Subaru gave the next-generation, 2015 Legacy a brand new, more sophisticated platform and improved interior at the Chicago Auto Show, but the engines were carried over barely changed from the previous gen. However, if a rumor from Car and Driver turns out to be true, then the power trains may be getting upgraded as well.

A source within Subaru indicates that the aging 3.6-liter flat-six might finally be getting a replacement in favor of a smaller, more powerful six-cylinder engine, and the four-cylinder may get direct injection. Both of them would be ready for the new Legacy's mid-cycle refresh in about three years, and they would likely be shared by new Outback too.

The turbocharged, GT trim has been absent from the US-market Legacy for the last few model years, but the insider hinted that it might make a return in the coming years. The new version would use the 2.0-liter turbocharged flat-four found in the Forester and the WRX. Though like the Forester, a turbocharged Legacy would likely only be available with the CVT.


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      jebibudala
      • 10 Months Ago
      I thought everyone was using direct injection already.
        carguy1701
        • 10 Months Ago
        @jebibudala
        There are some holdouts. Ford, Toyota, Honda, and a few others have been slow to adopt it.
          piggybox
          • 10 Months Ago
          @carguy1701
          Honda has adopted DI in its new earth dream engine line
          wendavid99
          • 10 Months Ago
          @carguy1701
          Current 9th gen Honda Accord has direct injection engine.
        fordskydog
        • 10 Months Ago
        @jebibudala
        Subaru went to it last year, about when everyone else did, with the newest Impreza and Crosstrek. So this is the first cycle getting the new engines despite them having been in development for the last few years.
      bbostic5
      • 10 Months Ago
      I'm not sure why the pro-manual people are getting so much hate. So what if someone would rather shift their own gears? I for one would rather have a manual. Why? Because it's more FUN. I could care less if it's better or worse. I get the feeling that most of the hate is from people that have never learned how to drive stick, so their excuse is that it's an inferior transmission. So what if it is? Let us enjoy it. Variety is the spice of life.
        rsholland
        • 10 Months Ago
        @bbostic5
        I've been driving a stick since 1962, and currently own a WRX. Yet I can fully appreciate at how good modern automatics have gotten. I am also fully aware that 3-pedal cars are on the way out, much like roll-up windows and flathead engines. I'd be surprised if there are any still around in 10 years.
        TRAILbrake
        • 10 Months Ago
        @bbostic5
        I'm always pro-manual transmissions but they're not all "fun". The Yaris and Corolla have terrible manual transmissions, so does the Accent/Rio and Elantra/Forte/Veloster. ALL manuals from Scion are disgusting too - save for the FRS. I hope that manuals continue to live on in sports cars where they're most appreciated; by the engineers who developed them and the enthusiasts who drive them. But in people movers like the Legacy, Optima, Camry, etc. I wouldn't lose a minute of sleep if they just disappeared altogether.
        hokkaido76
        • 10 Months Ago
        @bbostic5
        Because the arguments made by manual transmission elitists are based on emotion and a false sense of superiority, as opposed to reality and economics (the latter of which is the reason behind automakers dropping manual transmission options left and right).
          jtav2002
          • 10 Months Ago
          @hokkaido76
          But this is an auto enthusiast site. Obviously people aren't clamoring for the vehicles that make financial sense. I'm sure they realize there is a low take rate. Doesn't mean you can't have the option for people in a vehicle that had it for a long time.
      quantumfm
      • 10 Months Ago
      Everyone complains about the demise of the manual. However it is dead because no one bought them. Who would get a car that gets less gas mileage and you have to do more work? There are no benefits to having a manual anymore. Welcome to the 21st century.
        skoobey
        • 10 Months Ago
        @quantumfm
        And it's because there are no benefit's to the manual, that 9 out of every 10 cars sold are manual... Truth being, that many Americans haven't experienced the benefits of manual, especially on cheaper models. Sure, I'll take a BMW with automatic gearbox any day, but when you compare really good manual to a really bad CVT/auto, I see no reason to get the CVT/auto unless it gets significantly better mileage. And you'll be revving the engine so hard with a bad automatic, that you'll loose all those MPG that the EPA states. Point being: Good automatics are not widely spread. Good automatics cost much more than good manuals. You get what you paid for.
          foxtrot685
          • 10 Months Ago
          @skoobey
          What sky did you pull this 9/10 cars sold are manual statistic from?
          hokkaido76
          • 10 Months Ago
          @skoobey
          Oh yeah, the BS "I'm just more enlightened than the majority of other car buyers out there."/ "The majority of car buyers are just dumb." argument. Seriously, get off of your high horse (you are no better than anyone else).
        Jay-Zeus
        • 10 Months Ago
        @quantumfm
        I like to do more work driving a car because I like to drive. We're sorry you think driving is such a chore.
      tenspeeder
      • 10 Months Ago
      It's the Toyotafication of Subaru. Each model becomes a blander model of its former self.
        AE86
        • 10 Months Ago
        @tenspeeder
        Umm not it has nth to do with Toyota. The only good looking car out of Subi I have in my life time is the STi. Everything else is forgettable. Toyota might be boring at least they have multiple models that do well.
        MrMonkaroo
        • 10 Months Ago
        @tenspeeder
        I totally agree. Since Toyota has had a stake in Subaru all of their cars are become vanilla. I guess Toyota wants to make sure Subaru is no competition. Even if you are a fan of Subaru you can't think they are doing the loyalist any favors by churning out reliable but mediocre products.
          Jasonn
          • 10 Months Ago
          @MrMonkaroo
          And that is why Subaru has more than doubled their sales since 2009? The only company to show growth 6 years in a row? Yeah, they've gotta be doing something wrong...
        Eggmania
        • 10 Months Ago
        @tenspeeder
        toyota is the only reason subaru actually has a car model that doesnt look like boiled ass (BRZ). we get it. you guys are loyal to the point of delusion. but pretending subaru ever had any decent looking cars wont get you anywhere besides an asylum.
      Terry Actill
      • 10 Months Ago
      When a new Subaru Legacy makes a Camry look attractive you know something's wrong.
      AGSHOP
      • 10 Months Ago
      worst legacy ever made!!!
      bonehead
      • 10 Months Ago
      Considering the new trend in Subaru engineering they will give it a CVT, equal length headers, FWD, and make the motor inline, while ditching the wagon (but giving the sedan SUV ride height) I swear every subaru design change of late feels like thats what they are ultimately shooting for. Slowing removing every reason to love a Subaru
        brandon
        • 10 Months Ago
        @bonehead
        FWD? What? What car do they have that is FWD? I generally agree with most of what you said, but I don't understand the FWD comment.
          rsholland
          • 10 Months Ago
          @brandon
          All Subaru AWD cars are full time AWD; thus proactive, not reactive.
          wtrmlnjuc
          • 10 Months Ago
          @brandon
          All Subarus are mechanically AWD, and are built to be AWD all the time.
          TRAILbrake
          • 10 Months Ago
          @brandon
          Spoiler alert, there are FWD Impreza's and Legacy's being sold in other parts of the world. "Subaru keeps adding things to their cars that Subaru fans hate and removing things from their cars Subaru fans love." For the record, NOBODY loved the 4EAT. The CVT, while not better than a torque converted AT, is a huge improvement over the 4-speed auto it replaced.
          carguy1701
          • 10 Months Ago
          @brandon
          From what I understand, the AWD system on the CVT models (save the WRX) is a reactive type system that only sends power to the rear wheels when front wheel slip is detected, and cuts the power off as soon as traction on the fronts is regained. tl;dr the CVT is the problem.
          bonehead
          • 10 Months Ago
          @brandon
          They dont have FWD and at one point they didnt have CVT and they didnt have equal length headers. What im saying above (clearly) is that Subaru keeps adding things to their cars that Subaru fans hate and removing things from their cars Subaru fans love. That is why i said "Considering the new trend in Subaru engineering they WILL give it a ..." And removing AWD and adding FWD follows their recent pattern of doing things we hate.
          brandon
          • 10 Months Ago
          @brandon
          You may be right. I don't know much about subies CVT AWD system. I thought it was like the 4 and 5eats. However, it's still not anymore of a FWD than the Acura system, or cars like that. Although, I do still hate the CVT.
        rsholland
        • 10 Months Ago
        @bonehead
        Another bonehead comment from a guy named bonehead.
          bonehead
          • 10 Months Ago
          @rsholland
          There is a lot of reading comprehension failure going on here. Of course they dont make a FWD car, nor did i say they do.
      DavidG
      • 10 Months Ago
      Is Subaru trying to be unappealing? Their cars continue to be less attractive than their previous models and offering a turbo only with a CVT? Seriously!
      saabMan
      • 10 Months Ago
      what's the deal with the demise of the manual tranny???
        rsholland
        • 10 Months Ago
        @saabMan
        Nobody bought them.
          rsholland
          • 10 Months Ago
          @rsholland
          Brandon, your original post referenced the "enthusiast crowd," hence my BMW comment. In fact, it's very hard to find a manual in any Euro sport sedan. So I'd say Subaru is in good company.
          hokkaido76
          • 10 Months Ago
          @rsholland
          @ brandon: nothing but excuses......
          brandon
          • 10 Months Ago
          @rsholland
          If facts are excuses, then sure. Yup, that's exactly what it is. Why would they have had such a steep decline in manual sales after the 5th gen came out? Did people in the course of one year just all of a sudden start hating manuals? Seriously?
          rsholland
          • 10 Months Ago
          @rsholland
          Brandon, your argument is full of holes. The BMW 3 Series, except for the M model, are all automatics. Car enthusiasts have embraced modern automatics. They're that good.
          brandon
          • 10 Months Ago
          @rsholland
          I thought we were talking about Subaru, not BMW. Shame on me.
          rsholland
          • 10 Months Ago
          @rsholland
          Bonehead, you're a bonehead. How you equate an appreciation for the Subaru CVT as a lack of a love of driving is beyond belief. I like my 5-speed WRX and I also like the high-torque CVT found in the '15 WRX and Forester turbo. I've driven a bunch of Subaru CVTs. They're all fine transmissions.
        Durishin
        • 10 Months Ago
        @saabMan
        I think it is a cost/emissions/mileage/#units sold thing.
          The Wasp
          • 10 Months Ago
          @Durishin
          It's a customer preference thing.
      Eggmania
      • 10 Months Ago
      car looks like a honda from 15 years ago. i dont know what subaru fanboys are smoking but pass it.
        TRAILbrake
        • 10 Months Ago
        @Eggmania
        15 years ago? That must be a compliment because 1999 was when Honda designed some of their best looking (and driving) cars: Civic, Integra, Prelude, Accord, and NSX still look good today.
      lazybeans
      • 10 Months Ago
      I like Subarus, but this is the most uninspired design I've seen in a while for any well known auto company. Totally lacks any identity of it's own. Generic Sedan 1.0.
        TRAILbrake
        • 10 Months Ago
        @lazybeans
        The only other mid-sized sedan that rivals how boring this Legacy looks is the bar of soap that Volkswagen calls the Passat Sport http://wot.motortrend.com/1401_2014_volkswagen_passat_sport_priced_at_27295.html
        fordskydog
        • 10 Months Ago
        @lazybeans
        Yes. This Legacy and the new Impreza/WRX. Both of them feel like Toyota products to me. Even if they aren't exactly pretty, they should at least be quirky or polarizing or elicit something, some kind of emotion. Wow. Thrice Subaru owner. Think I'll wait for the next one to trade up...
      miketim1
      • 10 Months Ago
      It looks better then the past model... but that isnt saying much
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