Fans of hardcore 911s had it pretty good with the last 997 generation. There was the GT3, GT3 RS, GT3 RS 4.0, GT2 and GT2 RS (pictured above). Each one was faster, more powerful and more expensive than the one below it, but what they all shared was what Porsche purists love most: rear engine, rear drive, a manual transmission and little else.

So far with the new 991, Porsche has only released a GT3 version. Sure, there have been other models, but they're all decidedly more luxurious and less performance-focused. And as impressive a machine as the new GT3 is, it has run the risk of alienating some of its most ardent fanatics with technological interference in the form of a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission and four-wheel steering. So what those purists have really been looking forward to is a more hardcore GT3 RS or new GT2. But those may not be coming so quickly.

Speaking with 911 project chief August Achleitner, Car and Driver reports that a new GT2 is anything but a foregone conclusion. The reasons may be partially political, but could be technical in nature as well: with 560 horsepower driving all four wheels, the new 911 Turbo S runs the 0-60 in less than three seconds. Give it more power but less traction, as Porsche has done with past GT2s, and you may not end up seeing an actual improvement in performance. A GT2 that's slower than the Turbo S would be difficult to explain.

Achleitner did suggest that there may be some substance to "rumors about a GT3 RS or something like this," but that "to write today that there will be a GT2 in the future would not be correct." So while there might be a more hardcore 911 on the horizon, it remains to be seen what form it will take: turbo or naturally aspirated, manual or dual-clutch, all-wheel drive or rear. All we can say at this point is that we're looking forward to finding out.



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      Justin Shaw
      • 11 Months Ago
      Turbo, manual, and rwd please
      timber
      • 11 Months Ago
      Make it so Porsche I will have mine in yellow And then wake up
        IBx27
        • 11 Months Ago
        @timber
        Speaking in haiku About the subject of cars Is always welcome
      Jason Loy
      • 11 Months Ago
      It's an interesting problem and one that Porsche in particular seems to face often and with a very vocal and passionate audience. Technology is advances and it becomes a matter of embracing it or throwing yourself on the sharper sword it has created. They faced it in the late 90's/early 2000's with the liquid-cooled engines. Now the dual clutch, computer controlled, lightening fast flappy-paddle transmissions are the new razor's edge. There is no longer a question - they outperform a manual transmission. Most people simply cannot shift faster than the new tech. Does that make some once-halo models obsolete? Quite possibly. I would offer a solution, however - go the other direction. Offer back-to-basics,entry-level enthusiast models. Would work great for the Miata, maybe something in the BMW family, Porsche lineup as well. Time to get new buyers in to the fold by offering affordable, basic, but no-less enthusiast oriented products.
      imag
      • 11 Months Ago
      My guess is that the biggest issue is the mid-engined Ferrari fighter that Porsche is working on. The GT2 was Porsche's way to extend their line up into 458/Gallardo territory. Now that they will have a dedicated car between the 911 and the 918, there is no real need to push the 911 any further than the Turbo S, which has gone up in price significantly since the last generation.
      Andrew Ramos
      • 11 Months Ago
      They need to if they want to stand up to the Big Nasty on the track with anything less than the million dollar 918.
      Porsche4life
      • 11 Months Ago
      Next GT2 will be turbo charged flat six with a hybrid system making over 700hp. Watch
      mbukukanyau
      • 11 Months Ago
      Considering you have a Z/28 that can kick their GT3 ass, they have reason to be afraid, given how great their Nemesis Chevrolet has become. Now with Chevrolet Unveiling an automatic shifter that is faster than their fastest DCT, they are officially in real trouble. A fat bloke's sports car company. Imagine this, their GT3 still cannot match the C6 Z06 ferocious performance. At some point, as Porsche, you got to ask yourself what is the point, if you are not going to smack anyone down. The thing is, Porsche is throwing in the Towel.
        CadiVetteFerrari
        • 11 Months Ago
        @mbukukanyau
        Easy, sherlock. I'm as big fan of Corvette and Chevrolet as most, and I would never even think about owning a Porsche, but Porsche has not thrown in any towel and is competitive or exceeds every performance car on the planet, all at different budgets, from the base Cayman/Boxster to the 918. Don't be drinking the kool-aid.
          mbukukanyau
          • 11 Months Ago
          @CadiVetteFerrari
          At some point, they have to be called to account for their lack of performace.
        mbukukanyau
        • 11 Months Ago
        @mbukukanyau
        People let their biases blind them to truth.
      Black Dyanmite
      • 11 Months Ago
      If it will have a manual, yes. If not, who cares? Build a proper sports car, not a Lady Finger computerized toy. BD
        • 11 Months Ago
        @Black Dyanmite
        [blocked]
      sixsix
      • 11 Months Ago
      Why are you not covering the fact that the GT2 is not supposed to be faster 0-60. It's supposed to be more road track oriented. The fastest street car times in the world belong to RWD. Real road course racers want RWD, not AWD. Leave AWD for the fanboys and straight line racers. A RWD GT2 done properly should destroy an AWD Turbo S on the road course. That is the purpose.
      johnnyhedwardsjr
      • 11 Months Ago
      Last generation GT2 wasn't faster than the Turbo S either. So what. That's not the point.
        Hatzenbach
        • 11 Months Ago
        @johnnyhedwardsjr
        it wasn't faster from a stop or in the 1/4 mile due to the lack of awd and PDC, but the Turbo is no competition for the GT2 on a dry racetrack. It's funny that your comment got upvoted because asking about the point of a lightwight rwd forced induction version of the 911 is actually quite mindless
      ken
      • 11 Months Ago
      That's exactly why LFA went back to the drawing board for so many times. For any cars above 500hp, AWD becomes a necessity.
        Chris O.
        • 11 Months Ago
        @ken
        McLaren, Ferrari, and GM would beg to differ.
        cartarded
        • 11 Months Ago
        @ken
        Have you really forgotten essentially every racing league? Australian V8s, Formula 1, Grand Prix, so on and so on. Not to mention several companies (GM, Ford, Koenigsegg, Pagani, Mercedes, etc...)
        wickedsc300
        • 11 Months Ago
        @ken
        LFA went back because it was too heavy using just aluminum so they went back and made it 65% carbon fiber.
      cd
      • 11 Months Ago
      There's more to life than 0-60 times. In fact, the way I know someone talking about cars doesn't know anything about cars is when they cite 0-60.
        sparrk
        • 11 Months Ago
        @cd
        Maybe they have prepared something really special for the facelift 991 Turbo S (some advanced torque vectoring and reduced weight) and they know a RWD 911 will never match its performance in both a straight line and on the track. But if they really don't make a a GT2 or a GT3 RS, i hope they make something like a Turbo GTS, a more track focuses, less luxury, more lightness 911 turbo.
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