• Jul 28th 2008 at 3:27PM
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As if selling a quirky Swedish brand wasn't hard enough, Saab dealers will now have to do it with a smaller powertrain warranty. Effective immediately for 2009 models, all powertrain warranties on Saab vehicles will be reduced to four-years or 50,000 miles. Most media outlets, including Automotive News, are reporting that Saab's current warranty is seven-years and 100,000 miles for its powertrains, but that's inaccurate. Saab's powertrain warranty has the been the same as the rest of GM's brands since they were all increased in September, 2006 to five-years or 100,000 miles. So the new Saab powertrain warranty lops one year and 50,000 miles off the old one. The brand will keep its free scheduled maintenance offer for three-years or 36,000 miles, however, to remain somewhat competitive with other entry-level luxury marques. GM noted that no other brands are reducing their warranties, just Saab, so you better hope your brand new 9-3 was built on a Wednesday.
[Source: All Cars, All the Time]


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      • 7 Years Ago
      More reason for me to be happy that my wife owns a 2007 Hyundai Elantra Limited that has a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty as well as a 10 year 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty and free oil changes (non synthetic) for the life of ownership of the car.

      Of course some of it is dealer based benefits that we got from the purchase of the vehicle last year.

      Not to sell anyone on Hyundai or even the Elantra but this is one of the many reasons that the foreign competition has always looked more attractive vs the domestics such as GM.

      On another note I sort of saw this coming to SAAB ever since GM cannibalized..oops I mean bought out the once famous Swedish automaker. I used to really like them until they started sharing GM parts, which in my book I had never had good history with after owning 3 GM cars and 2 trucks. In fact I will cut the sugar coating and just say that I would never go back to GM unless they pay me for 3 cars that had owned which had head gasket problems leaving me with a huge repair bill which consists of having to rebuild or replace the engine, rod bearings going bad, cracked engine blocks, horrible electrical issues from stupid ones such as the power window switch or turn signal wiring shorting, to multiple failures of their alternators, headlight and taillight wire corrosion and map sensor failures. Don't get me started on their transmissions either. I have a huge list.

      Anyone telling me that their mom's or grandma's 84 chevy celebrity gave them no problems besides regular maintenance or whatever means nothing to me. To me it just means "oh wow a good car actually made it past quality control" which is still a low number of cars that will actually last made by GM. If you think I am making this stuff up go check on google and see how many forums there are on cars made by GM, especially the head gasket issue on their 3.1L V6 engines that GM to this day still refuse to acknowledge as a possible recall that should have been issued. Warning...you might actually be surprised and your fanboyism pride in GM might be destroyed. At least Ford issued a recall on the same head gasket problems with their 3.8L V6 engines.

      Getting back to the issue cutting back on powertrain warranties tells me that the company is getting close to their demise and the lack of faith they put in the company is really starting to show.

      Tell me why do I want to buy a SAAB now?
      • 7 Years Ago
      Audi, BMW and Volvo offer four-year, 50,000-mile warranties on their vehicles...

      Although I would love the extra warranty I support GM's decision to free up some cash for future product development. The change in warranty would not stop me from buying a Saab which I am currently considering purchasing.

        • 7 Years Ago
        I would agree except that why must Saab, one of their higher end brands, be subject to the worst warranty? The Saab price premium should cover the extended warranty better than lower priced brands. As one of the last badges with any intrinsic value, GM should be doing all it can to polish its image either for internal profit or for eventual sale.
      • 7 Years Ago
      So when will GM cut Saab completely like HUMMER? When will they cut their other all fuel-guzzingly, truck brand GMC?
      • 7 Years Ago

      I'm sure the reduction is due to higher warranty costs. They wouldn't be doing it for the fun of it. They probably did some research and determined that at X mileage the warranty costs increased to the level they were losing too much cash.

      It's a money thing...remember they have to come up with ways to save/generate $15b in a short time period. I believe this is just one of the first places they found where to cut to save cash.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I have a special place in my heart for the 9-2x. Otherwise I think they offer some really cool cars, just none that meet my specific demands. Good styling these days, though.
        • 7 Years Ago
        azzo, I'd love me a Saabaru, as would many, but the car hardly exists anywhere. Nothing on my local craigslist, and only a crashed one on ebaymotors. Nearest on autotrader is 700 miles away (from Seattle). There's gotta be someone who wants your car, especially if it's an Aero manual.
        • 7 Years Ago
        2006 92X Aero 5 spd. manual... the only bad thing, cloth seats (a B*tch to keep clean) & its ext. color is red (looks better in black or silver ,IMO). 19,000+ miles.

        I'm also in metro Detroit & times are tough. With the Detroit 3 advertising K-Mart level deals for NEW stuff... not good. If I was in Colorado or the Pacific N/W I 'd be good!
        • 7 Years Ago
        I wish others did... I'm trying to sell one & am taking a bath financially. Better looking than the Subaru but resale not as pretty!

        :( :(
        • 7 Years Ago
        Nice car, mate. I'm curious as to why you want to sell. It's decently fast, very practical, and not a maintenance black hole or a gas hog.

        I guess if you need to sell, you need to sell. best of luck finding a buyer.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Saab... is cool but... why dose it matter how long the warranty is ? Saab's last for ever... ive seen a guy with 300k on his... and its still runing good to this day...
        • 7 Years Ago
        i thought he ^ was leaving.
        • 7 Years Ago
        clearly you dont know that "Volvo's are born from space shuttles" and that "Saab's are the retarded cousins only born from jets"

        Name that craigslist post!
        • 7 Years Ago
        He's trying to gain some crediblity back, leave him a week or so and he'll be bragging about more cars he supposedly owns.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Saabs with 300k miles were actually Saabs, not rebadged Chevy Trailblazers, Opel Vectras or Subaru WRXs.

      I am unclear as to how much an extra year of warranty would be so problematic cost-wise for a semi-luxury brand with theoretically greater profit margins. Fact of the matter is that GM needed to cut costs and continues to destroy Saab at the expense of its other worthless brands. Is Buick really worth saving?

      As a former owner of a 900, its sad to see how much GM can ruin the Saab brand. As a current 9-2x owner, I'm always amazed that GM had to mark down the price to 2/3 the comparable cost of the identical WRX. Maybe if GM preserved the value of Saab, they could cover the cost of the warranty.
        • 7 Years Ago
        GM had to mark them down because the Saab dealers were complete morons! These guys would lead customers to 93X's for two reasons. (1) they thought Subaru were garbage & (2) GM had incentive plans to move the 93X models.

        Sounds like GM corporate wanted their 30% relationship in Subaru to die (& they got their wish...) I bought my 92X because I worked at GM & figured it was a sneaky way to get a Subaru, but still use my GM discount!!!
      • 7 Years Ago
      In some ways this is smart. Saab shoppers are probably oblivious to what the current warranty limits are on a Buick or GMC. So, as long as the warranty coverage is competitive with other jazzy brands (and it's still better than Audi, Mercedes, Jag, Volvo- due to paid-for service for 3 years) GM will probably not loose any customers. If they cut the warranty on a Cobalt, they'd probably loose ever shopper to Korean brands. Why risk a Cobalt if the warranty is sub-par?

      However, it is weird how GM will within its portfolio, short change Saab on things like warranty and OnStar coverage.

      If you get a Swedish Saab with OnStar you don't get the following treats any American GM product enjoys..
      -no remote un-lock
      -no automatic service reminders
      -no turn-by-turn directions.

      Why this supposed premium brand gets worse service than a Chevy customer befuddles me. I've got a 9-5 SportCombi and it's pretty amazing. Killer power, 29-32 hwy mpg, best seats in the biz and safety that saves the day. I'd get another in an instant.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Tell me why do I want to buy a SAAB now?

      Well....Um, fast cars that get over 30 mpg? I have an 03 9-3t that gets 34mpg doing 80. Cannot beat that....I wonder why GM is not promoting this fact?
      • 7 Years Ago

      Why would people buy a Saab when GM has clearly lost confidence in its quality, reliability and durability?

      • 7 Years Ago
      The V6 motors (not sure if they are still currently produced) while fun were particularly bad for reliability. Around 100k miles damn near every part will be shot, the internal parts are so poorly finished that most saab forums you will read nothing but horror stories about bearing failures and such.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I have no faith that GM has or will properly manage Saab. As a brand, it's never been a huge seller. But it always had its identity, usually (as in this article) described as "quirky", much to the delight of the car's admirers (myself definitely included). But since GM snapped it up, it's been little more than a repackaged Opel/Vauxhall. The 9-7X? Jeez, what an embarassment. GM oughta do themselves and Saab a favor and let the brand go. Maybe Saab's management team (a la Harley Davidson) can then take over and make something with it.
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