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Salt shakers at the ready, boys and girls. There's a rumor out of Australia claiming the next Honda CR-Z will be based on the forthcoming 276-horsepower, turbocharged Civic Type R. Apparently Honda's research and development bigwigs have been unnerved by the reception of the Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ twins and are eager to return fire.

Now, don't get too excited - Honda isn't following the Volkswagen model of offering virtually unchanged mechanicals in a different bodyshell (Beetle Turbo and GTI, for example). Instead, the report says the future CR-Z will retain its hybrid powertrain, albeit with a serious kick in the pants. A prototype is said to already be zipping around Japan with a turbocharged, direct-injected, 1.5-liter, four-cylinder engine and the current CR-Z's electric motor and battery pack. With a reported 221 horsepower mated up to a seven-speed, dual-clutch transmission (say buh-bye to the CVT and six-speed manual) and the next-gen Civic platform underneath, the rumored CR-Z has all the makings of a hot hatch riot.

Of course, this all sounds wonderful. This is also the point where you should be enjoying that salt. We really like the idea of a properly hot CR-Z that can compete with John Cooper Works Mini models and the new Ford Fiesta ST, but the three-door hybrid has been such a slow seller for Honda in the US that it might not field a second generation here, no matter how improved it might be. Let us know what you think of an amped-up CR-Z in the comments. Is it a good idea, or is this one Honda model that's just too far gone?


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      shyu0622
      • 1 Year Ago
      Should've done it right the first time. Better late than never though.
      HH
      • 1 Year Ago
      Nice rumor. I think the *current* CR-Z would be a great car with another 25 horses and a retuned suspension. The potential is there but IMA is the handicap.
      A_Guy
      • 1 Year Ago
      As an extremely satisfied owner of a 6MT CR-Z (first Honda), I'm eager to hear more about this. This car wasn't super popular here in the States, but it was ahead of the pack for making a "sporty" fun-to-drive hybrid. We're seeing hybrid tech come in many forms now. Can't wait to see the next CR-Z and other hybrid sport cars.
      Pinhead
      • 1 Year Ago
      I had an '85 CRX Si. It was very simply the most exciting, engaging car that I have ever owned, and probably in the top 3 cars I've ever driven in terms of just plain being exciting to drive. The car was insanely fun. Best steering ever (well, I have driven go karts and a single seat race car - it wasn't that good, but 'the best steering of any car with doors' is not hyperbole). The optimist in me just can't keep hoping that Honda makes another car like that. But the realist in me expects disappointment... and I have 2 kids, so a neo-CRX wouldn't help me much anyhow.
        Scooter
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Pinhead
        The car isn't supposed to recapture the experience of the CRX. Also the CRX Si was SLOWER than the current CR-Z.
          Pinhead
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Scooter
          yes, because drag racing is what the CRX was all about?
          Phontsolo
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Scooter
          The CRX was also a lot lighter. Because weight counts!!!
        A_Guy
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Pinhead
        Face it, you're not the target demo for the CR-X or the CR-Z anymore. Not only will it not work for you, it won't appeal to you. The CRX will always be on a pedestal in your memories, and that's fine.
      bK
      • 1 Year Ago
      Its about god damn time honda! But would we see it in murica?, or just another watered down si.....
      Scooter
      • 1 Year Ago
      Trading in my current CrZ for this if/when it releases.
      Patrick
      • 1 Year Ago
      Turbo'ed I4 and light weight. So sim-poe
      Indubitably
      • 1 Year Ago
      All Honda has to do is offer the CR-Z with a small naturally aspirated engine as the base model, the current hybrid as the mid range for the greenies and techy crowd, and a naturally aspirated si version with a k20/24 for the Hondafiles and it would sell like HOTCAKES. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out...
        Ducman69
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Indubitably
        I don't think you can really design a hybrid and naturally aspirated car on the same chassis, as I would imagine the whole design is much different with the whole electrical system and placement of batteries, etc. They could just give up on hybrid and offer a single turbo-diesel option. That would cover both fuel economy and even performance if they put enough boost behind it. Rate it for biodiesel and stick a green leaf sticker on the back. Less versions and higher production of one version is less cost for the consumer.
        A_Guy
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Indubitably
        No thanks. I want the hybrid drivetrain and performance. These days that's showing it can be a potent mix (have your cake and eat it too). If I want a 'low tech' fun Honda, I'll buy a used s2000. I like that Honda is on the forefront of this evolution, even if the original CR-Z wasn't what everyone was expecting (love mine tho).
      H Town
      • 1 Year Ago
      I'd like to see one just the turbo 1.5, without the added cost, weight, and complexity of the hybrid system.
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      Phontsolo
      • 1 Year Ago
      "Honda's research and development bigwigs have been unnerved by the reception of the Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ twins".. It took that to open their minds? Clueless!
      imag
      • 1 Year Ago
      If this is true, Honda still doesn't get it. Currently, hybrids are great for commuter and luxury vehicles. They are not good for purist sports cars, which need to be: - Simple - Light - Cheap - Fun to drive - Track capable A small petrol motor fits the above criteria better than a hybrid. Keep the hybrids for the sensible cars, not the toys.
        Txdesign
        • 1 Year Ago
        @imag
        I think you described the next Miata (or even the current one).
        Timon
        • 1 Year Ago
        @imag
        I had a chance to drive the crz and I liked it. It just needs a little more power: electrical or gasoline
          Scooter
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Timon
          People with sports cars love it. I even had a guy who owned an Impreza STi try it out, he said he might not give me back the keys. Only people that read articles about CR-Z go off at the mouth about things they know nothing about.
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