It's not like most Tesla Model S owners are hard-pressed for cash, but it's still got to be nice to know they can get across the country in their all-electric luxury hatchbacks for free. Father-daughter team John and Jill (no last names given) just finished what's being called the first coast-to-coast Model S trip powered completely by the company's Supercharger network. Tesla just completed installing the Superchargers and CEO Elon Musk tweeted just yesterday that the network was energized. The company unveiled its first Supercharger in September 2012, and Musk says he will finally take his long-promised Model S family road trip this spring.

But now someone's beat him to the headlines. The pioneering duo finished its New York-to-Los Angeles trip January 25, logging about 3,600 miles in the process. Additional miles were required since father John started his trip in Kentucky before picking up daughter Jill in New York. Tesla says it has 71 free North American Superchargers and that its network is reachable by about 80 percent of the continent's population. The important number that makes that possible is that the 85-kWh version of the Model S can go 265 miles on a single charge. WIRED says John and Jill hit up 28 Superchargers over the course of a week.

Naturally, fellow Tesla owners who posted on a rather long forum thread describing the trip were enthused, effusively comparing the team to Lewis and Clark. The news could spur more sales to the California-based automaker, which finished last year with a flourish of sorts. Tesla sold about 6,900 units of the Model S in October, November and December, beating the company's own target and making the Model S the country's best-selling plug-in vehicle for the fourth quarter.


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      sforza209
      • 10 Months Ago
      I wonder what the resale value is for a used Tesla Model S? Has anyone seen a used one for sale yet?
        Weapon
        • 10 Months Ago
        @sforza209
        There are a few for sale, but the resale value is pretty high. Tesla cars tend to have pretty high resale values. Even a 5 year old Tesla Roadster goes for a decent amount.
        Rotation
        • 10 Months Ago
        @sforza209
        Resale on Teslas is not very good, like any other EV. Technology is just advancing too fast.
          Grendal
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Rotation
          Pretty close to other luxury sedans though from what I've seen. The high end has a lot more room to drop than at the low end. The best deals I've seen are from fairly affluent buyers that are upgrading to the P85+ and are unloading their first car at a low price to get the new one.
        bluepongo1
        • 10 Months Ago
        @sforza209
        ebay usually has a few. Good luck!
        Gator
        • 10 Months Ago
        @sforza209
        Like a cell phone.
      Rotation
      • 10 Months Ago
      Now that's progress. No more of the silly "I drove cross country in an EV" when you mean you had a charger connected to a fossil-fueled genset following behind you. Now, Tesla, please hook up NorCal!.
        Nick Kordich
        • 10 Months Ago
        @Rotation
        Well, we've got a Supercharger at Vacaville/The Nut Tree now that opened December 20th - I'm looking forward to using that on trips out to the coast: http://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger/vacaville Tesla's currently working on a Roseville Supercharger at the Galleria (off Highway 65, which is about a mile off I-80). It's the easiest place to kill half an hour, but it will be a nightmare leading up to Christmas. That's the second dot that overlaps the Folsom Supercharger (though in reality it's about 20 minutes to get from the Folsom one on Hwy50 to the Galleria on Hwy65). That seems to be the only other one that they've got in the works as Coming Soon. The next two after that look like somewhere on the 101 (between Santa Rosa and Ukiah) and Stockton. There's no Reno or Tahoe SC on the map, even going out to 2015, but you can use Jack Bower's Tesla charger at 9855 Double R Blvd, Reno, NV 89521 - it's not a Supercharger, but it goes up to 80A if you have dual chargers.
          Nick Kordich
          • 10 Months Ago
          @Nick Kordich
          More charger news for Northern California - chargers going in at Point Reyes and along the coast: http://www.petaluma360.com/article/20140128/ARTICLES/140129560/1033/news
      Letstakeawalk
      • 10 Months Ago
      Congrats, saw their pics on Twitter!
      Joeviocoe
      • 10 Months Ago
      With the plethora of RV parking... 10KW power is easy to come by.
      Marco Polo
      • 10 Months Ago
      @ AndY1 Shhhh...oh damn, for a moment there I almost had him convinced to try it out !
      scott3
      • 10 Months Ago
      The roadster uses a different charger so they had to hire a electrician to install a model S unit. Sorry this is Michigan, Ohio and PA so there not a Bazillion L2 chargers either.
      Chase
      • 10 Months Ago
      Meanwhile a few hundred thousand people also did that this year in old fashioned cars. Why is this a celebration?
        rboote
        • 2 Days Ago
        @Chase
        Because it's the first time a standard production electric car has done so? It's a harbinger of things to come, and really, really important progress for alternative fuels. What a stupid question.
          Grendal
          • 2 Days Ago
          @rboote
          It's not for him, it's for someone else that also doesn't understand.
          Sir Duke
          • 2 Days Ago
          @rboote
          What was really crazy, is that you replied to this fool.
        jeff
        • 2 Days Ago
        @Chase
        It is a celebration because it most likely represents the future of long distance personal transportation that can easily be accomplished on renewable (and domestic) energy...
        • 2 Days Ago
        @Chase
        Because this was a first for this particular vehicle. Why is this such a hard thing to swallow, that people have to bully them so hard? Is it not a feat that they've built 85 or so Superchargers around the world in around 500 days? And now people can actually use them actively at no extra cost. With fuel prices almost at $9/gallon here, I'd jump at the chance to drive around without racking up a terrible fuel bill. Not that I could afford a Model S right now, as its base price is $123,000 here. The haters just cannot get their act together; first it's the lack of chargers that's the problem and now that there are quite a few of them (in addition to Tesla's own network and Tesla owners' voluntary network), the problem is reversed, "why would anyone drive from coast to coast?" etc. Meh, really? I know this hype is irritating to some, but they're creating jobs for you guys in the US, a LOT of jobs in the long run. They're building the world's largest battery factory there, in addition to expanding the manufacturing plants and Supercharger network as well as a solar power grid for them. I though Americans enjoyed seeing their own succeed?
          Grendal
          • 2 Days Ago
          Some people are afraid of change. Any change.
        Michael Kostukov
        • 2 Days Ago
        @Chase
        Let me answer your question with another question. How many of those "few hundred thousand" people have done so without paying A CENT for the fuel during the trip? No one? Here is one difference. That is - if you don't find the fact that this is the first time a production electric car has done such trip in the history of humanity important enough.
        rubley00
        • 2 Days Ago
        @Chase
        Its Jan 28, 2014. You're saying "a few hundred thousand" people drove coast-to-coast in the last 28 days?? Let's say you meant the prior 12 months. You're on crack. I'm 41 and I've only known 1 person who drove coast-to-coast in my life. Its an exceedingly rare event.
          • 2 Days Ago
          @rubley00
          My boss has driven across the US now 3 or so times. He's a Finn though and flies out there with his family just for road trips. Just thought I'd mention that it's not that rare, even if it's very common. I'd love to do that as well.
          Moreno636
          • 2 Days Ago
          @rubley00
          So because your boss likes to do it means its common? What kind of idiotic logic is that?
        j
        • 2 Days Ago
        @Chase
        Meanwhile, a few thousand people did this on horseback this year using old fashioned hay. Why are a few cars driven by a handful of rich guys any cause for celebration?
        Actionable Mango
        • 2 Days Ago
        @Chase
        That trip would cost me $600 in gasoline. These guys refueled for free. And eventually the fuel will come from the sun.
          Moreno636
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Actionable Mango
          They did no such thing don't be a moron.
          Actionable Mango
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Actionable Mango
          I understand what you are saying, "there's no such thing as a free lunch". But many people bought Teslas before the Supercharger network existed, so for them the price was always just for the car. Free supercharging after that fact is pure gravy. Moreno, I'm sorry you feel the need to insult people. Perhaps you can get off Autoblog and go play the playground.
          Letstakeawalk
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Actionable Mango
          "These guys refueled for free." Not really. They paid for it in the cost of their Tesla.
      scott3
      • 10 Months Ago
      Car and Driver page 67 Feb issue just had a story with a Model S and a Model T race from Detroit to Tesla's home in Long Island. The Tesla won by an hour even though the Model T had to take back roads. Since there were no superchargers on the route the Tesla has to rely on a company who was owned buy a Tesla owner for the first charge point and they had to pay $1200 to put a charger in a Roadster owners home to find anywhere in between to charge up. So while it may be progress there is still a long way to go will millions of dollars of investment in Superchargers to make this viable on a normal scale.
        Weapon
        • 10 Months Ago
        @scott3
        Actually, the drive happened in October, a lot more superchargers are now up since then. The Model T only traveled 60 miles more than the Model S. Considering the mph it traveled at, it would have been impossible for the Model T to have made it even if they took the same roads.
          Joeviocoe
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Weapon
          --"This also did not count the mechanical failures and repairs of the Model T. If it had not broken down it.." --"You have to use all the facts not just the ones that work in your favor of the Model S." Then you must also take into account that the Model T was not designed to travel 765 miles non-stop. Back in 1915... a 250 mile trip, was considered a newsworthy long distance road trip. http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/counties/inyo/road-trip-los-angeles-aqueduct-1915-boom-magazine.html Anyone in 1915 would not have been surprised the Model T needed a few maintenance stops to go 765 miles. --------------------------- The whole stunt is a back-handed way to deride Tesla... by saying that, for all its technology, the Model S is about as practical as a 100 year old design. Bottom line, it is crap journalism.
          scott3
          • 10 Months Ago
          @Weapon
          Yes there are more Superchargers but still not all in the right spots yet. Like I said more investment is needed and it has to keep pace if they plan on increasing sales as people do not like to wait now and if they end up third in line 5 years from now. They do not like waiting for a gas pump now. The fact that the 99 year old Model T nearly eclipsed the Model S and only lost by an hour. This also did not count the mechanical failures and repairs of the Model T. If it had not broken down it would have beaten the Model S even on the longer path. You have to use all the facts not just the ones that work in your favor of the Model S. It is time we all get off this the Model S is great or horrible BS and just call this car as it is. It has shown there is a market but it has to have more investment and lower prices and the ability to take the average Joe where he wants to go when he wants to go and not have to plan on when and where he has to recharge. We will see that at some point but the reality is we are not there yet. The point here is I do not condem this car for what it has accomplished and see it as a path to a solid future market. But on the other hand I do not accept the blind fans who make silly claims that at this point are just not true. A little honesty on both sides here would do everyone some good.
        edward.stallings
        • 10 Months Ago
        @scott3
        Funny! Electrics have a looooooong way to go to be useful as a primary car to most active people. In more rural areas and across most of the country, the model T would be a better choice. Sad, but true. Autoblog greenies have their heads pretty deep in the sand, so prepare for downvotes -lol. I bet I win with more!
          Joeviocoe
          • 10 Months Ago
          @edward.stallings
          You do realize where most of the population lives, right? Hint: it ain't rural.
          jeff
          • 10 Months Ago
          @edward.stallings
          And yet about 600 people smart enough to earn a significant income and afford a Model S prove you wrong every week...
          Grendal
          • 10 Months Ago
          @edward.stallings
          Your sad rants always forget that no one is forced to buy an EV. If the car doesn't fit your driving needs then there are plenty of gas cars still available for those rare individuals. More than likely the Model S fits the driving style and needs of 90% of the population. This race, just like you, harps on the one slight weakness that an EV has over a gas car. I could just as easily create a race against a turbo Porsche 911, Ferrari, or Cadillac where the Model S makes them look silly. What's the point? They use a different drivetrain and there are strengths and weaknesses in each. Once the Superchargers are all in place then that one weakness almost goes away.
        GoodCheer
        • 10 Months Ago
        @scott3
        "there were no superchargers" Well, there are now. Now you'd make it just a couple of hours later than any other modern car (assuming both S and its competition stick to speed limits). You could re-create the result by picking some other route where there still arn't superchargers, but in another year... you'd need to pick a yet more obscure route. Feel free to chase yourself into a corner with your "there is still a long way to go". Though to your credit, you do correctly define your "long way" as "millions of dollars of investment in Superchargers".
          GoodCheer
          • 2 Days Ago
          @GoodCheer
          "How obscure is Oh and PA on Route interstate 80?" Not obscure at all. That's why it was one of the priority corridors for Superchargers, and why they're now there. "The fact is the average driver does not have a couple hours to give on most 8 hour trips." Source? I disagree. If you're driving a 500 mile trip instead of flying, it's almost certain that you have a couple of extra hours. While some people might occasionally drive all day, eat in the car, only stop for fuel, pee breaks, and beef jerky, I reject your assertion that that's "the average driver".
          Joeviocoe
          • 2 Days Ago
          @GoodCheer
          Scott... you are out of touch with the "average buyer". The "average" person doesn't even take cross country road trips... they fly.
          scott3
          • 2 Days Ago
          @GoodCheer
          How obscure is Oh and PA on Route interstate 80? This is the main route between NYC, Pittsburg Cleveland, Akron, Toledo, Chicago etc. It is one of the most population dense areas of the country. The fact is the average driver does not have a couple hours to give on most 8 hour trips. There are no corners here just facts. This car is not yet ready for the average buyer. Like stated above it is on the path to helping establish a market segment but it is only one step on the way. There is a lot more money to spend and invest. Technology to developed and improvements that can and will be made. So please if you want to be taken more seriously by other then try to be more honest. This car is not the final answer but it will help lead to a better answer. So stop the fan boy BS and be honest. I have tries to present both sides here to be honest you should try it as you may just be more creditable.
        m_2012
        • 10 Months Ago
        @scott3
        A roadster owner didn't have a charger? And why not stop at the bazillion public L2 chargers along the way?
        2 wheeled menace
        • 10 Months Ago
        @scott3
        Lol, who owned a home and didn't charge their electric car in it ?? wtf?
      benjamin_braddock
      • 10 Months Ago
      Great news! Really need Tesla to start producing a bigger variety of models. Desperately need a Leaf rival!
        Feurig
        • 10 Months Ago
        @benjamin_braddock
        More like Leaf killer. The Leaf's only advantage right now is price.
          Rotation
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Feurig
          I mean, let me put it like this. 0.3% of cars sold in California were EVs last year (I think). If that rises to 1%, then the i3 and Model E can add one tens of thousands of sales per year and the LEAF still doesn't lose any sales. And there is plenty of room to grow above 1% too. And in other states, it's well below 0.3% to start too.
          Grendal
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Feurig
          Nah. Nissan will adjust and still hold the low end market. People will not cross shop the Leaf versus the Model E just like no one cross shops a Versa against a BMW 3 series.
          Rotation
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Feurig
          The i3 is more of a threat to the LEAF. And I think there's room for both of those AND Tesla too.
          Grendal
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Feurig
          I totally agree with Rotation. The i3 is much more a threat to the Leaf and it still won't be a killer. Both will survive just fine and why not? There a millions of gas cars on the road that need to be replaced. That leaves plenty of room for everybody to succeed. The early bird and all that...
        Grendal
        • 10 Months Ago
        @benjamin_braddock
        That probably won't happen for a long time - maybe never. Tesla has the Model X (S platform CUV) 2014, Model E (smaller sedan/hatchback) 2017, Model Y (smaller CUV) 2018?, New Roadster, and Truck that have been talked about. There is no room for a Leaf competitor. By the time Tesla gets around to even making the attempt which would only be around 2022, the Leaf will be in its 3rd or 4th incarnation and will probably be a pretty spectacular EV in its own right with plenty of range. Why bother unless Nissan is failing horribly and I just don't see that happening. All the major manufacturers will have their own smaller EV too since that seems to be the market they are all fighting for. Tesla will continue to make upscale EVs that are competitive with nicer upscale cars and highlighting the strength of an EV over a gas burner.
          Grendal
          • 10 Months Ago
          @Grendal
          Close but it is still trying to be close to an average upscale sedan. Tesla has always compared the Model E to the BMW 3 series.
          JB
          • 10 Months Ago
          @Grendal
          The Model E is close to the average price of a new car.
          Joeviocoe
          • 10 Months Ago
          @Grendal
          Grendal is right... the Leaf already is $10k cheaper than the Model E... and might be even cheaper by 2017. That price gap means they don't directly compete. Plus, the performance and styling will likely rival the BMW 3 series (and probably accelerate like an M3)
      Marco Polo
      • 10 Months Ago
      Great achievement ! Congratulations to Elon Musk and the entire Tesla team (and intrepid owners).
      Levine Levine
      • 10 Months Ago
      Goodbye SAE and CHAdeMo. Hello, Tesla connector standard.
        skierpage
        • 2 Days Ago
        @Levine Levine
        Tesla might license the connector and electronic protocol to other manufacturers, and sell Supercharger electricity to non-Tesla EVs. But it would be a big distraction from making cars and delighting Tesla owners.
      Dean Hammond
      • 10 Months Ago
      PRETTY COOL. Now it would be nice if tesla installed diners, ( Starbucks maybe ) at each station so customers could relax and perhaps eat for the time it takes the car to recharge..
        Weapon
        • 10 Months Ago
        @Dean Hammond
        There are dining facilities next to each superchargers. Do some superchargers do come with free cofee and wifi.
        thedriveatfive
        • 10 Months Ago
        @Dean Hammond
        Not only diners, free wireless internet.
          John Hansen
          • 10 Months Ago
          @thedriveatfive
          That's a really good idea, with or without the diner. I would imagine that a certain number of people will wait in the car instead of going into a restaurant. Since the super chargers already have internet connections, it would bey trivial to add a wireless router with a 20 foot range so that anybody sitting at the supercharger could get wifi. It's an almost free perk for Tesla to offer their customers. Good thinking!
          Grendal
          • 10 Months Ago
          @thedriveatfive
          I'm pretty sure the cars are Wi-Fi connections now. It's definitely planned if it hasn't already been implemented.
          ElectricAvenue
          • 10 Months Ago
          @thedriveatfive
          @Grendal: if you're asking "can the car connect with WiFi" - yes, it can. In fact, it automatically does, based on GPS position. i.e. when you're parked at home the Internet connection will be via your home's WiFi. I think there's a setting to disable this, I can't remember.
        Grendal
        • 10 Months Ago
        @Dean Hammond
        Most (nearly all) are sitting next to restaurants and restroom facilities.
          Grendal
          • 10 Months Ago
          @Grendal
          You can always play on the internet using your huge screen. I know you can't surf while you are moving but when you are stopped and charging...
          Dean Hammond
          • 10 Months Ago
          @Grendal
          very smart....people aren't known for having the greatest patience, and just doing nothing whilst charging would annoy some...
        2 wheeled menace
        • 10 Months Ago
        @Dean Hammond
        In soviet America, diners should install charging stations... :)
          Spec
          • 10 Months Ago
          @2 wheeled menace
          Who are these people voting down Yakov Smirnoff humor?
        j0nny5
        • 10 Months Ago
        @Dean Hammond
        I'm actually surprised they *haven't* done this... it could be a good revenue stream and a way to create at least 5 - 10 jobs per supercharger location... that would be 355 - 710 new jobs in one fell swoop, and Tesla owners could be treated to "VIP" services, like spa-type stuff, or at least coffee and comfy couches.
        Spec
        • 10 Months Ago
        @Dean Hammond
        Oh, I'm sure Tesla uses the business that the chargers will bring as a way to get cheap leases in order to install the equipment. If you knew that installing a super-charger nearly your restaurant would bring several captive Tesla drivers, wouldn't you lease some land to Tesla for a low-rate?
          Letstakeawalk
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Spec
          Do you have any evidence of this? Just curious.
          Letstakeawalk
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Spec
          No money changes hands at all, apparently. "Again monetarily, land owners pay nothing to Tesla, and receive nothing from Tesla. The property owner basically gets the high profile status and draw of the Tesla Supercharger network, and Tesla gets use of the location." http://insideevs.com/tech-crunch-what-it-takes-to-be-a-tesla-supercharger-partner/
          Dean Hammond
          • 2 Days Ago
          @Spec
          Well, if the connector becomes universal for ALL plug ins, it wont just be tesla owners attracted to the stations, and perhaps some way of charging alternate makes and models ( ie non tesla plug ins ) could be devised...
        edward.stallings
        • 10 Months Ago
        @Dean Hammond
        Sad commentary on Tesla; the wait required before you can resume your drive. Just think how it would be if there were enough stupid people to make them popular and the lines were real long. They might have to build a motel at each station.
          Joeviocoe
          • 2 Days Ago
          @edward.stallings
          Edward represents the auto industry and their dealership franchises. He was personally offended by Tesla's audacity to take on the dealership associations. I wouldn't take anything he says as sincere argument.
          Dean Hammond
          • 2 Days Ago
          @edward.stallings
          sorry to disappoint some, only one log on, and not even a pseudonym, I may drive some of you nuts, but I attempt to remain respectful regardless if I dis-agree, pretty hard with some nut jobs, several which seem to be avid Tesla fans....ractym for example....
          jeff
          • 2 Days Ago
          @edward.stallings
          And yet about 600 of the more successfully people in the country buy one every week. I guess these highly successful people just can't see the future as well as you....
          Joeviocoe
          • 2 Days Ago
          @edward.stallings
          Or was that Dean... I get confused since they write as if they're the same person it seems
          Joeviocoe
          • 2 Days Ago
          @edward.stallings
          okay, fair enough. Just had to be sure ;) Thanks for confirming Dean that you are not edward.
          Grendal
          • 2 Days Ago
          @edward.stallings
          Dean is a dealer. He is not a troll. He is willing to have a discussion. Edward is a troll. All he ever posts is that an EV can't drive far without pausing to charge. Even if it only half an hour. He's a Troll.
          Marco Polo
          • 2 Days Ago
          @edward.stallings
          @ Joeviocoe edward.stallings represents no one but himself. He's just a fanatic of a different sort.
          Spec
          • 2 Days Ago
          @edward.stallings
          Yeah . . . or they could build more superchargers. Duh.
        Mike
        • 10 Months Ago
        @Dean Hammond
        but Starbucks limits WiFi to 2 hours, what would you do with the other 6 hours?
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