• Nov 30, 2008
GM has seven planes (four of them are for sale), and one of them was recently and infamously used for a brief sojourn to Washington for head honcho Rick Wagoner. When the public found out about it, well, let's just say the polling numbers weren't exactly favorable. For reasons that might or might not be related to that episode, GM has asked the FAA to block its planes from being able to be tracked on sites like FlightAware.com. This is something that private plane owners -- a group of folks who don't usually seek the limelight -- are known to do. And GM has every right to do it and not be judged for it, since it's possible that GM feels the flight thing can turn into and undo distraction. But we can still raise an eyebrow at the timing... Thanks for the tip, Big Spender!
[Source: Bloomberg]


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      • 6 Years Ago
      Is it me, or are these auto execs doing everything possible to be unlikeable? Really, their testimony in front of congress was a disaster. It only showed that they live in an insulated cocoon of unreality.
      • 6 Years Ago
      this is stupid, you cant track anything on flightaware unless you know the tail (n-number) of the aircraft, i highly doubt that the general public is really that intrested in tracking 7 of GM planes....
        • 6 Years Ago
        You don't think their competitors are interested? And I assure you think can find the N-numbers easily and likely already have.
      • 6 Years Ago
      OK, it was tacky to take a private jet to Washington, but these companies have to have plants and suppliers scattered all over the place. If you need a team to go around and inspect / problem solve / whatever in a bunch of small midwestern towns, seems like a private jet might make that a there-and-back in a day proposition, while commercial might have them spending _much_ more time making assorted connections. Time is money.
      • 6 Years Ago
      "can turn into and undo distraction."

      You mean it "can turn into an undue distraction?"
        • 6 Years Ago
        "Four and a half gallons of one, half a firkin of the other" as the Britsh are fond of saying...:)
      • 6 Years Ago
      Waste.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I'm sure GM doesn't want the public to see how often spouses of the executives use the private jets for personal reasons like vacations, golf outings, shopping sprees.....
      • 6 Years Ago
      GM's PR department (or whichever) isn't really doing the companies any favours with the public. People's jobs and livelihood are on the line and the heads which haven't done very good jobs are still all enjoying all the luxuries they had when times were good.

      I personally would not mind if they received bailouts, but I hope they use it on something useful (like building cars people want and improving efficiency and flexibility)
      • 6 Years Ago
      Let us make the decision on who survives, give every tax payer a voucher/tax credit of $10000 towards the purchase of a car......American consumers will show who they support, cars sales will go up, you already know who the winners and losers will be, in effect we have already been doing this as consumers. But it is our money, let us do the voting.
      • 6 Years Ago
      The drum beat of anti big 3 and anti business marches on in the fine pages of Autoblog...
      • 6 Years Ago
      Most of the people on this forum don't have a clue about how and why CEO's and other top tier execs use private jets to travel. Can you imagine how many meetings and phone calls an exec of this caliber has on a daily basis? Now, imagine that CEO having to be in Washington for these hearings and back to Detroit to finish off another 6-7 hour day! Do you think they'd really just jump on a commercial jet and wait for the delays or even cancellation to get to Washington?!! Oh, no wait! You expect them to jump into a Chevy Cobalt and zip on over to DC for the hearing and then just jump in and come on back! No hotel for them! They just to a 24 hour round trip and back to work to fix the auto industry!

      These guys don't get the life of luxury that you imagine, but of course they get paid high figures for very long hours. The problems that the big 3 has had have been brewing for many decades because of the union labor demanding more ridiculous wages and benefits year after year. I work for a major fortune 500 company and my CEO gets paid $1 for his salary and only profits from stock options, which have soared over the last few years!

      What a joke you people are! Get back to your miserable lives and quit worrying how G.M and the rest will get their shit together!

      BTW, I don't think that they should be asking for congress to fix their problems either! They should file for bankruptcy and fix it themselves! If Porsche can do it and become the worlds most profitable automobile company anyone can!
      • 6 Years Ago
      Mr. Oak: While I understand your sentiment re: the Executive branch and it's relation to spending (insofar as they can veto it) you've obviously missed this blurb from the Constitution:

      "All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives."

      Hmmm, maybe that's why Congress' collective approval rating is 9% (wow, 3 times as many people currently approve of GWB vs. Congress!)

      Please take your rants to Speaker Pelosillini.

      (oh, and I can't help but lament that we [collectively, sigh] just plucked 2 members - one a fresh faced junior! - of the aforementioned 9% approval rating Congress and dropped them in the Executive branch. What do you think happens to spending now? Yep: Change You Can Believe In!)
      • 6 Years Ago
      But you still want us (tax payers) to still give you OUR hard earned money?
        • 6 Years Ago
        Seriously, if you're coming to the American people and asking us for a bailout, then it is our business where you take these private jets. It's also our right to know what these automakers are planning to do to rectify their business model, and how/when do they plan on paying the government back.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Come on sparkster,

        Even if they got all of "your" yearly tax contribution, it's probably still about a buck o' five.
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