• Feb 7th 2014 at 9:56AM
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A fatal November car crash caused by a Minnesota woman who lacked a valid driver's license has spurred questions about how many unlicensed drivers are on state roads.

Marion Guerrido only had her learner's permit and no fully licensed driver accompanying her when she crashed her car into a six-foot retaining pond in St. Louis Park, Minn. Five children rode in the car, and two died.

How widespread is the problem? Approximately 1 in 8 drivers do not have valid driving privileges, KARE found. State records show since 2008 there have been nearly 310,000 convictions of drivers getting behind the wheel without a license.

"It means that there's a small percentage of people out there who are disregarding the safety of everyone else who's doing the right thing and for the people who are doing the right thing," Minnesota State Trooper Jarod Moris told KARE. "I would recommend paying attention to whatever everyone else is doing as much as you're paying attention to what you're doing."



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      seabasskj
      • 1 Year Ago
      The number of vehicles on the road that are without insurance is high as well. Of course, states require you to have insurance, however, there is no way to keep you from driving one if it doesn't. You get fined if you are caught. The same thing will occur with Obamacare, people may get the insurance to avoid the fine, but what happens when they get short on cash and miss a payment and the policy then cancels? It happens all the time.
        foubabou
        • 1 Year Ago
        @seabasskj
        The problem is worse than just people not having auto insurance. Some years back I had a woman turn in front of me and I hit her in Louisana. She was in a big land tank from the 70s and I had a Saab 900. Center punched my front end with the right front corner of her car. She was ticketed for 1) Failure to yield to oncoming traffic, 2) No valid driver's license and 3) No valid insurance. Car hauler came and loaded my car for the trip to the dealer and the cop let her drive away w/o license or insurance. Until that system changes nothing will change
      kpamesa
      • 1 Year Ago
      Wondering exactly how many of these unlicensed Minnesota drivers are actually senior citizens who don't remember to renew their licenses, who do remember but are denied renewals, are illegals who are taking jobs away from Americans who desperately need those jobs. Also wondering how many of those unlicensed drivers leave the state for warmer climes for 6 months every year and put the rest of America in jeopardy. But, given the political climate in MN, I guess the liberal stance is that everyone DESERVES the right to drive regardless.
        • 1 Year Ago
        @kpamesa
        BEWARE, driving in Co. there are too many "stoned' potheads on the streets.
          mo524
          • 1 Year Ago
          Beware driving in the south there are far to many methed up hillbillies on the streets.
          David S.
          • 1 Year Ago
          bullsnot......
        leoganz
        • 1 Year Ago
        @kpamesa
        Another numnuts making everything political.
      precstimes
      • 1 Year Ago
      It doesn't say they were HER kids. A learner's permit sounds like someone 15 or 16. The article doesn't say. Where were the adults? The parents of these 5 children SHOULD be charged with child endangerment at the very least. Were they too lazy or busy to deal with them like so many others around the country? If this woman was indeed the mother of these children, the law will just say, "She's suffered enough." I disagree. Judges let people off for that same reason when a child dies in a crash, because they weren't but in a car seat. These people should do jail time. If parents don't care enough to protect their kids or obey the laws, why should they get any sympathy from the courts? Where is the justice for the children who lose their lives due to these lawbreakers?
        • 1 Year Ago
        @precstimes
        Some of the children were hers and some were her boyfriend's children. If I remember correctly, the boyfriend's children were the ones that had died, but not certain.
      crotalus
      • 1 Year Ago
      Minnesota isn't the only state with this problem. I notice a lot of people making comments about "illegal aliens" and "Hispanics" (I guess they are the only ones who do this, right?) driving unlicensed. Other commenters are wondering why the cops don't arrest them. First: it isn't just undocumented people driving without licenses. Secondly, simply driving without a license in most states is a violation of motor vehicle laws, but it isn't a crime, so the person cannot legally be arrested. They can be issued a summons (traffic ticket) to appear in court. Raising the offense to a criminal level usually requires something more serious be involved than just not having a driver's license. Such as having a license suspended for committing a traffic-related crime, such as DUI, reckless driving or vehicular manslaughter/assault. Driving with a revoked license or revoked driving privileges is probably a crime in most states (one can be "revoked" without ever having had a license). In the described situations, an arrest could usually be made (and I realize the "list" isn't comprehensive...there may be other situations making unlicensed driving a crime). Keep in mind, if a person doesn't have a license, then they can't get liability insurance. Doesn't matter if they are here legally or not. I would much rather let undocumented people get licenses so they know what the rules of the road are and can purchase liability insurance. Sure is better than not knowing the traffic rules and running into people and letting someone else pay for the damage.
      msggov
      • 1 Year Ago
      Only training and experience can prevent wrecks. Drivers license only show they have basic training it can't prevent wrecks.
      James E. Morris
      • 1 Year Ago
      What is the percentage are undocumented aliens? Here in NC there is a high correlation between hit and runs and illegals not having car insurance, licence or insurance. We all pay for it with higher rates. I do not know the answers but it is a growing problems. We also have a large number of low-income workers buying car insurance and then cancelling it. They still have the paperwork but they stop making payments. It was also a major problem in S. Miami with a large number of non-licensed, no tags, to title, no insurance killing people. I know insurance is very expensive. You can not sit at a red light without watching 4 or 5 cars run through it on red.
        classof68gto
        • 1 Year Ago
        @James E. Morris
        In NV. it is a common sight to see cars with no license tags. Odds are they also have no license, no insurance and who knows what else.
      Zarathustra
      • 1 Year Ago
      They should start handing out jail sentences.... This actually hurts people. Set some pot smokers free to make room....
      mociambz
      • 1 Year Ago
      typical liberalville no responsibility for anything
        HollywoodF1
        • 1 Year Ago
        @mociambz
        "The main difference between responsibility and accountability is that responsibility can be shared while accountability cannot. Being accountable means being not only responsible for something but also ultimately answerable for your actions." You meant "no accountability." Republicans know all about no responsibility, because their goal is to ignore their inconvenient responsibility to society and be responsible to only themselves; all the while using the things in society that they themselves value, while considering everything they don't use to be worthless.
      Mikerrr
      • 1 Year Ago
      To be fair, having a driver's license doesn't indicate that you're a safe driver. It indicates that you've put yourself on a state-maintained list of people who are required to pay for car insurance. You say 1 in 8 drivers in MN don't have a license? So what. I say about 7 in 8 drivers who DO have driver's licenses have no business driving any form of motor vehicle because they're completely incompetent.
      eeverettm
      • 1 Year Ago
      Many hispanics, somalis and others are in MN. Is it any surprise that most of them wouldn't have a valid license? duh.
      • 1 Year Ago
      A drivers license doesn't magically make you a better driver. COMMON SENSE and a 100% FREE handbook CAN!! This claim that it could've been avoided is bs. People have been driving without licenses for forever. Riding a horse I'm sure is a bit more difficult than driving...For Christ's sake, how many people txt, drink, and fall asleep riding a horse? :/
        spokajo
        • 1 Year Ago
        If you don't think that obeying the law(which, if she had done, she'd not have been driving) is of no importance, then wait until one of them (if you aren't one already) drives into you and (hopefully not) kills someone you love with NO INSURANCE. Maybe then you'll see the problem.
      gvette75
      • 1 Year Ago
      A drivers license is nothing more then government greed. nothing more.
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