The US will soon work with China as the world's most populous nation works to draft stricter emissions standards. The two countries certainly know how to put pollution into the air – China is the world's biggest emitter polluter, followed by the US.

The announcement was made during a visit Vice President Joe Biden recently made to China. According to Reuters, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Energy will work with the Asian nation on its so-called China VI standards. These regulations will, among other things, require cars to have filters that capture particulate matter.

The legislation is slated to follow the China IV standards, which included diesel regulations that reduced engines' maximum-allowable sulfur content by a factor of seven, along with China V, which will bring sulfur content down by another 80 percent by 2017. Once China reaches that level, it will be lower than current US standards.

Just in time, too. Vehicle ownership in China is expected to jump to more than 200 million by the end of the decade, way up from 120 million estimated at the end of 2012. Earlier this year, a number of Chinese government entities pushed for fuel economy standards that would require a fleetwide 34 miles per gallon average by 2015 as part of the country's first-ever fuel-economy mandate.


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      sheepszies
      • 1 Year Ago
      So...The world's second biggest emitter is supposed to help the world's biggest emitter...emit less? This is like the guy that comes in last place in a race asking the guy that came in 2nd to last for help to win the next race.
        Ryan
        • 1 Year Ago
        @sheepszies
        Since a lot of the deniers in the US say they won't do anything to reduce their pollution since it doesn't matter because of China... Yes, taking away the right-wing talking point is a good step in the right direction.
        brotherkenny4
        • 1 Year Ago
        @sheepszies
        The weirdest thing about China is that they had no vested interest in coal and oil, and could have taken a different path. They didn't however, and thus it is apparent they are extremely stupid and only capable of emulation.
          2 wheeled menace
          • 1 Year Ago
          @brotherkenny4
          Incorrect. The government owns a monopoly on oil production, refinement, transport, etc. Go read about the company 'sinopec'. Sinopec, by the way, produces gasoline which is twice as dirty as what we get out of Chevron, Shell, BP, etc.. due to their awful and dated refinement process.
          axiomatik
          • 1 Year Ago
          @brotherkenny4
          China does have a vested interest in coal, that vested interest being the fact that coal is the cheapest source of energy. Before China's massive industrialization, it was a very poor country (per capita). Coal provided the best bang-for-the-buck in powering their industrialization.
        Rex Monaco
        • 1 Year Ago
        @sheepszies
        Yes, they should be working with the nation Niue instead to find out the secret to their success as being the least polluting nation in the world. This is based on UN estimates of CO2 emissions. If we looked at ALL pollutants being released into air, water and land, then I'm certain the USA would fall much further down the list. China would likely still top the list. This UN CO2 listing is much more about the politics of global warming/cooling as opposed actually protecting the people of the world from the affects of pollutants in their environment.
        Luke
        • 1 Year Ago
        @sheepszies
        Well...obviously the guy in front of him did something right...he beat him...right...? Anyone doing something better than you can always offer their strategy. Nothing wrong with that.
      Rotation
      • 1 Year Ago
      The problem in China isn't the rules. The problem is enforcement is very poor. If you have political connections to the local party, they do not enforce the laws against you. Only then once a company polluting becomes a national issue is there significant enforcement. ABG: The US being the 2nd biggest polluter doesn't make sense in this context. That statement is by carbon emissions. But these regulations are about trace emissions. It's about actual noxious compounds like sulfur dioxide, not greenhouse gases.
      Keef
      • 1 Year Ago
      I realize that cars are a big contributor to particulate pollution but they aren't the biggest. I was under the impression that the main reason China's smog is so bad is because of their unchecked reliance on coal for electricity generation. The US uses coal most commonly but unlike the high-quality type which is plentiful here, the stuff in China is poor quality and burns very dirtily. I'm no geologist but this is the main problem I've heard about.
        2 wheeled menace
        • 17 Hours Ago
        @Keef
        China's gasoline is actually twice as dirty than ours, because sinopec ( state-run monopoly on oil production, refinement, transport etc ) uses a refinement process that is in a word, awful and circa 1970's.. Oil has a lot to do with this. Extremely high urban density is another factor in creating the concentrated haze of smog you see in pictures of coastal China.
        Joeviocoe
        • 17 Hours Ago
        @Keef
        Also, Coal plants are not usually in the city... where people live.
      2 wheeled menace
      • 1 Year Ago
      From one nation who exempted themselves from the Kyoto protocol to another.. sounds like the USA wants their #1 polluter position back.. ;)
      EZEE2
      • 1 Year Ago
      Is I me or does everyone smile and chuckle a little seeing 'Biden' in a sentence?
      muspod
      • 1 Year Ago
      just tell them they can't have any more cars. Easy! It's a commiie country.. oh and trash the coal power plants and go nuke.
        superchan7
        • 1 Year Ago
        @muspod
        If it's so easy, why aren't you doing it?
        2 wheeled menace
        • 1 Year Ago
        @muspod
        So, China often produces multiple story buildings which just randomly fall over for no perceptible reason. They have bridges fail often. They are the world's number one manufacturer of poorly constructed or counterfeit goods. Do you really want them building nuclear power plants?
          wendavid99
          • 17 Hours Ago
          @2 wheeled menace
          A quick google shows as of now, China already have 17 nuclear power reactors spread out over 6 separate sites and 32 under construction. China also has the most ambitious programs in the world with plans to have over 80 GWe of installed capacity by 2020, and a further increase to more than 200 GW by 2030.
          superchan7
          • 17 Hours Ago
          @2 wheeled menace
          You're a few decades too late, China's first nuclear plant went online in 1991.
      scott3
      • 1 Year Ago
      Yep I am sure China will just jump right on this because we want them too. LOL! Many of the electric cars will not go there as the companies have to give the China government the intellectual properly of the cars to be permitted to sell them there. Hence no Volts and many other cars. Even Tesla may go but they really have no secrets or major trademarked technology they are using. When China starts cracking down on their plants then we will know they are serious. Cars alone are a drop in the bucket there. As it is now with out coal here we are at a great disadvantage and I do not see them giving it up.
      groingo
      • 1 Year Ago
      THAT is laughable.
        VDuB
        • 1 Year Ago
        @groingo
        Explain yourself. Why are you laughing?
        Seal Rchin
        • 1 Year Ago
        @groingo
        It is, as if some political appointee who knows nothing about science and someone who has never held a job has anything to teach a Chinese engineer. Modern USA
          axiomatik
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Seal Rchin
          The US is worse per capita because we drive everywhere, and own giant homes that we heat and cool. And yet our skies are much cleaner than China's.
          2 wheeled menace
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Seal Rchin
          We are actually a lot worse in emissions per capita than China. I agree that it is absurd that we are telling them to clean up their act. Although there is a lot of low hanging fruit that they can take advantage of to clean up the smog. They should pick it.
          icemilkcoffee
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Seal Rchin
          You are just sore because nobody ever asks you republicans to help them reduce pollution.
      Grendal
      • 1 Year Ago
      Is it really cars that are the problem or is it millions of mopeds and small motorcycles? With absolutely no regulations people will use those machines well past their normal life until they spew pollutants into the air. We still have a few of those in the US too. Old trucks driving along with clouds of smoke coming out of the tailpipes. It's getting more and more rare though.
      Willy
      • 1 Year Ago
      If we combined forces, can we call out Captain Planet?! It is good progress to combat global warming; it's better for everyone. Although I wish we have a more standardized safety and emissions. So we can see some oddball cars in these shores.
      Cool Disco Dan
      • 1 Year Ago
      China needs to reduce pollution but making new rules wont help. The ones who are honest will be driven out of production and those who aren't will just pay the party to look the other way.
      jebibudala
      • 1 Year Ago
      Does China really want to venture down the road of a communist society?
        2 wheeled menace
        • 1 Year Ago
        @jebibudala
        Um... history? You know that they exited communism in the last few decades and still have many of it's traits, right?
          Jobu
          • 17 Hours Ago
          @2 wheeled menace
          @superchan- dude, it's nice to see English speaking folks like yourselves buying the Communist line of "we are no longer communists" but in reality the point was that China isn't free. It's not, by the way, and I've been there several times.
          Jobu
          • 17 Hours Ago
          @2 wheeled menace
          Hey two wheeled historian- when exactly did China "exit" out of communism? "I can't wait to run for office in China," said no politician not a member of the Communist Party in 60 years.........
          JakeY
          • 17 Hours Ago
          @2 wheeled menace
          @Jobu China's no longer a communist nation since Deng Xiaoping moved the nation to capitalism (more accurate term is "state capitalism") in the late 1970s. As superchan7 points out, the one party rule is a different issue. They still call themselves the "communist" party, but it's really in name only.
          Joeviocoe
          • 17 Hours Ago
          @2 wheeled menace
          They've been more and more accepting of capitalism... and their economy has grown because of it. However, they still have a directed economy. So they have a hybrid of sorts. But it used to be a lot worse, where any economics student would be able to identify China as a full communist economy without looking at the name. Now, they have a lot of capitalism in certain aspects.
          superchan7
          • 17 Hours Ago
          @2 wheeled menace
          China began a decades-long process of exiting Communism as an economic system in 1979. A non-CCP member being excluded from politics is not a trait of Communism; it's a trait of one-party rule which is a different issue. A true Marxist/Communist would roll in his grave looking at China in today's state.
        Jobu
        • 1 Year Ago
        @jebibudala
        Don't worry man, I got your sarcasm... Good one. It is sad that a totalitarian regime is looking to what used to be a free country to see how to really turn the screws on people.
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