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2009 Chevy Camaro a no-show at auto shows {Autoblog}
Jan 22nd 2008 2:44PM yeah i think in a wierd way we are agreeing here just looking at it from different standpoints. Im saying Chevy dropped the ball a bit, and you're giving me the details as to why.
"Nobody wanted to wait three years for the new Camaro, I'm sure that most at Chevy didn't, either,"
it does suck that the car is still a year away. Sure factory problems and leadership problems, and bean counters are to blame. But that is all Chevy's fault. Sure there are other cars out there that show as concept cars for a while before showing up, like the GT-R you mentioned. But most of those are cars exploring a new market. With Chevy, it is a bread and butter model that they discontinued because they didnt plan properly to replace it.
Im with you and anxious to see a Camaro. If i was in the market for a V8 RWD coupe it would probably be top of my list. Just glad its not on my list and i had to wait 3+ years to get one. I probably would have purchased a mustang by now.
I also hope that these changes to CAFE standards dont kill off these muscle cars. Many car companies are abandoning V8s in their future models even before these cars hit the market.
2009 Chevy Camaro a no-show at auto shows {Autoblog}
Jan 22nd 2008 12:14PM Eric77TA
"It's not an evolution of previous versions."
exactly how is a RETRO muscle car not an evolution of previous versions. Sure they arent keeping up the american tradition of using a platform for 20 years or reusing the same interior for 10 years but the camaro is as much an evolution of previous version as any car on the market. How come everyone else can be down the road to production with a revision of a car before showing a concept.
"At the time GM showed the Camaro concept, it was just a concept. There was very little business case for it. It had to be a smash hit on the show circuit to get the bean counters to approve production."
yeah that is exactly my issue. Why couldnt chevy figure out with its 40 years of experience in this market, that there was a market for this car. Im with Frylock350, GM left the party, said the market for muscle cars is dead, realised that if someone actually made a decent muscle car again (mustang) that the market isnt dead. Then they put out a concept car just to do market research to verify that the market is indeed alive. Then told everyone "great glad you like it, we'll give it to you in 3 years". It is evident that GM does not know its own market and they are late to market because of it.
2009 Chevy Camaro a no-show at auto shows {Autoblog}
Jan 22nd 2008 9:12AM 2.5 years may be a decent amount of time to create a new car and platform but it is way too long to do so in the public eye. People consider the camaro as an alternative to the Mustang. The new Mustang concept debuted in 2003 and was available for purchase in 2004. Compare that to the Chevy that debuted in 2006 and will available for purchase in 2009. That is just too long of a gap. Its not like they were developing an entirely new class of car, just a revision of the same car they have made for decades. Chevy made a mistake by showing that car prior to actually starting any work on production. Now it is old news before it can even be purchased, and the next mustang revision will steal its thunder. (dont get me wrong i like the car, but this seems like one big PR blunder)
2009 Chevy Camaro a no-show at auto shows {Autoblog}
Jan 22nd 2008 8:24AM Right about the time Chevy is "ready" to show the production car, Ford and Dodge will debut their muscle car concepts that are 3+ years from production. How the hell has it taken GM so long to get this car into production. Looks to me like all they have done in that time is a movie promo, a convertable concept (took a year to come up with that one), and made the vents faux vents. (hating that faux vent on the hood). That said, i do think this is the best looking of the new muscle cars.
Japan: Toyota reveals Mark X ZiO {Autoblog}
Sep 27th 2007 11:08AM please bring this to the states! I want a Camry SE wagon manual but they dont make it. My WRX cna barely fit car seats and carry my windsurfing equipment. And now that the camry SE is more a sports car than the new WRX, im considering it for my next purchase. Only prob is that the SE doesnt have foldable seats. So this with a V6 and manual please!!!
