• Jan 23, 2008
The Impala isn't the only RWD car stuck in limbo while GM waits for the fog of new CAFE standards to lift: Motor Trend reports that now the C7 Corvette program has been put on hold, as well. We reported yesterday that the next generation C7 Corvette will bow out of the horsepower brinkmanship game and instead shed weight, engine displacement and ponies. The interim issue is that GM doesn't know what its EPA gas mileage targets are during the run-up to the 35 mpg fleet average in 2020, and those won't be sorted out until 2009. Until they are, GM is content to wait to sort out the next 'Vette, including whether or not it will retain its traditional layout, switch to a mid-engine layout or be offered as both. As a Vette owner and fan, this blogger is not against high-horse performance, but the idea of a light(er) C7 that focuses on power-to-weight and is "more fuel efficient [and] even nimbler than it was before" is an exceedingly tasty proposition.

[Source: Motor Trend]


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      • 7 Years Ago
      I definitely saw that as a Lambo chop as well... The Corvette but stay front engine rwd. If not its a different car.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Wait, doesn't GM already has a lighter weight corvette with nearly 300hp in the Pontiac Solstice GXP or its Sky Redline brethren? Surely that engine could be pushed to 300hp and it weighs over 319lbs less than the Corvette. If they brought out a Chevy version of that it would basically be their lighter weight/lower HP vette. Though the kappa cars and the vette are very different cars, the biggest being I myself can actually fit in a vette (and I can actually fit a weeks worth of luggage in the back).

      With that said, I'm all for a lighter weight vette, but I don't think the power should go down very much and I think it should stay a naturally aspirated car, preferably a V8 N/A car. That's part of what makes a modern vette a vette. Just like that massive V10 is part of what makes a viper a Viper, and a flat six is what makes a porsche 911 a Porsche 911.

      I don't understand why they can't use technology similar to the cylinder deactivation used in the other V8's, but instead have a selectable deactivation setup. Like have a switch for 4cyl @ ~200hp or the full 8cyl @ ~400hp. The Corvette is light enough that it could run around with 200hp no problem, but when you want to have some fun you can just flip the switch. With that and the "skip shift" thing they use now I bet it would get awesome mileage.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Having both front and mid-engines sounds great for straight line performance, but won't having 2 engines work against CAFE requirements? Is this some sort of loop-hole in CAFE?
      • 7 Years Ago
      the current vette hits 30mpg on the highway with the 6M. considering its low volume volume I think GM would be better off focusing on its car (cobalt, malibu, impala) lineup with hybrid powertrains and getting its truck lineup into the high 20mpg range. Putz and assoc. just use the new CAFE regs as an excuse. they dont seem to talk about killing V8s in the truck lineup or cutting the weight of them.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I agree entirely. Don't screw the vette over, just make one of the high production lower-end cars super efficient to compensate or something.
        • 7 Years Ago
        It gets 30mpg when driven like a granny. Put your foot in and it gets much worse.

        The Corvette has some really ingenious (some might say devious) technology in it to deke the EPA cycle--skip shift it a big one--but if you drive it at all like a normal owner it doesn't get close to that. In the city, its particularly nasty if you put the throttle in hard.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I specified highway mileage, ie, cruising along at 75. obviously when driven in the city or hard the mpg drops into the teens.
        • 7 Years Ago
        You don't have to get on it that hard with the ls motors to put out good power, that's the whole point. A lower powered engine would have to work harder to get the same acceleration you speak of "getting on it". Combine that with the current v8's ability to run the tall 6th gear decently, and I doubt you'd see any significant difference in mileage for any given acceleration/speed.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Great.... not again!!! Anyone remember when the C5 was almost killed.

      • 7 Years Ago
      Wow those are some hideous headlights.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I like the idea of a lighter vette that's for sure and maybe GM might finally consider direct injection and possibly a turbo on a smaller displacement V-8 in the vette or even a vette offered with the venerable D.I 3.6 V-6 with a set of turbo's. All I know is the vette can't continue down the road its going mainly due to the strict cafe reg's, I would hope if they went with the V-6 which is highly unlikely, but if they did that the would mount it mid-ship styles!
      • 7 Years Ago
      We can crab all we want about CAFE #'s but a lighter more fuel efficient Vette will keep the marque going in the future!! the corvette engineering team will get it done!!
      • 7 Years Ago
      They can cancel the Vette for all I care. One can easily have more fun for less money.

      I'd rather see GM build a hardtop Solstice with a more fuel efficient drivetrain (direct injected normally aspirated ecotec perhaps).

      Or better yet, bring back the Fiero. With the 88 suspension (or even better hopefully) and a modern drivetrain.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Rob is on the right track, that the Vette in it's current form is good on gas. What should be looked at is the Aveo/Corsa(GM should have had this car in the states yesterday) and Cobolt/G5/Astra to get 40-50 mpg. Malibu/G6/Aura can get to the 30's with 6-speed hybrid. Trucks should at least get 25mpg, and sold only to how many 50mpg cars are sold. The G8/Impala/Camaro can have a combo of both 38-40mpg cars and high 20's mpg low volume cars to avg. at 35mpg. On top of that where is the Volt in all this? The Volt can make in feasible for the Vette to still thrive.
      • 7 Years Ago
      is the C6 not selling well? why is there already so much talk about the C7?
        • 7 Years Ago
        Automakers start looking ahead even before the current car is in the market.

        I hope they only offer v8s because the corvette isn't an ordinary car. It deserves the best. With that I don't mind having a smaller v8 with less power as long as it stays on top of its competition. The new GTR is fast for its weight and can turn on a dime. Viper looks to be coming close to the edge. As long as performance improves across the board and the price doesn't skyrocket I'm happy.

        It's not like I can buy one anyways.
      • 7 Years Ago
      CAFE is ruining the economy.

      Every congressthing who voted for CAFE needs to be charged with treason for colluding against American interests. So should Bush, for not vetoing CAFE.
        • 7 Years Ago
        @ rocketboy

        The wars are funded by extra-budgetary supplements and are thus not reflected in the budget. In 2007 those supplements totaled $170 billion whereas the military budget was $439 billion. This does not include spending on Veterans Affairs ($33 billion) or Department of Energy spending ($23 billion) to research and maintain nuclear warheads.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States
        • 7 Years Ago
        Cafe is not ruining the economy. Its hurting th ebottom line of american car companies. And that's because they're stupid or corrupt. You choose. Because it affects the bottom line they get Rush to tell you CAFE is ruining the US economy, and its communist and will cause you to favor abortions. Don't buy it. If the rich are upset by a law its probably a good law for the rest of us.
        • 7 Years Ago
        "CAFE is the direct result of the big 3 not getting off their asses and doing something on their own sooner. It is their own fault they are in the situation they are in now, and if 1-2 of them go bankrupt, will suck for them, but their own fault."

        Total BS. I lay responsibility on the American voter, American media, and the US Government. The absolute distrust between all 3 exposes us to our enemies (foriegn companies bent on world domination). Foreign governments (ex. Japan, China via currency manipulation) are commited to keep their citizens employed and their companies profitable. Sounds reasonable to me, yet we see none of that essential government-business cooperation in the USA.

        Of course, it's easier to kick back and continue blaming US "big business".
        • 7 Years Ago
        I love this. The Government changes the rules of the game and it's the Big Three's fault. They should've had the foresight to build cars nobody wanted.

        Intellectual giants here, watch their stride...
        • 7 Years Ago
        A lack of foresight and discipline on the part of the American citizenry ruined the economy. Perhaps if people hadn't bought way above their means, and if the Fed and the financial sectors hadn't tacitly encouraged such behaviour since 2001, we wouldn't be in this mess.

        Spending billions on a needless war and implementing slit-your-own-throat tax cust doesn't help, either.

        The subprime mortgage crisis and accompanying credit crunch is the problem, not CAFE. CAFE, if nothing else, will probably spur R&D and prevent things like the War For Oil.
        • 7 Years Ago
        ^^^Drunk^^^

        And CAFE has nothing to do with anything. If people want things, others should be allowed to build it. This artificial floor being set will only limit personal choice. If people want to be stupid consumers and purchase based on poor decisions, it should not be my responsibility to bail them out. That way when they are bankrupt and I was wise with my money and investments, I am rewarded for my good stewardship.
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