We recently heard that Toyota could be looking to shrink its network of Scion dealerships, and now Automotive News is reporting that the automaker has officially given its dealers the green light to dump Scion without any penalties. Currently, Scion has about 1,000 dealers, yet our report from August 8 quotes an industry analyst as suggesting a healthier figure would be between 350 and 500 outlets. But before its current dealers make a decision on whether or not to get rid of the youth-oriented brand, Toyota also showed off a couple potential future products in the pipeline.

The FT-86 Open Concept shown above was revealed back in March at the Geneva Motor Show, and AN says that an FR-S convertible was driven on stage at a recent national Toyota dealer meeting in Atlanta. There has still been no definitive word one way or another as to whether the droptop model will be built, but it could be a good way to follow up to the popular FR-S coupe. Another possible future product is a subcompact crossover, which was shown in drawing form at the meeting, presumably aimed at small CUVs like the Nissan Juke and the upcoming Honda CUV based on the Fit, a model recently previewed by the automaker's Urban SUV concept.


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      express2day
      • 1 Year Ago
      Green light to drop Scion without *penalties*? Didn't Toyota dealers have to pay to carry the Scion franchise? If so, do they lose that money or will Toyota "buy back" the franchises? Since most Scions are sold through existing Toyota dealerships anyway, I don't see why dropping dealers is so meaningful.
      Bobby
      • 1 Year Ago
      I expect that Toyota won't want to shame themselves by selling the FR-S as a Toyota, that's too confusing for consumers too. I expect that after the FR-S reaches it's end, scion will go, and the next generation will be Toyota everywhere.
      Phontsolo
      • 1 Year Ago
      Maybe this is the start of Toyota getting rid of Scion and making them into, you know.... Toyota's. Like they should have always been from the start.
      Carpinions
      • 1 Year Ago
      I, like many here, feel that taking a design convertible does a fair amount to ruin the original form. It messes with rigidity, and many tops look like car toupees. This is not one of those cases. Maybe it's the lighting in these images or the color, but I daresay that the convertible transition has made the back half of the FR-S damn near elegant. And with those wheels, which are quite a bit better than those on the coupe, this car now looks a lot more expensive than it is. This car I think upstages the MX-5 now. We'll see what the foldable top does to this car's dynamics, but holy cow. I thought the coupe was OK in terms of styling but nothing striking. This for some reason is striking. This is the FR-S I would want to own.
        Teleny411
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Carpinions
        Agreed. I think if anything, the Vert has improved the styling.
      jclaxton78
      • 1 Year Ago
      How about Toyota giving permission to negotiate prices on Scions? When you can get a Fit, Fiesta, Sonic, Rio, Accent, Versa, even Yaris down into the 13K-15k range, the $17,000 XD doesn't look so hot when you can't get it for a dime less than MSRP.
        Max Bramante
        • 1 Year Ago
        @jclaxton78
        That's right, i've never understood why the xD must be so expensive and that's a shame cuz i've always loved it much more than the ugly xB 2nd generation...even in Europe the xD price is among 23-25,000 euro, the car is slightly different from the Scion one, since it has a 1.4 turbodiesel engine and a very sofisticate AWD traction...great handling and brakes, very fuel efficient of course but even so, it cost too much.
      Joe Bo
      • 1 Year Ago
      That's a nice looking convertible. Maybe I'll like the 2015 (small) mustang after all. Especially if they reduce the overhangs to something similar to this car. Of course the mustang will have more than 150 ft lbs of torque. If Toyota made a supercharged version of this drop top with about 250 ft pounds of torque (with a nice flat torque curve) I'd be interested. Oh, and it has to be cheaper than a mustang gt. .... Not gonna happen.
      bK
      • 1 Year Ago
      When scion first started, they were just bringing over unique jdm toyota compacts and making it into a cool youth oriented trims. But since jdm toyota hasnt built anything to succeed the current scion lineup and they cant bring the popular kei cars over to be rebadged, they got no choice. I would take a GT86 over a frs.
      Radioactive Flea
      • 1 Year Ago
      That’s awesome. Can’t get a turbo, but we will make it a fat pig for all the posers out there.
        J W
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Radioactive Flea
        Calm down. If there was no public request, they wouldn't have wasted time and money producing it. Now hopefully those who wanted it show up to the dealer ready to sign on the dotted line.
        Racerman967
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Radioactive Flea
        This way it can become a girl and retired person car. All looks and no performance.
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Radioactive Flea
        [blocked]
      Shahul
      • 1 Year Ago
      And the great experiment shall soon be over.... in 2 years it too will be called the Toyota GT86
        Dean
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Shahul
        I hope you're right about the Scion being renamed a Toyota product. I'd love to see us get some of the more up-market options that aren't offered on Scions. I will probably not buy one, but I'd still like to see it happen. This convertible looks good though.
          Dean
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Dean
          I read the article, but my comment was a reply to @Shahul. I'm also hoping that allowing dealers to drop the Scion franchise, and with that happening, I hope Toyota decides to drop the Scion brand all together.
          J W
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Dean
          I don't know how you see the article as "dropping the Scion name for Toyota," they are just allowing the dealers to option cut and stop selling the Scion brand.
        Phontsolo
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Shahul
        Let's hope so.
      joe shmoe
      • 1 Year Ago
      based on FRS sales, it alone cannot prop up the scion brand. They should have made the FRS a toyota model.
      lazybeans
      • 1 Year Ago
      Scion, give us a FR-S based RWD 4 door sedan and a 3 Door hatch. The rest of the Scion line is pathetic.
      over9000
      • 1 Year Ago
      I'd like a shooting brake version
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