As Tesla Motors stands ready to expand its presence in the oh-so-polite UK, green-energy company Ecotricity is accusing the California-based automaker of being a little less than civilized. The term bullying is being thrown around, and Ecotricity founder Dale Vince told The Guardian that Tesla's communication was "very dark", "shocking" and "brutal." All in the name of some well-placed Supercharger stations.

Ecotricity says it had been in talks with Tesla about collaborating on charging station locations. Tesla is looking to deploy the first part of its UK Superchager network this month, but Ecotricity now says it was contacted by Tesla saying that Tesla was going to take over many of Ecotrocity's prime sites, according to The Guardian. Moreover, Tesla is taking advantage of information gleaned from a non-disclosure agreement (NDA), Ecotricity alleges. Tesla did not respond to our request for comment on this issue.

Tesla said at the Geneva Motor Show earlier this year that it would significantly expand its Supercharger network throughout Europe in 2014 as it introduces the right-hand-drive version of the Model S sedan to the UK. Ecotricity, which specializes in getting its energy from renewable sources, said in February that it would start offering the UK's electric-vehicle drivers 1,000 miles of free fast charging annually on Ecotricity's so-called Electric Highway. The company said at the time that it aimed to deploy fast-charging stations at 90 percent of service stations along UK highways.

Tesla sold its first EV, the Roadster, in the UK all the way back in 2010.


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      purrpullberra
      • 6 Months Ago
      Tesla doesn't seem to have violated the exclusivity contract since they aren't a party to it so those claims is just the whining of an angry child. I definitely believe Tesla would encourage a company to adjust the way it looks at its (old) contracts and to work with their lawyers on new interpretations to find a way to serve Tesla and make money without having to harm this Ecotricity company. There is a lot of complaining that Tesla's Superchargers are absolutely NOT part of the regular EV infrastructure so maybe those arguments can be used to show there truly is a HUGE gulf between what Ecotricity is providing and what Tesla is providing. (I do love discussing stuff with you Rotation!) It is like the difference between selling an oil/gas mix for a string trimmer and selling jet fuel. There is no competition. I'm certain Tesla is following the law. I'm also positive they would do anything they needed to short of law breaking to achieve their goals. If that requires helping companies see just how drastically things are changing and that they can legally define these two different electric car fueling stations as non-competing making the contracts moot. I do know that for the longest time McDonalds was famous for picking exactly the right spot for their franchises after a lot of research especially early on. But then the other guys knew where to set up shop without having to do all the research themselves. Gas stations are much the same in that sense and so then would be EV charging locations. But I think Tesla might do well to find a partner themselves. I still believe there is a lot of money to be made by building shops that cater to Tesla owners right next to each Supercharger. There has to be a way to do what they need to do even of this potential partnership is not going to work. I sure don't think Tesla need to PAY anyone for the right to build at any good site, the owners will make a ton of cash from the car owners and Tesla pays for the whole installation.
      bluepongo1
      • 6 Months Ago
      @ Broken Records Still beating a dead horse about a 15 year old company not enableing 100+ year old companies with goverment welfare R&D and their (part of the problem, price point over quality, nickle & dimer compliance system gaming, inferior junk cars.) customers/ dealers who won't buy a Tesla, but never miss a chance to try and misinform on Tesla threads.
        bluepongo1
        • 6 Months Ago
        @bluepongo1
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        bluepongo1
        • 6 Months Ago
        @bluepongo1
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          bluepongo1
          • 6 Months Ago
          @bluepongo1
          It says volumes about the types who grudge down-vote LINKS. LMFAO !!
        bluepongo1
        • 6 Months Ago
        @bluepongo1
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      Joeviocoe
      • 6 Months Ago
      Well, if the landowners signed an ironclad exclusivity agreement... then Tesla won't be able to do what they are claiming to do. So is Ecotricity complaining about Tesla violating an agreement between Ecotricity and the Land owner, or did Tesla sign an agreement of no-competion themselves?
      Joeviocoe
      • 6 Months Ago
      "An Ecotricity spokesman claimed Tesla was negotiating with an unnamed company, asking it to break off exclusivity contracts signed with Ecotricity and sign for Tesla instead. He said that Tesla had come in to contact with the company through its NDA with Ecotricity. Ecotricity has sought an injunction at the high court to stop Tesla using information gleaned from the two company's partnership under the NDA." Okay... so it was my first guess of the previous comment. So we'll see how 'ironclad' the landowner/ecotricity contract is. Ecotricity would have to prove that Tesla could have ONLY known about the location details from their collaboration with ecotricity.. and not have stumbled upon the location when doing their normal site selection. It makes sense that Tesla and Ecotricity could have chosen the same location based on traffic history and intersecting corridors of travel.... and Ecotricity just assuming that Tesla stole their idea.
      Joeviocoe
      • 6 Months Ago
      I don't understand how or why any company thinks that a particular site is "theirs". A J-1772 charger does not take away business from Supercharger ... and vice versa.
        Rotation
        • 6 Months Ago
        @Joeviocoe
        Ecotricity puts in fast chargers. Ecotricity thinks they are their sites because they have a legally binding exclusivity.
      • 6 Months Ago
      I always have heard and seen people or children who are bullied. Threatened, hurt, verbally abused, etc. It`s really hurt seeing people get hurt. "haters will say what they want, but their hate will never stop you from chasing your dream". I suggest a safety application you could use if you are in trouble. check this out for more info. http://safekidzone.com/#!/page_home
      sebringc5
      • 6 Months Ago
      Bow down and kiss the ring Dale! You are not the chosen one. All the best, Aaron Lephart www.smartcar451.com
      brotherkenny4
      • 6 Months Ago
      The british know we have a current media obsession with the term bullying and thus they use that specific word to try and garner sympathy and engender dislike of Tesla. It's silly coming from anyone British. They have defined the term bullying in their colonial empire. This is just like we bullied them when we fought for our independence. The british have a long history of spying on the US and manipulating our press. I wouldn't necessary doubt that tesla is strongly pursuing their best interest, but I doubt anything that comes out of the british media or from a british company.
        krona2k
        • 6 Months Ago
        @brotherkenny4
        Brotherkenny, I normally really appreciate your sane and rational posts, but this wasn't one of them. As a Brit I don't think its helpful to bring up ancient disagreements and conflicts in relation to this issue. The truth of the matter is only Tesla and Ecotricity know what is really going on here. I don't think it's helpful that Ecotricity have brought this argument into the public but that doesn't warrant knee jerk anti Brit reactions.
      lad
      • 6 Months Ago
      I don't believe Tesla would do that. Tesla's CEO claims they are improving the Planet for humans and are even willing to share IP with other companies. From what I've seen so far, I believe that. I sense Ecotricity missed a profit opportunity here for some reason and are blaming Tesla using the media. Ecotricity should file suit and try the case in Court, not in AutoBlog.
        Allan W Kesick
        • 6 Months Ago
        @lad
        From what little I gleaned from the article, it seems like Ecotricity is pissed because Telsa does not charge for their service. It's kind of hard to explain to owners of vehicles that Eco serves why they have to pay when the one right next door so to speak is free!
      Rotation
      • 6 Months Ago
      I dunno. I'm not real big on exclusivity, as I complained about below. But despite my qualms, it could be legally binding. Presumably Ecotricity wants Tesla to sublet from Ecotricity or at least pay them a fee to waive their exclusivity. I don't agree that you have to prove that Tesla would have "inevitable discovery" on this location to find Tesla at fault. It's possible Ecotricity is complaining Tesla is using details of the Ecotricity contract that they found out through the NDA and would never have discovered through normal site location searches. Either way, it'd be great if they all found a way to provide services instead of butting heads. I'm afraid Ecotricity sees Tesla not as an ally or competitor but just a deep pocket.
      Lamborandon
      • 6 Months Ago
      very dark? like batman?
      danfred311
      • 6 Months Ago
      Dale, the vagueness of the accusations greatly reduce your credibility
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