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You can't chalk this one up to Dutch windmills and an extra push they may have theoretically given an electric car. Instead it's just plain electric power. A team of students from the Netherlands was able to wring a whopping 388 miles out of a Tesla Model S on a single charge, but instead of any sort of special circumstances or super slow speeds, the team achieved this distance in "normal" traffic, Green Car Reports says. That's far more than The New York Times managed in a drive last winter that turned into a public war of words.

With a car provided by Athlon Car Lease, the students from Eindhoven University of Technology averaged 24 miles per hour in regular traffic. The achievement is impressive given that the Tesla is rated at up to 265 miles on a single charge and the drive brings a bit of good PR to California-based Tesla, as if it needed any. Tesla recently started European sales and has its European distribution center in the Netherlands.

The Dutch team did fall short of a Florida driver's effort last year to get 423 miles out of a Tesla on one charge late last year. Of course, that driver's average speed was just 18 miles per hour, implying that someone had a little extra time on their hands.


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      MTN RANGER
      • 1 Year Ago
      If you want the most miles on your BEV/PHEV, take the back roads. I get amazing miles in traffic and <=45MPH roads.
        Luc K
        • 1 Year Ago
        @MTN RANGER
        I definitely get lot more EV range on low speed but average of 18-24mph isn't really realistic other than traffic jams. That's not that much faster that bike.
        EZEE
        • 1 Year Ago
        @MTN RANGER
        And to beat the EPA, just drive with a bit of 'normalcy.' I drive 5 over the speed limit consistently, but don't stomp on the gas, coast up to lights, and use REASONABLE acceleration. I always beat the EPA in every vehicle I have had. My Fusion today had the computer pegged at 30.1mpg combined (I verify that with mileage when I fill up). 30.1 on a mid sized family car, combined. When I had my Escape Hybrid (because I care), then the trick was getting it to go in full electric further than it was supposed to. Again, easy. A bit more creative on the driving, but it took me 2 days to figure out the system, how to milk the regen brakes, and other features. As my drill sergeant used to scream at me, "It don't take no PhD."
        Spec
        • 1 Year Ago
        @MTN RANGER
        I can't drive 55.
        paulwesterberg
        • 1 Year Ago
        @MTN RANGER
        The Netherlands is ideal for electric vehicle travel: flat and temperate with low speed carriageways. My Nissan Leaf is only rated at 75 miles but I have driven it over 73 miles twice and returned home with around 24 miles remaining. The EPA rating is fair though because your range can be significantly reduced by large hills, high speeds and climate control.
          Koenigsegg
          • 1 Year Ago
          @paulwesterberg
          i drove 92 miles with my smart ED and had 5% battery remaining with 6 miles left all city driving lots of regen from the paddles and i did lots of hard accelerations so thats really good
          Rotation
          • 1 Year Ago
          @paulwesterberg
          I made it 70 miles with a16 miles remaining despite large hills (6% grades and more) this weekend.
          ElectricAvenue
          • 1 Year Ago
          @paulwesterberg
          I've averaged 12 km/kWh for a month. The Leaf has at least 20 kWh available, possibly even the full 24 kWh. You do the arithmetic. :-) I've also averaged 6 km/kWh in the winter at highway speed. This huge variation in energy usage per unit distance is the reason I personally think stating "the range" of an EV is pointless. There is no one range number possible. In the winter I would not assume that I could go more than 100 km (62.5 miles). In the summer I wouldn't worry about going 100 km.
      bluepongo1
      • 1 Year Ago
      Were I a student in the Netherlands, that wouldn't be the road trip I would undertake. ;-)
      ElectricAvenue
      • 1 Year Ago
      Suppose you instantaneously accelerate to 40 mph and instantaneously decelerate to 0. Ridiculous assumptions, but I'm trying to err on the side of calculating too high a figure. Now suppose that on average you stop for half a minute at a stop light every half mile. Traveling, say, 4 miles will take you 1/10 h or 6 minutes. But you stopped for 4 minutes. So your total travel time is 10 minutes for 4 miles. That's 24 mph. You spent most of your time traveling at 40 mph yet your average speed was 24 mph. Do the arithmetic, people. 24mph is actually quite a high average speed for city driving.
      EZEE
      • 1 Year Ago
      @purr Drill sergeants like to yell, so it isn't too special. The best one, however, was when I got back from sick call. We all eventually got this really odd cough - never heard anything like it. This guy, named (no lie here) Cummings, had it and we all got it. So I went to sick call and got back in the middle of the first lesson on 'present arms!' M16 in front, pull back firing mechanism, tilt forward, look down, verify no bullet in chamber, tilt back up. One of the important ways to protect America against communism I guess. I got there in the middle of the lesson. Here, as I fumbled about, is how it went: "Son, it don't take no PhD! Do you know why you can't do this?" "No sergeant!" "Son, it is because you are a d*ck brain!" "Yes sergeant!" "Now get down and do push-up! Do push-up until I get tired. And I just coffee,so it's going to be a looooooong time. Do push up until you faint!" (EZEE doing push-ups, with rifle laying on the back of my hands, as letting it drop would be a really bad thing.)
      Spec
      • 1 Year Ago
      Driving slow speed in a flat country for a pointless record.
        Giza Plateau
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Spec
        It was in normal traffic. Relevant for taxi driving for instance.
          EZEE
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Giza Plateau
          @electric... It's Bizarro World. Hello.
          ElectricAvenue
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Giza Plateau
          Wow, that's a first. I downrated Spec and uprated Dan. 24 mph is a perfectly normal city drive. Actually, it's faster than I usually average in the city. Anyone who understands average speeds when including stops, i.e. people who can do arithmetic, understand this. I can go about 120 miles in a Leaf at city speeds. The huge difference in efficiency between this and highway speed is nothing to be surprised about.
      purrpullberra
      • 1 Year Ago
      The Netherlands is small, with small streets and strange layouts. The slow speed is rather 'normal' for them. You're right for the US though.
      Rotation
      • 1 Year Ago
      The Netherlands is quite small. Small enough that driving 388 miles within the Netherlands is not normal. Not unless you are a flower delivery person working a double shift.
      Rotation
      • 1 Year Ago
      24mph is not a normal drive. For perspective, that would mean it took 16+ hours to go the distance listed. I'm sure they didn't creep along just to extend their range, but most people will not get to 388 miles in normal use. And bringing up the Broder thing is ridiculous. His top two problems were more that he didn't charge as much as he could despite the dearth of chargers on the road ahead and that he didn't plug in overnight in cold weather and lost tens of miles range with the car just sitting there. When he got out of the car it said it had enough range to go to his destination and when he got in in the morning it wasn't even close. That's not a leadfooting problem.
        jeff
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Rotation
        You have never been in Atlanta Rush hour traffic have you? 24mph average would be flying...
        Ele Truk
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Rotation
        What part of the word "average" don't you understand? 60 mph @ 30 min + 15 mph @ 60 min = 25mph AVERAGE. Do we need them to give us a spreadsheet of their speed just to satisfy people who don't understand basic math? (Probably not because they don't understand basic math).
          Rotation
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Ele Truk
          What part don't you understand? No matter which parts were at what speed, to go 388 miles at 24mph average requires you spend 16+ hours driving. It's just plain, old math. Do you think that driving for 16 hours at an average of 24mph (i.e. drove for 16+ hours and only went 388 miles) is normal for anyone but maybe people who make deliveries for the entire day (not just one shift)? If so, how do you think this? When is the last time you or anyone you know did this?
          jeff
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Ele Truk
          No one said it was one day. It was one charge...
        CoolWaters
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Rotation
        I get an average of 21 mph on my commute to work, that's 25-48 mph. I think 24 mph average could get you up to 60 at some points.
          Rotation
          • 1 Year Ago
          @CoolWaters
          Next question: is your commute 16 hours? No. You wouldn't put up with that. Okay then, like I said, absurd.
          jeff
          • 1 Year Ago
          @CoolWaters
          Rotation, who said it was done in one day?.... It was one charge...
        DaveMart
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Rotation
        In European cities, 12mph can be doing good. That knocks the average speed way down if you are not driving cross country. So depending on the route, this is not so absurd.
          Rotation
          • 1 Year Ago
          @DaveMart
          Driving for 16 hours at 24mph is absurd. Driving for 32 hours at 12mph would be doubly so.
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Rotation
        They took a combination of provincial roads (comparable to US highways), motorways (comparable to interstate) and city driving. By the way, on my daily commute in Holland I get an average speed of 60 km/h, approx 38 mph when traffic is moderate. In peak hour it drops to 45 kmh or 28 mph approx. See maps of the route followed by these students: https://www.google.nl/maps?saddr=Vaalserberg,+Vaals&daddr=50.8260721,5.9001453+to:50.9166702,5.8105277+to:50.981245,5.8435901+to:51.0839599,5.8746544+to:51.149601,5.938113+to:51.1982054,5.9810462+to:Randweg%2FN279+to:Rijksweg%2FN279+to:A2+to:Weg+der+Verenigde+Naties%2FN210+to:52.124017,4.9126811+to:Weg+Om+de+Noord%2FN201+to:52.417849,4.6429691+to:A22+to:52.4440251,4.7000601+to:Provincialeweg%2FN246+to:52.556929,4.785141+to:52.571705,4.927008+to:52.7003523,4.9415006+to:Langereis&hl=nl&sll=51.715969,5.331116&sspn=0.181866,0.528374&geocode=FaJ0BgMd4d5bAClvFkgTC5rARzHgHcyNW94AHQ%3BFViLBwMdcQdaACmN7L7RtZXARzGqwnOmWsyL2w%3BFT7tCAMdX6lYACnPu19G8cDARzEiShXYJD4Cpg%3BFX3pCQMdhipZACln_dnhb8fARzEpbv7O4BBYng%3BFbd6CwMd3qNZACnjUDhd18nARzEYHDL4wAOUXQ%3BFSF7DAMdwZtaACmLMsPjq7XARzHjg8m9_0p3Wg%3BFf04DQMddkNbACmfMhPANUvHRzECbepyWh2vKA%3BFRBqDwMdEr5ZAA%3BFUmDEwMdcFxUAA%3BFUOxFgMdWENQAA%3BFQmGGQMdHdNMAA%3BFXFZGwMdKfZKACmFiSr1JHfGRzHW159Rnpcdbg%3BFcVDHgMdN61HAA%3BFTnVHwMdmdhGACmfRTvClO_FRzE8Y65oP5yy4w%3BFZmFIAMd4ARHAA%3BFXk7IAMdnLdHACkV7nISzPrFRzFI7N2E-BVTNg%3BFVczIQMdhu5IAA%3BFYH0IQMd9QNJACn1cOfbLvnFRzHs1sojMrRiqg%3BFTkuIgMdIC5LACmz9HTjaADGRzFGhmkvGlXxXA%3BFcAkJAMdvGZLACn7oYlCuqzIRzGBw4aqCBXQyA%3BFS1KJAMd8M1KAA&oq=Den+oever&t=p&mra=mrv&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,11,13,15,17,18,19&dg=feature&ie=UTF8&ll=52.654311,5.190353&spn=0.338226,1.056747&source=embed https://www.google.nl/maps?saddr=Langereis&daddr=52.884796,4.9384001+to:A7+to:53.163265,5.9425082+to:52.9502708,6.1686978+to:52.788232,6.2183527+to:52.6407887,6.0263287+to:Flevoweg%2FN307+to:52.4254783,5.7398477+to:Gooise+Weg%2FN305+to:Athlon+Car+Lease+Nederland+BV,+Veluwezoom+4,+Almere&hl=nl&sll=52.659309,6.15097&sspn=0.356095,1.056747&geocode=FS1KJAMd8M1KAA%3BFTz1JgMdoFpLACmdelkfPEvPRzF0qrlL23rpJA%3BFbCiKQMdIAFUAA%3BFQE1KwMd7KxaACnVmXIc0VXIRzH8-GsVk3CI1Q%3BFf70JwMdeSBeACldhy604EPIRzG7Sbvn5bWY-Q%3BFQh8JQMdcOJeACnpQqTNm2zIRzGNAWir6oH8zg%3BFRQ8IwMdWPRbACnvVgq9yXDIRzH4PzqKMYGYIA%3BFSXnIQMdErNZAA%3BFQbzHwMdR5VXACnNrSNk0tLHRzEKtOHkAx8rgA%3BFYGlHgMdq8FTAA%3BFWnlHgMd5SFQACEKz-OfHm8rOSnJ4iGmXBbGRzEKz-OfHm8rOQ&oq=athlon&t=p&mra=dpe&mrsp=6&sz=11&via=1,3,4,5,6,8&dg=feature&ie=UTF8&ll=52.69969,5.861206&spn=1.351522,4.22699&source=embed
      Rotation
      • 1 Year Ago
      24mph average speed isn't bad for city driving. What's odd is 388 miles of city driving! Which city are you doing that in? Do the arithmetic, people! If going 388 miles at 24,mph average (i.e. taking 16 hours to do it and not stopping for any significant amount of time during it) is so normal, when is the last time you did it?
      ElectricAvenue
      • 1 Year Ago
      I don't think "reasonable acceleration" is relevant. It's lower speed, and coasting up to lights, i.e. avoiding using brakes, that makes the difference.
      purrpullberra
      • 1 Year Ago
      EZEE: LOL. ��
      • 1 Year Ago
      It is just a matter of time, screw the oil companies. My wife's 2012 VOLT averages 165 MPG and goes 40 miles on the initial charge. It is 13 months old and has had just 2 tanks of gas put in it. We bought it 6 months ago and the cars computer make s you use two tanks a year to keep the gas from going stale! But Americans are too 'smart' to buy them because of the Tea Party crazies.
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