The Vienna Motor Symposium is where automakers and suppliers gather annually to discuss topics like new engines and powertrains, fuels, emissions and coming legislation. During last year's gathering Volkswagen Group CEO Martin Winterkorn said his in-house engineers were working on a ten-speed DSG transmission. This year in Vienna the topic was picked up again by brand development head Hans-Jakob Neusser, who divulged a few details on the new shifter but not when we would see it.

When Winterkorn spoke of it last year, Automotive News said that it would "likely will be used in vehicles with longitudinally mounted gasoline or diesel engines, such as the Touareg SUV and Audi A8 sedan," and would be compatible with rear- and all-wheel drive. A report in Autocar on Neusser's talk says that ten-speed dual-clutch 'box "is planned to be used in both transverse and longitudinal engine applications," and will be capable of handling 369 pound-feet of torque.

Mentioned as a replacement for the current six-speed DSG unit specifically developed for "higher-powered engines with torques of over 250 Nm," (184 lb-ft), speculation is that it will go into the brand's premium cars to help lower emissions by up to 15 percent by 2020.


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      Not me
      • 7 Months Ago
      Soooo transmissions are the new shaving blades? Just add more and more, and make them more and more expensive
      Lab Ninja
      • 7 Months Ago
      Yay more moving parts!
      ccweems
      • 7 Months Ago
      Anybody have an idea on what the difference is between a dealer replacement of a clutch on a 6M and a DSG10? Now, what is the expected life of the respective clutches? I rarely hear of non-hotrodders replacing 6M clutches before 100K miles and the cost is easily under $1000. DSG failures often fail in under than 100K miles and the cost (not breaking out the clutch by itself) runs $3000 - 4000. Interested in other's experience.
        Rob Gomes
        • 7 Months Ago
        @ccweems
        This DSG is unknown, but the parts cost of a Porsche PDK clutch pack in their "more normal" sports cars like a Boxster S, Cayman S or base 911 is $1500.
      r53CooperS
      • 7 Months Ago
      Schwinn-ing!!
      Ae Neuman
      • 7 Months Ago
      with vw quality control we can look forward to a whole new generation of coverups and recalls. yah.
        SloopJohnB
        • 7 Months Ago
        @Ae Neuman
        Has nothing to do with VW….put this one at ZF's door. And don't believe 'life of transmission' fluid…you better change fluid and filter every 30K miles if you want that ZF to go beyond 100K miles with any reliability.
        djrroar1
        • 7 Months Ago
        @Ae Neuman
        The data is not out yet but it will be, the quality of VW increase significantly in the last 3 years, the hard data is not available but when it is the perception of VW quality will change.
          turbo_awd
          • 7 Months Ago
          @djrroar1
          If I had a nickel for every time I heard that while I owned VWs.. And to think I actually believed that propaganda myself for a time..
        SloopJohnB
        • 7 Months Ago
        @Ae Neuman
        Hmm…as long as it's better than ZF...
      Master Austin
      • 7 Months Ago
      Why introduce new things, when the current ones are unreliable? Fix the current stock of unreliable parts before introducing new ones!
      knightrider_6
      • 7 Months Ago
      Why not use CVT like they do in most Audi models.
      SloopJohnB
      • 7 Months Ago
      It certainly seems excessive. If you want a CVT, buy a CVT. Better yet, buy a snowmobile. It's a lot like having 20speeds on your road bike. At least 8 of them are useless.
        LW
        • 7 Months Ago
        @SloopJohnB
        only people who don't care about pedaling at optimal cadence thinks 8 of the speeds are useless.
      Max Deranged Max
      • 7 Months Ago
      There are sooo many kind of trouble you may experience with the nightmare DSG, one of the most dangerous is the sudden loss of power and sudden deceleration. The most unreliable transmission ever and not even comfortable, let's forget it when it comes to mainteinance or repair.
      knightrider_6
      • 7 Months Ago
      CrapWagen should cut it's losses and leave US market
        carguy1701
        • 7 Months Ago
        @knightrider_6
        Do you ever have anything positive to say? Just because you (or someone you knew) knew somebody with a Volkswagen who never changed the oil and then cried because his engine seized doesn't mean they're unreliable.
      to your email L
      • 7 Months Ago
      Sorry I don't go much for manual transmissions, but I drove a vehicle w/a CVT and one with a DCAM and I like the DCAM wwaayy better. Besides with the computers and such, they can make better shifts than any human can and from what I hear lotsa supercars that's all they have aka the Ferrari FF.
      willettcolin1
      • 7 Months Ago
      Who on Earth knows what a "DSG" transmission is?!
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