The E39 M5 came 10 tears ago!! But if you still want to compare those cars you can get one of those for 15,000 now so my tip is to buy an E39 M5 instead and you will get AAAlot more for your money.....
        • 6 Years Ago
        J: I can only speak for the M5:s here in Europe and in Sweden where I live you can easily find a nice M5 with less than 7000 miles for around 17000-18000 and in Germany they're even cheaper.... while the same cars were maybe 20-21000 "earlier this year" And that difference is mostly due to the dollars recovery during the last few monts....

        Sure, the maintenance costs are higher for the M5 but then it probably wont break down as often as a Pontiac... At least I havn't had any bigger problems with my M5 which I'v had for about 2 years/2400miles... So all I'm saying is that if were looking for a car performing in the range of the E39 M5 and the GXP I would still with no doubt pick the M5 wich is HALF the price, better looking and despite being 8 years old will probably still be on the road when the GXP is crushed on the junk yard...
        • 6 Years Ago
        A lot more what? Problems? Miles on the odo? dents and dings?

        I seriously considered buying an E39 M5 earlier this year. I found that anything under about $22K was junk (high miles, obvious wear and tear) and a really good example was close to $30K. Plus it's 6 years old with no warranty and potentially scary maintenance costs.

        The person who is looking at $15,000 M5's can't afford a GXP and a serious NEW GXP customer would most likely not consider a $15,000 ratted out M5.
      • 6 Years Ago
      why is pontiac still with that stupid split grill, this is a good looking car with an ugly nose. The Aussie version is a overall good looking car. Plus i think the fact that its a pontiac is hurting it more then helping it. I don't get why they decided to re badge this as a pontiac. The first time i saw one coming the opposite direction i thought it was a early 90's grand am
        • 6 Years Ago
        and its a shame because aside from the grill the car is great. It has a great engine, pretty lines, the price is decent. I know its just a matter of opinion but i cant get over the grill.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Indeed
        • 6 Years Ago
        Check out early Pontiacs. The split nose/grill was one of their design ques long before they were known as tigers or goats.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I completely disagree.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Disagree with andy, agree with Ken. And yes, the split grill design is actually part of the Pontiac marquee since basically its inception.

        I personally like it, myself.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I might be crazy, but I LIKE the Pontiac grille. I like it better than the Holden grille, which looks bland to me, and I think it suits this car particularly well.
      • 6 Years Ago

      Maybe if it was badged as an Impala or Caprice it would enjoy more sales.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I really like how this car is shaping up.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I really like how GM's performance car lineup is shaping up, so much bang for the buck and without (apparently) the poor quality that once troubled them.
      • 6 Years Ago
      If I recall, sales of the G8 haven't been stellar. It is too bad GM imports a good car and it doesn't sell that well.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Pretty sure it has something to do with sky high gas price. Price did come down, but when G8 came out, the gas was d@mn expensive.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Don't know if its tires or suspension, but the lateral grip of this car in every test has been pretty average for a sports sedan (low-mid .8g). I imagine this is an important factor on the track.

      Aside from that, the other numbers seem stellar enough (acceleration, braking).
      • 6 Years Ago
      Damn, too bad I bought my 3series. I like this car (well, maybe not the hood scoops).

      I think people are/will underestimate this thing.

      The problem with pontiac is residual value, that keeps a lot away (sadly).

      I'd be interested to drive one, see the handling, ride quality, ride noise, etc. I know everyone gets wet over ring times, but in the end, we have to drive them day to day.
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