This would really be news is if a publicly accessible hydrogen refueling station was opening outside of Southern California. But we'll have to wait a bit more for that. What we have here is Cal State Los Angeles announcing that a new hydrogen station is up and running as of Wednesday. And it's within spitting distance of a bunch of freeways, which is always a good thing.

Cal State LA's Hydrogen Research and Fueling Facility will be "utilized for research, teaching and advancing clean transportation technologies, as well as dispensing fuel to hydrogen fuel cell vehicle users," the university says. The station is just a couple miles from downtown Los Angeles and its vortex of highways, so it may become a cog in the long-awaited Hydrogen Highway. That effort recently gained some, uh, steam after Toyota and FirstElement Fuel Inc., which is headed by ex-General Motors and ex-Hyundai executive Joel Ewanick, said they were working together to deploy a network of stations across the state. As part of that effort, the state of California said it would spend $47 million on 28 new stations.

Mind you, before this opening, Southern California was already home to nine of the country's 11 publicly accessible hydrogen stations, according to the US Department of Energy. The other two are in Northern California and, oddly enough, Columbia, SC. See Cal State LA's announcement of the fuel-cell station opening here and watch a short video of some of the speeches below.



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      Joeviocoe
      • 9 Months Ago
      Why do they always seem to avoid talking about the numbers that are important? How much for a kg of H2? How many kg/day capacity?
        Joeviocoe
        • 9 Months Ago
        @Joeviocoe
        Hello... Real World calling. Not studies and prediction of some possible future. Where can I buy Hydrogen right now? And for how much? You cannot say.
          GoodCheer
          • 9 Months Ago
          @Joeviocoe
          The fuel cell bus program at the University of Delaware was paying about $11/kg.
        Dave
        • 9 Months Ago
        @Joeviocoe
        "Why do they always seem to avoid talking about the numbers that are important?" Always? I have posted numerous studies showing the cost of hydrogen. As usual, even when you ask a question, you are lying.
        Dave
        • 9 Months Ago
        @Joeviocoe
        "Why do they always seem to avoid talking about the numbers that are important?" Actually, they always talk about it and you always pretend that they don't. http://www.hydrogen.energy.gov/pdfs/review13/2013_h2_amr_plenary_production_and_delivery_dillich.pdf
        Dave
        • 9 Months Ago
        @Joeviocoe
        "Why do they always seem to avoid talking about the numbers that are important?" Actually, they always talk about it: http://www.hydrogen.energy.gov/pdfs/review13/2013_h2_amr_plenary_production_and_delivery_dillich.pdf
        Dave
        • 9 Months Ago
        @Joeviocoe
        Cost of hydrogen from various sources: http://www.hydrogen.energy.gov/pdfs/review13/2013_h2_amr_plenary_production_and_delivery_dillich.pdf The study discusses many ways of producing hydrogen as well as many ways of distributing it.
      Joeviocoe
      • 9 Months Ago
      The fastest complete recharge of an EV was demonstrated last year, way faster than any Hydrogen fill-up even. Demo stations are said to be built this summer. Just a few between SF and LA.... by a company that has already built 100 of the fastest Fast Chargers just this past couple of years. Right now, Hydrogen stations have an 11 station head start... but this new type of station is still much cheaper per station, so it can easily leapfrog over. Here is the company's CEO talking more about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT7JmyW9d_o&feature=youtu.be&t=7m25s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7X4TRBazvo&feature=youtu.be&t=33m37s
        Jim1961
        • 9 Months Ago
        @Joeviocoe
        Or you you can recharge at home, cheaply, while you sleep which is not an option for fuel cell vehicles, gasoline or diesel.
        Joeviocoe
        • 9 Months Ago
        @Joeviocoe
        Demo from last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5V0vL3nnHY
      CoolWaters
      • 9 Months Ago
      What a waste of taxpayer money. The VOLT has Killed the Hydrogen Car. There's absolutely no need for this project. Solar and EV's are a better solution for a man and mankind.
        Spec
        • 9 Months Ago
        @CoolWaters
        Yeah . . . FCVs can claim various advantages over pure EVs like longer range and faster refuel time . . . but when they are compared against plug-in hybrids like the Volt . . . well, it is very hard for them to claim any advantage other than local emission free driving. And they cost MUCH more than the PHEVs. I just don't see how they'll compete unless there is some massive breakthrough in FCV cost.
      Joeviocoe
      • 9 Months Ago
      Marco has already appeared.
      Dave
      • 9 Months Ago
      In the future, when the power lines are knocked down by wind or snow, bucket trucks powered by hydrogen will repair them.
      JakeY
      • 9 Months Ago
      @Aaron Neither do the compressors that fill hydrogen tanks.
      herkimermedia
      • 9 Months Ago
      That don't confront me none. I'll just use the solar array, or turbine conveniently located at my house to refill my Volt. In the next decade, this is going to become quite commonplace.
      Joeviocoe
      • 9 Months Ago
      Every time an article appears about HFCV hype the same bunch of engineers and informed commentators leap to the analysis., in defence of taxpayer money. That is ok, since the criticism is mostly objective. In truth both technologies have potential weaknesses and strengths. While it's true that EV technology has established infrastructure for most commuters, primarily those living anywhere other than rural areas and able to afford personal transport and electricity, the numbers of EV's (and even EREVs) are still growing at a faster rate than any other technology. EV technology is still expanding to a wider range of two-wheel and 4 wheel passenger vehicles. On the other hand, HFCV technology has the potential to fool governments and investors on a global scale by mimicking the image of a gasoline paradigm. Everyone from West Los Angeles residents, to East Los Angeles residents, a narrow range of vehicles can potentially benefit from HFCV technology, since from an infrastructure viewpoint, only Everything is replaced. The logistics of HFCV infrastructure are still tax payer driven. HFCV stakeholders are in such a hurry to rush the development of H2 infrastructure that they are smearing all other alternatives. Unlike EV technology, HFCV technology needs no common sense. The stakeholders have all the resources and political support needed to lobby government policy makers to pay for the R&D, at a slow and methodical pace. Both EV and HFCV technology will be important technologies, albeit in very separate markets, if the planet is to accomplish international 'zero-emission' environmental fuel targets. Fighting partisan wars for any individual technology, is exactly what hydrogen advocates are doing to ensure public funds are one sided and favoring HFCVs.
      Neil Blanchard
      • 9 Months Ago
      So, how many vehicles a day can be filled at this station? How much does the hydrogen cost per KG?
        Joeviocoe
        • 9 Months Ago
        @Neil Blanchard
        Seeing how it has electrolyzers like Emeryville.... $12/kg.
        Letstakeawalk
        • 9 Months Ago
        @Neil Blanchard
        About 15 vehicles per day they say, from 60kg/day capacity. It is still a research station (that happens to be open to the public), not actually a commercial station.
        2 wheeled menace
        • 9 Months Ago
        @Neil Blanchard
        Oh, so only 3-4 times the current price of a gallon of gas. And the cars are only $50,000-$100,000 Think of all the money you will NOT save! hydrogen is the future!
      sebringc5
      • 9 Months Ago
      Useless infrastructure. Electricity is already EVERYWHERE! Getting it at the high amperage to do fast charging is the problem. I do like the multiple choice of available options. A lot of times the method you THOUGHT would be the best turns out wrong. All the best, Aaron Lephart smartcar451.com
        Joeviocoe
        • 9 Months Ago
        @sebringc5
        Buffered battery storage at fast charging stations could help with that first point.
        Joeviocoe
        • 9 Months Ago
        @sebringc5
        The Arteries and Veins of our electric infrastructure is already in place and functioning.... we only need the high power capillaries.
        Joeviocoe
        • 9 Months Ago
        @sebringc5
        Buffered battery storage at fast charging stations could help with that first point.
        Joeviocoe
        • 9 Months Ago
        @sebringc5
        The Arteries and Veins of our electric infrastructure is already in place and functioning.... we only need the high power capillaries.
        Dave
        • 9 Months Ago
        @sebringc5
        Electricity infrastructure is worthless garbage. Every time theres a hurricane, we lose it. Every time theres a blizzard, we lose it. Every time theres an earthquake, we lose it. Every time theres a war we lose it. And do you know what saves us? Generators supplied by tankers and pipelines full of natural gas, diesel, and gasoline. The latest hydrogen tankers can carry more than 1,100 kg of hydrogen where it is needed. The hydrogen pipelines in the gulf states survived hurricane Katrina easily.
      sebringc5
      • 9 Months Ago
      Useless infrastructure. Electricity is already EVERYWHERE! Getting it at the high amperage to do fast charging is the problem. I do like the multiple choice of available options. A lot of times the method you THOUGHT would be the best turns out wrong. All the best, Aaron Lephart smartcar451.com
      Dave D
      • 9 Months Ago
      LOL The sad part is so many are going to be offended by this fact.
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