• Nov 20th 2007 at 12:32PM
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Oh no. Blogger Mickey Kaus says that he's seen an updated Pontiac Solstice ('09, presumably, since the '08 is unchanged), and that the new front clip sports the unbecoming, "tongue-thrusting" look of the current G6 GXP. Let's hope what Kaus saw was just some driver with poor taste rolling with an aftermarket nose, because the Solstice is not in need of a factory-prescribed rhinoplasty. GM would do well to focus on further refining the next generation of the car and not engage in ill-advised interim facelifts just for the sake of having them.
The Solstice is a great-looking, fun little go-kart that's not without its flaws. None of those, however, involve the car's appearance, which is its strongest suit. The new-look G6 GXP fascia is so overwrought that it effectively ruins an otherwise appealing package (GXP trim is the only way to get the G6 with the 3.6L V6 and 6-speed auto, and be advised: the GXP sedan gets the Gene Simmons mug, too). Don't do that to the Solstice, Pontiac. When you're trying hard to rekindle the Excitement Division, it's probably not a good idea to remind folks that you were the Aztek Division not so long ago. Unnecessary silliness like this does precisely that, so we hope this is one report that never leaves the proverbial rumormill.

UPDATE: More details from Mickey Kaus in the comments.

[Kausfiles via Instapundit]


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      • 7 Years Ago
      Pontiac needs to fix the interior, the shift linkage and find some extra storage.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I could see this on a coupe version. Please don't do it to the convertible.

      To those whinging about trunk space, there's no way to have it without changing how the trunk is hinged, so don't expect it for quite some time.

      The S2000 does okay and it has about the same amount of trunk space.
        • 7 Years Ago
        So buy a Miata.

        The Solstice wouldn't be what it is if the trunk opened the other way, it would change the styling and the panache of the car. I agree it's not for everyone, but then again, not every car can be a Camry.

        Do you happen to have a link or other info for your rash of Solstice trade-ins versus Miatas or did you just say that because it supported what you wanted to say? There will always be 1-year trade-ins. Some people have regrets with all cars. My boss's boss bought a 1-year used Bentley Continental GT.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Calling it "whinging" implies that it's insignificant. Well, not all roadster buyers are diehard enthusiasts. Plenty of them just want something pretty and cheap that they can drop the top on.

        There's a reason the Miata kept selling like hotcakes while the equally fun-to-drive MR2 Spyder withered: it had next to zero trunk space. Even enthusiasts have to sell "toy" purchases like like a roadster to their significant others. The Miata remains an easier sell vs. the SKY/Solstice.

        Practical issues like these can also kill the enjoyment of the car once the honeymoon phase is over. Many, many Solstices are getting traded back in after ~1 year of ownership. Far more than Miatas.
        • 7 Years Ago
        "So buy a Miata."

        I have. Twice :)

        No, I don't have a link. My point is based on a couple of conversations with Pontiac sales reps who both mentioned an unusual number of early trade-ins after the initial rush to buy, with cranky customers citing breaking cupholders, leaking tops, et cetera.

        Their point being: if GM had put another 10% into making the car more practical, they didn't think demand would be cooling off as much (the previous poster's comment on 200-something-day supply is, IIRC, correct, versus a ~20 day supply in mid-2006).

        I think you may be misunderstanding where I'm coming from. I like the Solstice. A lot. I like what it represents for GM.

        And I don't want GM to walk away from pure, enthusiast-oriented two-seaters (again) saying "hey, people stopped buying the car, what can we do," when the Solstice is only a few practical details away from being a excellent overall vehicle with the potential to create lasting brand equity.
      HotRodzNKustoms
      • 7 Years Ago
      As much as some would like to believe. GM is not stupid. They will not fool with a highly successful package like the Solstice. I would even go as far to say that the next generation car will be more evolutionary than groundbreaking.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I like the styling of the Solstice as it is. Maybe Pontiac is developing for the Solstice GXP a unique nose like it has on the Grand Prix and G6. I think the current Solstice has a very clean look and it distinguishes it from the Sky.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I think a more aggressive front end is a great idea. I like the car but always thought the front was too round.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I think I read somewhere that dealers have a 266 day supply of these things. Successful?
      • 7 Years Ago
      I hope not. fix what needs to be fixed,top and engine and gearing and trunk. forget the nostrils now.
      The G8 isn't here yet and the rear end needs to be fixed already. Too '08 Accordish
      • 7 Years Ago
      I think Solstice will be the mug looked on favorably in 20yrs while the saturn will be seen as trendy.

      and much as i mildly dislike the window controls in the HHR, that is where they sould be on the Solstice, not 1/2 way back on the door armrest. Talk about poor functional design.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Unfortunately GM is stupider than Jupiter... If this is true i wouldn't be surprised by it at all.. and all this just as I though GM had finally gotten a new brain. And just as I thought that Pontiac cars was looking better than ever before they come out with the GXP and had to ruin it all. Now let's all hope of the old Grand Am look and side panels on those old Grand AMs.

      Let's hope they don't start changing the new Saturn look back to the old ones too... and plastic panels cuz someone had thought it was a good idea.
      • 7 Years Ago
      This has to be just a rumor, GM can't be that crazy. The solstice is a decent looking car that will appeal to people who like the retro style. From the reviews I've read it seems they should concentrate on having it perform up to it's looks.

      That G6 GXP nose just makes me think of Fast & Furious gone even more wrong...
      • 7 Years Ago
      troll!
      doesnt even make sense and i even clicked. i suck.

      i too prefer the saturn design.
      solstice could use a new mug, not the g6 face.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I disagree. All things being equal, I'd take the styling if the Saturn Sky over the cartoonish Solstice and I'd welcome a more agressive, and edgy design from Pontiac.
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