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The Orange County Register has an update on Wanxiang's plans for Fisker, and it starts with the idea that you would see brand new Karmas back on the road in mid-2015. From there the goals get less certain, the OCR saying the Surf station wagon "could ship in 2016" and the mid-priced Atlantic "might come in 2017."

The targets came from an interview with interim CEO Roger Brown as he laid out how fluid the present situation is. The primary certainty, according to Brown, is that new owner Wanxiang is determined to execute on its vision and "build a great car company." The puzzle pieces that make that picture are still being assembled – even the name of the post-bankruptcy company, Fisker Automotive for now, is being debated.

No matter what the name will be, Wanxiang and Brown need to establish the blood and bones of a company that can provide what the original Fisker Automotive didn't. Brown said they're looking for a permanent CEO over the next three months, they need to settle on a location for headquarters and increase the staff from the current 25 to the 200 or so necessary to engineering a fully fleshed-out Karma and successive products, and figure out where cars are going to be built. Concerning workers, Brown revealed that, "We've been flooded with people that want to come back." As for manufacturing in the Delaware plant that Fisker Automotive still controls or somewhere else, we've heard there are even odds on US production, but the final answer will probably be delivered by the new CEO.


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      Spec
      • 11 Months Ago
      I would definitely dump the Fisker name.
      Bert
      • 11 Months Ago
      This is the company part owned by Al Gore that he talked obama into giving them millions and they built the car out of the US. DOA is a better name for it.
        Spec
        • 11 Months Ago
        @Bert
        This has been a message from the right-wing bubble where misinformation that they like never gets corrected.
          EVnerdGene
          • 11 Months Ago
          @Spec
          1. If AlGore was a partner/investor in venture capital firm, then he was an owner of Frisker. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/car-company-us-loan-builds-cars-finland/story?id=14770875&singlePage=true 2. Obama involved. Read the ABC news article above. 3. Read the ABC news article above. 4. Dream on. 5. Thank Cain types for blowing the whistle before more money was blown on this turd. "almost never" When there is something positive to say, I have said it. Have you ever heard me bad-mouth the Leaf? (except that it looks like a french turd)
          EVnerdGene
          • 11 Months Ago
          @Spec
          Spec What part of Bert's comment is not true ?
      danfred311
      • 11 Months Ago
      I don't expect they will succeed (chinese judgment combined with ridiculous 2.4ton EV) but might be moderately informative nonetheless. They could consult me and have a genuine chance but why would they do that when they can throw away a cool billion in the most incompetent way possible, all by themselves... They probably haven't followed the green scene one bit let alone know my name. It always amazes me how these people have so much money and make such big decisions and they don't know the first thing about what moves in EVs. Do they know who Jack Rickard is? do they know who Alan Cocconi is? Martin Eberhard? do they know what an induction motor is. do they know what ABG is.. I wouldn't be surprised, indeed I expect, that the answer to all those is no. When I contacted Wanxiang about A123's idiotic sales policy they didn't know about it. They didn't know that the default position of A123 is to refuse sales. And even after I made them aware of it they fooled themselves that that was probably for the best. I don't know what I'm talking about. A123 know what they are doing... As hard it is for you sheep to understand, these people who run big companies, they don't know what they are doing. They are schmucks just like most everybody else. Just like Bob Lutz is dumb enough to think global warming is something Al Gore made up (he really does) and the head of Audi USA said that the Volt is a car for idiots. And Carlos Ghosn hired that guy to lead Infiniti and I wouldn't be surprised if Ghosn didn't know Nysschen said something that stupid. They are all idiots without exception. Even Elon Musk, he's just less stupid in certain areas and he's pathologically driven. He doesn't understand the importance of weight. Nor the importance of not leaking 100watt constantly 24/7. He doesn't understand that he's building cars for the world, not for his 5 kids. He blamed Martin Eberhard for his own cost overruns. Sued him and lost. He blamed Fisker for starting a company on his own. Sued him and lost. And Elon is so naive that he thinks Nasa is an honest effort and UFOs aren't real. Voting my comments down wont change that. Banning me wont either. Indeed that would only ironically cement the truth of it.
        jasdroe
        • 11 Months Ago
        @danfred311
        You obviously know a lot about EVs. However, you offer your expertise in a combative, judgmental and condescending manner. You even invite others to ban you. Leadership skills involve many things, but the most effective ones seem to be such things as working to find common ground, not taking things personally, realizing that alternate views need their day in the sun for assessment, and being a catalyst to help move everyone toward a better product or service--no matter who gets the credit. Calling people idiots, sheep and schmucks, even when true, almost never accomplishes anything good for you or anyone else. Attacking others puts them on the defensive and almost insures that they will not say, my gosh, you are right." In my humble opinion, you need a tactical do-over if you ever expect to rise above the nonsense you have encountered.
          danfred311
          • 11 Months Ago
          @jasdroe
          I'm the problem, right? good thinking. I'm combative because after 8 years of trivial truth falling on cement head ears, there is only so much courtesy left. I'm provocative in a desperate attempt to wake the dead. I see dead people but you don't know that you are dead. I see the world like in the movie What Dreams May Come where you are frozen minds in death. And when I animate you dead heads momentarily by provocation, all you can muster is to blame me for the pain of waking you up. And you go back to sleep. Like I say to all the dead who kneejerkingly say I'm doing it wrong, show me how and I shall concede that my approach was less than ideal. Show me how to get through to people. Another common excuse is that I have to do everything myself. If I want a better world I have to singlehandedly build it myself, despite the rest of you. How dare I expect the world to listen to reason. You would sooner douse yourself in gasoline and be lit on fire than let reason permeate your minds. How dare I. You take up the cause and show me how I could do better. No? that's what I thought. And a correction, Elon blamed Eberhard for the cost overruns but it was then Eberhard who sued and Elon lost big because he was dead wrong. EM vs ME. Eberhard was a fool though to sell his freedom of speech. As a result, noone knows who he is and Elon gets all the credit. Not that he deserves to be remembered when he sells out the truth.
        Montie
        • 11 Months Ago
        @danfred311
        Where's Danfred Motors? If you know so much about the industry start your own company. At least a consulting firm so you can tell all the schmucks what they should be doing. Otherwise you're just an armchair CEO.
          Chris O.
          • 11 Months Ago
          @Montie
          +! I work a "regular" job as a corporate officer, as well as owning and operating a couple entrepreneurial ventures. Large companies do not get large by having idiots at the helm, or at least they don't remain large for longif they do. Not liking or agreeing with choices made by companies does not necessarily smarter or more correct than the people that made the choices. Sure, they could be poor decisions, but they could also be ones that you don't understand, because you are not privy to the information that the decision makers have. If you logic is that everyone who runs a company is an inferior schmuck, I'd be curious to know what evidence you can put up that would indicate that you would be an improvement. If you have some greater understanding of technical matters than some of these CEOs and product planners, big deal, lots of people do (myself, included). If it were that simple, then you could just go over to UT or Wayne University, and load up on really good EV talent. However, there's much more to this than some sideline heckler would probably understand. For example, you call out Must as being an idiot that doesn't understand the importance of weight... has it occurred to you that both he and (more importantly) his engineers understand the importance of weight, but also have to balance in the importance of generating a product to a price point? I'm not going to argue the point that any of the people you mentioned could do a better job, because everyone can, but there's a good reason why these people aren't calling you in for your input. Feel free to produce a superior product, at a better price point... maybe then the idiots of the world will seek your illuminating counsel.
          Chris O.
          • 11 Months Ago
          @Montie
          @Dan: Yep, I am a coporate officer, though only the most simple and obtuse person would think that they could draw any meaningful conclusions from that one piece of information. I'm sure that it doesn't matter that I've worked as a powertrain engineer (mostly off-highway), a lead engineer on military SAM guidance and propulsion systems, a SDLC software engineer, along with a number of other things you probably don't know very much about. It also wouldn't matter that I've started successful companies, two of which I still own and operate (the rest of which I've sold). We mere idiots can only just bask in the glow of you vast superiority. Your flawed and narrow view apparently has you sitting on top of the pyramid of the world. How sad for the world. Cheers to your delusions of grandeur!
          danfred311
          • 11 Months Ago
          @Montie
          Montie, I have a registered business and I can easily do consulting. I have offered it several times in public. Heck I'd probably do it for free if that would get the nitwits to listen. Dyson took his vacuum cleaner to all the established vacuum makers and they all turned him down because they didn't need his idea. Out of desperation he started a company on his own which last I checked is the largest vacuum cleaner manufacturer in the world. Oddly enough despite making rather heinous looking products at ridiculous prices. Did they know better? or are you just mindlessly looking for an excuse to stay asleep. Chris, I can believe that you are a corporate officer.
          danfred311
          • 11 Months Ago
          @Montie
          Bob Lutz is filthy rich. But he's still stupid enough to think global warming is something Al Gore made up in 2006. Idiots think that money makes them right. No need to bother with reason, money is an adequate gauge. By that measure the oil company people and Bush jr should be geniuses and never wrong.
          danfred311
          • 11 Months Ago
          @Montie
          In a universe where aerodynamics and weight influence efficiency?
          Spec
          • 11 Months Ago
          @Montie
          DanFred motors could only succeed in a different universe that has different physics and different economics.
        mawhalen53
        • 11 Months Ago
        @danfred311
        WAKE UP SHEEPLE
      m_2012
      • 11 Months Ago
      Stick a fork in it, Fisker is still DOA. They do have a decent chance of ******* millions out of the government again though.
        bootsnchaps60
        • 11 Months Ago
        @m_2012
        Doesn't sound dead to me and doesn't sound like they need the money.
      RRL
      • 11 Months Ago
      I think they should name it "Tucker Car Company".
      Levine Levine
      • 11 Months Ago
      Fisker is synonymous with a scam pull off by a few 'white collar' shysters who called themselves CEOs and enriched themselves at the expense of US taxpayers and gullible investors. As the Chinese firm Wanxiang now owns the remnants of Fisker, the privately owned company should divorce itself from a name associated with a bad reputation.
      raktmn
      • 11 Months Ago
      How about everyone chill out and let the new owners do their jobs once the bankruptcy is complete, and see what they actually do?
      EVSUPERHERO
      • 11 Months Ago
      Change name to Bad Karma.
      Jesus!
      • 11 Months Ago
      Karma is a stupid name give that one the boot while you are at it.
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