• Oct 13, 2008
Photo of stock tires used on the GT-R that tackled the 'Ring in 7:29

Nissan released a second video of the incredible 7:29 lap time achieved by the GT-R earlier this year at the Nürburgring Nordschleife along with a photo of the stock tires that were installed on the car at the time. It did so to dispel accusations that the time might not be 100% authentic. Porsche in particular seemed highly suspicious, and boldly claimed its belief that Nissan wasn't using stock tires at the time. The new video starts with some off-track buildup and shows the 50kg of test equipment that was on-board the car at the time, as well. Although we don't speak Japanese, we think that's what they're talking about along with discussing the fresh stock tires that were fitted to the car. The actual lap starts about 4 minutes in and looks pretty authentic to us. We're sure there will continue to be questions and complaints from all sides in this controversy, and we know that this is starting to turn into a a bit of a melodrama, but we really can't help ourselves. You can catch up on the whole sordid affair by clicking here and check out the video after the jump.

[Source: GTR Blog via Edmunds]



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      • 6 Years Ago
      this is just getting stupid.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Not really sure why Porsche cares so much, after all Porsche dealers openly encourage you to buy used or CPO and take your car out to trackdays. This isn't conjecture, but word from several Porsche dealer's mouths.

      We all know that Nissan is not honoring warranty claims, and is making all kinds of silly noise about don't do this, don't do that with the GTR. Whereas Porsche builds models expressly for being beaten up on the track. I mean who else is offering roll cages and single-piece carbon buckets in most markets(aside from Ferrari)?

      As awesome as the GTR is, why can't these titans of ego calm the F down and start talking up the experience of Porsche ownership? Its not like people are so stupid that they will run in droves from the Stuttgart brand just over a few seconds lap time difference. If anything they are more likely to jump ship to Audi for the sublime R8.

      Hell I was at a Nissan dealer this weekend where the sales guys were all talking about someone who the day before actually returned his GTR. The buzz was that it beat him up too much or something.
      • 6 Years Ago
      just dont drive it like its a sports car. You'll void the warranty. Damn granny-mobile.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Its ok, the 50 kg of testing equipment makes up for how skinny the driver probably was.
        • 6 Years Ago
        As reported by the other car magazines...

        out of 4 cars... 2 where significantly FASTER than the other 2. Up in boost?

        There are TOO many variables.. Same thing.. Why didn't they post the RPM and speed??? it would have been interesting to see this...
      • 6 Years Ago
      As a neutral in the GT-R vs The World debate, I only ask why it is taken for granted by many that Nissan did not tweak the engine management on this particular R35 for the Ring run? Nissan could easily have upped the turbo boost or richened the fuel mixture, gaining possibly 50-100 more HP, in order to pull off the lap and earn the R35 it's desired reputation of "giant-killer." Just the mere possibility this could have occurred seems to be reason enough for skeptics to still have a hard time believing a 3800+ lb car with about 590 Nm of torque could have bested or come very close to laps by cars with engines of very similar outputs and 500 to 700 lbs less weight? (I'm speaking about 911 GT2, Enzo, Carrera GT.) Or perhaps the Nissan engineers really did set the lap with a bone-stock car. Without an independent dyno run directly following, I think any claim supporting or debunking the lap is all just academic hearsay, or uninformed fanboysim.

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        • 6 Years Ago
        That's not true. Almost every time time it has done so it has been faster, but last time someone made the same assertion as you, there was evidence to the contrary posted in response.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Because in every single time a GT-R has lapped the same track as a 911 Turbo and Z06, the two cars it's most often compared with, it's been faster. And on this longer track, it's about as much faster as you'd expect based on it's performance on every other track in a multitude of different Nissan press cars or random customer cars.
      • 6 Years Ago
      This could easily be put to rest. Have a Nissan driver drive Porsche's GT-R, or get one straight off the lot and test it again.

      I don't see why Porsche should worry. THere are now plenty of cars that go faster around a track than theirs for less money. Porsche fans don't seem to care, they love the "soul" of the Porsche...overall handling fun. The GT-R and 911T handle very differently. Different character.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Porsche needs to put this to rest and build a faster 911.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Porsche has build 6:11min Ring cars in 1983... they still hold the all time northloop lap record.. they know one or two things about what is possible and what is not possible at the Ring.
        • 6 Years Ago
        took the words right outta my mouth.

        Porsche: stop bitching and get to making better, faster, smarter engines. sheesh.
      • 6 Years Ago
      The tires they use on the GT-R are superb and are rated at 60 UTQG rating I think. corvette and Viper and Porsche, if on the same tires, would do much better also.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Actually, no.

        Bridgestones: UTQG 140
        Dunlops: UTQG 220

        The Dunlops have the same treadwear rating as the Goodyears Eagle F1s on the Corvette Z06 and the Michelin PS2s on the regular 911TT.
      • 6 Years Ago
      It DOESN'T matter because in just a few months or maybe a year or two, another car will smoke both the GT-R and the 911.
        • 6 Years Ago
        It's called the Dodge Viper ACR.
      • 6 Years Ago
      An idea (granted one I borrowed from the source's own comments section). How about Nissan goes down to Porsche, throw the Nissan driver in Porsche's GTR and put in some laps. I figure anything within a couple seconds (assuming fairly similar conditions), is proof that Nissan pulled it off with an unmodified car. Also shuts up Porsche once and for all. If they don't make it, well we know something was up.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Hey I can go take some pics of tires too. This is just ridiculous. Put them on the Ring together and let them duke it out.
      • 6 Years Ago
      YAWN......

      SNORE!!!!!

      Anything interesting going on?

      YAWN.....
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