There's been the article recently describing maintenance costs of a closed plant. At least for me the numbers were quite shocking.

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I can't imagine the situation getting any better for Hummer in 5 years. By then, there will be a myriad of innovative, hybrid crossovers getting carb-level MPGs and the demand for these will be all but non-existent. I think they should leave Hummer for the army folks and create a buff new truck under Chevy (or GMC, like you say) with an efficient diesel drive and tough attitude.

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The Army and Hummer have nothing to do with each other other than some family resemblance.

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Re:Epyx,

They used to, that's where Hummer was born. AM General Designed the HMVEE for the army, which then GM bought and sold on the market, basically intact in its original form, as the Hummer H1. So in fact Hummer has its origins in the army, and while the army doesn't currently use any variation of the civilian brand, there's nothing preventing them from going back to their roots and creating mil-spec vehicles.

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"AM General Designed the HMVEE for the army, which then GM bought and sold on the market, basically intact in its original form, as the Hummer H1."

This is incorrect. AM General brought the Hummer to the public itself in 1992 and sold the vehicles until 1998 when GM bought the brand name. The H1 nomenclature didn't come about until after the H2 was introduced in 2003.

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Since when is Hummer an icon? The Am General Humvee, maybe but that is a separate animal. Hummer has not been around long enough to be an icon of anything.

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The anti-Chinese rhetoric here is ridiculous. That's right, keep cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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so in the 80s it was the Japanese, the 00's it's the chinese, who's next? India in the next decade, the EU after that? Then we can start over with the Russians again.

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Bloke and Mez,
Since the Chinese hold or will soon hold (think it may be 750B) about $1 Trillion of our debt or 10%, and with the budget proposals quadrupling our annual debt, I can see that amount going nowhere but up.

And with the increase in nationalized businesses (banking, manufacturing,media) and soon healthcare

Its not Chinese bashing, its US policy bashing. Allowing this much debt, adopting socialist practices,

I bet its okay now that we are bashing the US instead of China. Should we apologize now too?

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I like how you cannot even mention the Chinese on here without some ignorant buffoon claiming that you are uttering "anti-Chinese rhetoric".

Nice.

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"I like how you cannot even mention the Chinese on here without some ignorant buffoon claiming that you are uttering "anti-Chinese rhetoric".

Nice."


Oh please, the only buffoons here are the gas-guzzler crowd who have had years to living on the never-never and are now finally facing the music. During all those years when they've never bothered looking further than their own shores while still ignorantly thinking they're the best at everything and completely untouchable, parts of the world have changed. A number of developing countries have nurtured successful and powerful enterprises. Those of us stunned that someone would even want to take on the likes of Hummer realise that a foreign buyer is a small boost for the US car industry and that of other countries (such as Russia and South Africa) where the brand manufactures. But that flag-waving pick-up truck crowd just can't deal with their good 'ole American nameplate actually being salvaged by those "little commies." That's the real problem in the commentary above. Time and time again the anti-Chinese slander overwhelms these boards.

Wake up.

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@ Bloke

Nice little rant, but I still don't see any "anti-Chinese rhetoric" in his comment. However, I do see plenty of anti-U.S. rhetoric in your rant.

The only thing you really made clear with that last comment, is that you are an insecure little man who spends most of his time pointing out other people's faults, in the hopes that noone will notice his own glaring inadequacies.

Now, if you will excuse me, it's a nice day outside, my wife is baking a pie, and my daughter wants to play catch. Maybe one day you too will have something to be joyful about, and you will no longer have to live your life as an angry little troll.

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Pokey - proof (if any where needed) that you live in a dreamworld and that someone's feeling a bruised ego. No surprise there.

And if you'll excuse me, I'll remain in the real world. You talk about insecurity - and you feel the need to bring your wife and children into the argument! As we speak, my own spouse is rolling her eyes at the mere mention of what posters on here bring to the table.

And don't get on your high horse about "glaring inadequacies" either The only inedaquacies on these boards are from those who simply cannot accept that countries such as China deserve the same business opportunities as anyone in the west. Anti-Chinese rhetoric is often splattered all over these boards and you know it.

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Bloke may be overreacting a bit, but I do feel that autoblog commenters tend have more simplified views of China, like something out of a Frank Miller movie, where the discussions generally circle around a few cliched topics to ridiculous and surreal proportions.

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of informative comments that keep me around, but in general the ridiculously cliched comments here tend to pop out more often than, say, a sister blog like engadget.

For example, lead paint jokes here tend to get recycled and voted up a lot. It was funny in 2007, but come on, you gotta try harder. The quality of a joke should be measured by the extent you can make the target laugh at himself despite being offensive. It speaks of originality.

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