Hope may remain for a convertible version of the Scion FR-S, according to a report from Ward's Auto. You'll recall that rumors were swirling about the feasibility of a rear-drive Toyobaru convertible as early as October, and that back in November, Subaru – which makes the FR-S, Subaru BRZ and Toyota GT86essentially nixed the idea of an open-topped variant.

"We make the car, so if we don't make it, it can't happen," brand chief Yasuyuki Yoshinaga told Automotive News, according to Ward's, at the Tokyo Motor Show. "Our engineering department told me that losing the entire roof requires a complete redesign of the structure. It would need a big change."

Despite Yoshinaga-san's arguments against a droptop variant, Toyota is apparently still considering the model. Speaking to media at the 2014 North American International Auto Show, Scion's US vice president, Doug Murtha, hinted that the rear-drive droptop was in the works.

"It's something we're looking at internally from both a manufacturing standpoint - where do we build something that's relatively low-volume, if not at Subaru - and from an engineering standpoint: Where are those resources going to come from to do it?" Murtha said.

For now, it appears as if Toyota is merely doing its homework on the feasibility of a production version of the FT-86 Open Concept from the 2013 Geneva and Tokyo shows (show above). "Everybody's had to pony up their volumes and we'll see if we can make it happen," Murtha told Wards.

Whether the volumes check out or not, the question of how Toyota will get around the engineering issues - making a convertible safe - and figuring out where to build it, mean that while our hopes for an FR-S Convertible are higher, the car still faces a rather rocky road before reaching production.


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      DJ_Swammi
      • 10 Months Ago
      How was a convertible version not engineered into this car from the outset? That's criminal negligence...
      malgu
      • 10 Months Ago
      I questioned how good it could be but then realized that the Miata is a convertible
      Lynchenstein
      • 10 Months Ago
      Business case: Miata killer. Done.
      JonZeke
      • 10 Months Ago
      Targa! Now that Porsche has the Targa back, and the Ferrari and McLaren "convertibles" have targa-esque elements to their designs (due to the high double cowls on both behind the seats) I think the zeitgeist is more about that sport roof-off moment than a pure convertible. Of course a pure convertible could be interesting, but with the standard power to weight of the current coupe matching a current MX5, it would start down that slippery slope of boulevard-ier once the structural weight is added back in. Plus it would likely get luxury features which would increase weight further. But a well-engineered removable roof system? I think the public interest for removable lightweight tops would fit the performance mindset of these cars to a T-top... ...Sorry, had to.
      waetherman
      • 10 Months Ago
      At this point I have to agree- it's hard to make a business case for a convertible. It should have been designed with that in mind in the first place (I mean, c'mon, it is named the BRZ afterall) but reengineering it now would add cost and weight to a car that is already more expensive and heavier than a Miata. And with the next gen Miata around the corner, who knows what they'll be up against. Would a convertible BRZ with 200HP and weighing in at 2900 lbs taken some sales away from Miata last year or this year? Probably at least a little. Would the same costing $30,000 even be competitive? Probably not.
      Phil
      • 10 Months Ago
      Another vote for a Targa! A traditional manually removed panel, please. Not the stupidity that Porsche came up with.
      Tourian
      • 10 Months Ago
      So Subaru calls the shots on this JV? Toyota can't write a big enough check to convince them?
      Merc1
      • 10 Months Ago
      Why can't they do a uplevel engine (i.e. a turbo) and the convertible and just sell it for a premium?! The convertible is gorgeous, but the coupe needs more power. M
      al4gg10
      • 10 Months Ago
      Please just offer a SUNROOF in the FR-S ! Don't want the Big extra convertible weight onto the chassis, but a SUNROOF to let the sun / wind thru the cabin .... that is a must have for me !
      WindsWilling
      • 10 Months Ago
      They should have made it a Targa from the get go like everyone asked for. Heck, they should have made it a turbo-4 with 300hp that everyone asked for when it was found out they couldn't meet their initial weight target for the car. Sounds like Toyota is trying to turn it into a pure sales point car now. They thought this thing would set the performance world on fire and despite the best efforts of shoddy/shady journalists from here an other outlets, it didn't. Toyota is still a boring brand. That is why they're bringing the Supra back quicker than expected. Can't wait for Toyota to slap a SCION badge right next to "SUPRA TURBO" here in the states... LOLYOTA.
      carguy1701
      • 10 Months Ago
      While a convertible model would help sales (despite being more expensive), I wouldn't buy one, simply because chassis flex is no ones friend, plus I'm not really a vert man.
      Ron
      • 10 Months Ago
      Dear Toyoto & Subaru, We don't care about a convertible. What we want is a 350+ hp version of this car w/ good brakes, forged wheels, flared wider fenders, and wide meaty tires. Oh... and since the base car is so overpriced as it is.. it shouldn't add that much money.
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