• Sep 20th 2009 at 6:03PM
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It was nearly a year ago when we reported on a NAGTROC forum user getting hit with a $20,000 bill to replace his toasted transmission after using Launch Control (LC1) on his GT-R. In time for the second model year of the car, Nissan first dropped Launch Control, then they decided to include it, but with safeguards (LC2). In the meantime, a growing number of owners of the initial batch got together and filed a class action suit against Nissan in the hopes of receiving some compensation for their transmissions.

That suit was settled last weekend in California. The verdict: any owners with LC1 will have their warranties reset for 5 years/60,000 miles once they upgrade to LC2, and the LC2 transmission and internals -- including VDC -- will be fully covered by Nissan. If you use the LC2 with VDC on and something breaks, everything's covered. If you turn the VDC off and use LC2 and something breaks, you're in the poo.

However, if you turn the VDC off and use LC2, then turn VDC back on and everything is fine, then you drive for a while and then a few weeks later something breaks, Nissan will have to prove that turning the VDC off weeks earlier is what caused the breakage. Previously the burden of proof was on the owner; now it's on Nissan. Owners of 2009 cars will also get a $75 coupon for service at a GT-R-approved dealership. Owners will receive notices in the mail with the details. Whew. Glad that's over. Now can we get back to enjoying one of the finest cars on the roads today? Hat tip to Matt

[Source: NAGTROC]



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      • 6 Years Ago
      crapass Datsun
      • 6 Years Ago
      i remember when automatic transmissions were 'automatic'. All this drama to get a 0-60 time.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I'm sure GT-R owners would feel terrible if they didn't get the $75 coupon (redeemable at select Nissan dealers).
      • 6 Years Ago
      I'm glad they realized that its was a serious issue that needed to be addressed. But then again they never should have had launch control as a feature if it voided the warranty.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Geez, if the flappy-paddle transmissions are too delicate, just put in a Tremec TR6060! It'll handle all the torque from an LS9 and from the 8.4L Viper V10. Hell, in a Lingenfelter twin-turbo Z06 with 1100hp, the Tremec 'box still held up better than the Aichi Kikai tranny in the GT-R. I'll admit a dual clutch tranny works great on the track, especially in something as sublime as an E90 M3, which I'd take over the Nissan any day, because you can get a proper manual and a screaming V8, but on the road, give me a clutch pedal! Flappy paddles do not belong on road cars, ya hear me, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche, and Maserati!
        • 6 Years Ago
        The transmission aren't delicate. The initial software let the clutch out faster than any human could at peak torque RPMs.

        That would bust plenty of manuals or automatics just due to the superhuman speed at which it went from Neutral to 1st.

        And it wasn't even faster than the V2 software, which ramps up torque once in gear. It was bad software versioning. The tranny ain't the problem.
        • 6 Years Ago
        The problem was wheel hop. The loading and unloading of the tire while accelerating caused 1st gear to break. Lowering the launch RPM lowered 0-60 time, as shown by Edmunds Inside Line, and also helped to cut back on the wheelspin that induced wheel hop.

        http://www.2009gtr.com/2008/10/how-to-fix-nissan-gt-r-transmission.html

        • 6 Years Ago
        I don't agree the problem is that the computer could let the clutch out faster than a human. It is not difficult to dump a clutch as quickly as the hydraulics will let it move. Not difficult for a human or a computer.

        The real problem, IMHO is it is an AWD drivetrain with a lot of grip and an engine with a lot of power. When you put them up against each other in violent action, something in the middle is going to break. This is true of all cars, especially AWD cars. Clutch dumps are very hard on a drivetrain.

        The trigger of the problem is Nissan made a car that was supposed to be easy to drive like a bat out of hell, they showed people how to do it, so people did it, and it turns out the car can't take that kind of abuse. And since Nissan was showing people how to do it and advertising figures based upon it, they didn't have any easy out from taking responsibility. So they paid.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Stupid Nissan, you shouldn't have to file a lawsuit to get warranty work just because Nissan doesn't know how to build a car.
      HotRodzNKustoms
      • 6 Years Ago
      $75 won't even cover the oil for a oil change in that car. The main reason I hate this car is because of the launch control and transmission. 1. Don't include a feature that the owners are not allowed to use but you include it to get those astronomical 0-60 numbers in mags. 2. This transmission should have been designed better to withstand the forces the car in stock form is able to exert on it.
        • 6 Years Ago
        @HotRodzNKustoms
        Well hey, that's how you build a supercar-beating car on the cheap.

        "Oh yea, it can beat cars twice it's price; you're just not allowed to find out for yourself."
        • 6 Years Ago
        @HotRodzNKustoms
        well for all the fanboys who were saying that this mythical transmission problem didn't exist... well it took LAWYERS for Nissan to admit the problem. I'll bet that a few lawyers bought this beast and then once reading on the message boards.... it's time to get to work. In the end this was the right thing to do and I'm glad that Nissan is doing the right thing....even if it took Lawyers to make it happen. It'll also help people have faith in Nissans fastest car... otherwise it'd always be chatted about at GTG's and then when it's resale is in the dumper people will say... well there is this mythical thing about this car and now this car is not worth 1/2 of what it could. Here's hoping that the GT-R's live long happy lives hopefully at tracks where you can really enjoy this monster.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Thanks for not explaining the VDC acronym. Writing 101 says define all but the most common acronyms.
      • 6 Years Ago
      So whats the thought about buying one of these used?. Not being rich i usually buy my cars around 3 years old, so i suppose not too long off before they will start to onto my consideration list. Im slightly nervous how a big a risk a 3 year old, out of warentee car (particulary one whos only selling point is that it can be driven hard and fast) would be.
      • 6 Years Ago
      So Hitler's GT-R is covered then?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOAXJTTc__w
      • 6 Years Ago
      There is one up here at Purdue. Looks intensely incredible. Until the transmission is safe and no warranty voids are within threats over what I use, I won't really consider one.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Haha yep there sure is. I'm guessing your talking about the black one? I see it all the time, love watching it.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Even though it has been settled this has kind of turned me off from the GT-R.
      The feature was put on the car for a reason and this car was made to be driven a certain way so this issue should never have come up.

      Also, let's not forget that when your warranty is up, a transmission is still going to cost you $20,000.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Then don't replace the whole transmission.

        Once you're out of warranty, you're free to replace the gears and clutches w/ aftermarket parts, which are already on the market and are cheaper than OEM.
        • 6 Years Ago
        With this settlement done, just make sure VDC is always on and drive it like you stole it.
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