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VL Automotive is closely tied up with Fisker. The company's first product, the Destino, is a converted Karma and the Destino Red Concept, just unveiled at the Detroit Auto Show, is the same hardtop Karma convertible that Fisker showed in 2009. So, what a surprise it was to see that Bob Lutz, who owns half of VL Automotive, is ready to convert a brand new electric vehicle: the Tesla Model S. A gas-powered Tesla? Say what?

A gas-powered Tesla? Say what?

That's at least one way to read this short article in The Detroit News. There's not a lot of context and a distinct lack of details, so we're left wondering if maybe Lutz just meant that Model S owners can buy a Destino. You can read the exchange for yourself here.

What we do know is that Lutz said that VL Automotive has already sold nine Destino conversions. The cars cost $200,000, up from the previous estimate of $180,000, and well above the $116,000 max price tag on the original Karma. For your money, you get a 6.2-liter V8 taken from a Chevrolet Corvette that puts out 636 horsepower and can beat the 135-mile-per-hour top speed that the Karma has. Lutz said that all could add up to sales of around 200 or 300 Destinos each year.


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      John
      • 1 Year Ago
      If Lutz said it, it's guaranteed to be hot air.
      BipDBo
      • 1 Year Ago
      Original article: Will the conversion be available to Tesla Model S owners? “Yes,” Lutz said. No, He's not converting Teslas. That's idiotic. He's just saying that yes, Tesla owners can buy a Destino.
      • 1 Year Ago
      What would be really cool is the model s drive train in the fisker body
      m_2012
      • 1 Year Ago
      Please stop with the misleading headlines! Who checks this crap? VL has no intention of doing conversions on Model S, and even if they did, it cannot be done. A main structural piece, the battery, would need to be removed. Fuel tank, exhaust plumbing, etc.
      eric.sales
      • 1 Year Ago
      The same Bob Clutz who said the remake of the GTO will do better than the original......
      GR
      • 1 Year Ago
      This is literally retarded. Taking a more advanced propulsion technology and reverting it to an internal combustion engine running on fossil fuels is really a step backwards. Also, aren't there enough large displacement V8's in the world?
        CoolWaters
        • 1 Year Ago
        @GR
        They like old TECH, look how their fawning over inferior 1920's light bulbs. Being 70 and senile has it's disadvantages.
        BipDBo
        • 1 Year Ago
        @GR
        The Destino makes sense because the Fisker Karma had a great design, but it's propulsion system was a total piece of crap. Tesla has a great propulsion system and the company is doing well. Lutz isn't doing anything stupid like hacking up perfectly good Teslas. Auto journalists are just trolling with this non-story.
      Matt Brown
      • 1 Year Ago
      It would without a doubt make the car worse, but I would love to see the conversion done by someone, if just for novelty sake.
        The Wasp
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Matt Brown
        While we're at it, I'd love to see a Nissan Leaf, Scion iQ, MINI-E (whatever it's called), BMW Active3Hybrid (same) with large, 600hp V8 engines. I don't think there is a strong business case for such a venture.
      offib
      • 1 Year Ago
      From the man who brought us VIA Motors and the Volt, I'm proverbially baffled to why Destino exists. The best thing about it is that it has a shape of a Fisker, but its grill, bonnet and paint makes it look like a toy, or a Chinese rip off that copied its design.
      Barry
      • 1 Year Ago
      Well Bob you just defeated the whole purpose of Tesla. Fisker just went toes up, why don't you buy it and make the Fisker a V8 powered car? I'd rather see it sold to an American company than Chinese.
      danfred311
      • 1 Year Ago
      The man is stupid but probably not that stupid.
      waitwhut
      • 1 Year Ago
      that too..
      Michaele
      • 1 Year Ago
      What is with Lutz? Is he really a historical figure in the Auto industry or just a top grade entertainer who should quiet down and fade into the background lest he destroy his legacy? I think behind closed doors people laugh at him and make Lutz jokes on a regular basis. Has he had any real winners over the last 10-15 years or has he just done a really great job of parlaying his past into the PR of his present? Help me understand this.
        Marcopolo
        • 8 Months Ago
        @Michaele
        @ Michaele Maybe, it's just people like you who are the objects of journalists tomfoolery ? Why not take 10 minutes of you time and research Bob Lutz. His failures, and his many achievements. Bob Lutz is still highly regarded among, not only his peers, but a wide rage of younger pioneering engineers and EV entrepreneurs. People who laugh at others behind closed doors, do so, because they are afraid to have their envy exposed.
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