• Mar 20th 2008 at 7:32PM
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Photo by Bruce Benedict

The arrival of the Nissan GT-R has not only clogged up the automotive news headlines, it has sparked the creative juices of many journalists. Every publication is scrambling to concoct a unique comparison test for the new Godzilla. In the past, typical comparisons consisted of nonsensical number ratings calculated through a formula that only had meaning to folks offering their opinion based off their butt cheeks. Now the objective seems to have shifted towards streamlining variables and logging repeatable data for direct overlay between vehicles. First Inside Line brought us unbiased measurements of power output, now Road and Track gives us measurements of time. They did not quite eliminate the use of their own point scale to add up the results of various tests, but at least they provided the actual time results, as well.

The crew from R&T recently transported a U.S. market version of the 2009 Nissan GT-R, a 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo and a 2008 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 to Buttonwillow Raceway in California for a little fun. Don't worry about inconsistent journalist drivers either, as they also brought veteran 12 Hours of Sebring race winner Steve Millen along to be the pilot. Their plan saw each car take a few laps of race configuration 13, which has quickly become the circuit of choice for various media outlets. The typical 0-60 mph, 1/4 mile, skidpad, slalom and braking tests were also performed, but proved to be ill-equipped in distinguishing the competitors. The lap times really told the story with the Porsche clocking in at 2:02.1, the Z06 right on its tail at 2:02.2 and the GT-R well ahead at 1:56.9. Thanks for the tip Chuck!

[Source: Road and Track]

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      • 7 Years Ago
      Disregarding the GT-R, the Turbo and Z06 comparo is pretty impressive considering the next higher model (ZR1) of the Corvette is still less inexpensive.

      Given the Turbo's MSRP and the GT-R's markup above MSRP, the ZR1 would be a more accurate comparison, but that's not too possible right now I guess.
        • 7 Years Ago
        The ZR1 will also have markups.. probably some pretty big ones since it will be a limited production.
        • 7 Years Ago
        "less inexpensive"

        • 7 Years Ago
        very true. only time will tell how much extra
      • 7 Years Ago
      The reason I called the new GTR the new King is simple. Before it was built, the only car that could call itself a Supercar and destroy cars that cost a crap load more was the Z06. I respected the Z06 greatly because of this, and still do. Now, here comes a company called Nissan, which almost went bankrupt a few years back and to so many in the automotive worlds seems like an underdog in so many ways. They build a "Supercar" at an extraordinary price. The same way the Z06 killed cars that cost much more, the new GTR kills current cars that cost much more, including the well-respected Z06. For this reason, I call the GTR the new King. When the ZR1 comes out, maybe it will be the new king, but we have to see what the V-Spec does first. Btw, I am a big Vette fan, but just the same way I granted the Z06 king a few years back, I now grant the GTR king today. As for the 911 Turbo, it may be for some, but I would buy the either the Z06 or the GTR in a heartbeat before I spend another 40-50k on a 911 turbo. Then again, this is just me.
      • 7 Years Ago
      RJ, you sound less like "a huge Nissan fan with each paragraph. Why do people get off so by pretending to be for a car, political candidate or whatever - then trashing them.

      RJ wants me to believe he's a HUGE Nissan fan, then tries to explain why the fastest car Nissan has ever built is not "all that."

      Grow up.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Where are the fanboys? Yoohoo....
      • 7 Years Ago
      If the GTR can be bought at MSRP, then it's a smoking deal. I'd take it over a Vette/911 any day.

      However, at the $130k some dealers are charging, I don't care if it can defy relativity and do a lap in -:30s, I'm not buying it.

      I wonder how a car with equally sticky tires - the Viper ACR, might compare to the GTR.
        • 7 Years Ago
        The ACR would probably demolish it. Even the standard viper beats the GT-R on the skid pad. (Probably because it has 355 tires in the back)

        The ACR has 600 HP, so it would be an interesting (if not ludicrous) comparison. Maybe the ACR vs. the soon to come GT-R V-spec would be more ideal/fair, as it would be a comparo of 2 lightened road cars optimized for the track.

      • 7 Years Ago
      About 400 bucks into the Corvette Might change the situation.
        • 7 Years Ago
        'Bout time someone brought up the aftermarket sector, even though it's no suprise that a Chevy will have a vastly superior parts bin than any import.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Oh boy. My plan is working. Sitting on my ass and waiting for the news of GTR onslaught.

      First came the aesthetic, then slicks, then the dyno, and now the weight.

      Don't worry boys, soon my pretty GTR will be mine (couple of years when the dealer mark up goes down =] ).

      Why does weight have to do anything when it beat the Atom?

      Why does Steve Millen have to be bias? Can the GT2 and the vette beat the Atom? If they can't beat Atom time then why should GTR lap time matter?

      • 7 Years Ago
      Not that it matters but you Corvette and Porsche fanboys knew you had it coming when Nissan developed the GT-R. You knew that it was going to give the competition a serious challenge, but yet you chose to argue pointless facts and stir up more controversy about this vs the stupid Iraq war or the US president. As much as most fanboys hate to admit Nissan does not mess around when it comes to being competitive.
      Well now that the US spec'd GT-R is here and the numbers are out now maybe you can swallow your shameless prides and go back to real life, weather that is spending 8 hrs in your moms basement playing Everquest or avoiding your boss from firing you by wasting useless time being on the internet instead of doing your job.

        • 7 Years Ago
        Dude, what does the Iraq war have to do with the fact that the GT-R gets around Buttonwillow faster than a Z06 or a 911 Turbo?
        • 7 Years Ago
        I'd like to say that I'm a HUGE Nissan fan. I'm the kinda guy that would always pray for an M45 to beat a 550i in a comparison test.

        But, your childish rejoycing over a comparison article is making you look worse than Vette fanboys. What would you be typing if the GTR lost by 3 seconds? What would you say if they put better tires on the Vette, and took it to a more power demanding track like Road America? Are you going to hide under the covers?

        Guys, let's grow up here. The GTR is a great car with great potential, no need to start the baby trashtalk and calling others "fanboys" - it makes you look worse than one.
      • 7 Years Ago
      While , I'm definitely not a GT-R fanboys, I'll let you guys be happy in lighter, slower track cars. What the hell does light have to do with the equation if it kicks other cars asses all over that track. Not by small margins. How did they do it?! Really who cares it works with they do give you an even lighter GT-R, you can cry some more when they extend their lead. I dont get you guys some times. The same people arguing that the car is too big were the same people screaming blood murder when the Porsche fanboys said the Z06 is a less sophisticated and harder car to drive, even though it beat the 911 turbo in test after test. Tables have turned and the GT-R isnt good enough, because it weighs more, nevermind that just shamed so called world class supercars.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Great post. Who cares what it weighs if it can do the job it was built for. The car was meant to be a daily, all-season driver as well as a track car, throw in a bunch of gadgets, back seats, computers and an AWD system, and of course it will add weight. I surely don't mind the weight, especially if I can demolish most cars that cost twice it's price. BTW, I am a big Corvette fan, but the ZO6 is simply outclassed by the GTR and that is the truth. When the ZR1 and the
        V-Spec arrive then that will be round 2, but for now the GTR is King.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Everyone was screaming for a US spec comparison test. Well, here you go!
      • 7 Years Ago
      Jeremy, #3 in this comments, you are RIGHT.
      It is a really good comment, worth reading.

      oh yeah, you wonder where the fanboys are? A bunch of GTR fanboys are right around :P

      IMHO, the GT-R just look ugly. It is very fast, and this is good (competition is always good), but I would never buy one, even if I had the money.
      • 7 Years Ago
      For those who think Steve Millen might be biased towards Nissan, this was found on a Porsche forum:

      I hate to interrupt your conspiracy theory here, but Steve Millen has been a test driver for Road & Track reviews for years. Take this article for example, not one single Nissan in the lineup, yet R&T used Steve Millen as their test driver for all of the cars: http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/01/h...in-0-200-dash/

      And don’t forget this one from 2005: http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=1949

      Strange, the Corvette gets 1st, the Porsche’s get 2nd and 3rd place, while the Nissan in that test only gets 8th place. By your theory, shouldn't the Nissan have won since clearly it is his "favorite"?

      And yes, Millen drove Nissans in IMSA, but in the ~40 years since he began his professional racing career, he has also driven for the following manufacturers:
      And last but not least

      BTW, here is an interesting part of his career from '79:

      Professional driver for General Motors Dealer Team

      Looks like the Z06 should have beaten the Porsche by 5 seconds in this test as well, since he was at one time employed directly by GM.

        • 7 Years Ago
        Good find. Good post.
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