Teaser images of a purported Subaru BRZ STI were uncovered last night and sent the internet into a collective state of hysterics. That's not hugely surprising, though, considering the reverence that the BRZ, along with its fraternal twins, the Scion FR-S and Toyota GT86, have garnered from the automotive media. The sole sticking point, really, has been its mere 200 horsepower. People have been chomping at the bit over a higher output version of the sublime rear driver.

Those same people may be in for a disappointment, though. See, the BRZ STI that was teased last night might not be a real STI. Instead, it's looking like it might be a BRZ tS. According to 7Tune.com, the timing of the photos posted on Subaru's website lined up with Subaru's 86 Festival at Fuji Speedway, where the Subaru BRZ tS debuted. Despite wearing STI badges, the tS isn't the full-tilt STI model we've been hoping for. Instead, you can think of the relationship between tS models and STI models as sort of like the difference between a BMW 3 Series M Sport and a BMW M3.

Certainly, the speccing of the tS supports that idea. The engine of the BRZ remains untouched in both tS models, which is one of the primary things we expect a full-bore STI to address. A number of interior and exterior styling items have been added, along with Bilstein suspension pieces and six-pot Brembo brakes. The tS sports two different trim levels, with the higher end using Recaro seats, black alloy wheels, and a carbon-fiber rear spoiler. The base tS features silver wheels, standard seats, and all the same suspension and brake upgrades. Adding fuel to the fire that these are not the true STI models is the limited production run - Subaru will only build 750 tS cars.

Still, there's hope that we'll eventually see a BRZ STI, with rumors to support that argument. The 2013-2014 auto show season will ultimately tell the tale.


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      ravingricefarmer
      • 1 Year Ago
      blueballs :(
      RetrogradE
      • 1 Year Ago
      This appears to be the answer to (most of) Lexus's "F" packages or Audi's "S-line" packages.
      gary
      • 1 Year Ago
      The slide that says "PURITY OF HANDLING" ought to have been the tip-off that this may very well be a chassis-only package.
      graphikzking
      • 1 Year Ago
      STI model would make it very expensive. Let's get us a "WRX" model 1st :) Who wouldn't be at least a LITTLE more happy with a 240-250hp BRZ Turbo? Then do a STI package a few years later with the next generation (if they do another generation even). They should have dropped this model to about $23,990 and then have the turbo model start at like $27,450. This way they would sell a LOT more to the "posers" and then they would also excite and sell to their "performance oriented" crowd as well.
        EcoBooster
        • 1 Year Ago
        @graphikzking
        For that price, you could buy a 420hp Mustang GT! (Yes I know handling isn't as strong, but it's pretty damn good for a Live Rear Axle!) If you are going to drop near $30k large, you better make sure you are getting the best bang for the buck. That 2.0L Boxer engine might be a nice engine...but my goodness talk about underwhelming!
          Ben
          • 1 Year Ago
          @EcoBooster
          They need a boxer 6 turbo! That would be just amazing. Do the boxer 4 turbo for the WRX and the BRZ turbo then for the WRX STI do the turbo Boxer 6 like the old SVX. IT would be just amazing. People are already doing it and subaru already has the motors and the turbos. Just upgrade the internals throw on the turbo and you could have 400-500 hp and a full on competitor with maybe even GTRs (if they did DCCD enhancements etc.)
        Feurig
        • 1 Year Ago
        @graphikzking
        Maybe this talk about how if you buy a regular BRZ, you're a "poser" is what's keeping Subaru from doing this in the first place.
      budwsr25
      • 1 Year Ago
      They are going to turn a 30k that should only cost 25k car into a 40k car. They are going to price it right out of the market it was intended for. But then the was not intended to be an entry level car anyway.
        Chris Bangle
        • 1 Year Ago
        @budwsr25
        Fully loaded with everything on it, a BRZ limited with an automatic is only $29k. It's $26,250 with a manual and that's with HIDs, LEDs, and Navigation.
          S.
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Chris Bangle
          Maybe i'm just poor, but when did $29,000 become "only $29k"? That's quite a bit of compromise for the amount you're paying.
          jonnybimmer
          • 1 Year Ago
          @Chris Bangle
          @ S. Not to disagree with you about $29k being a lot of money, but take into consideration that nowadays Honda Civic Si's are $25k+, Miatas $30k, and Mini Coopers.. well, they're owned by BMW, 'nuff said. It's not so much that the BRZ is expensive, it's that cars in general have become pretty expensive over time due to a combination of inflation and more standard features/better quality. So yes, $29k is still twenty nine thousand dollars, a solid sum of money, but relative to the pricing of everything else that's offered, it's not as expensive as it seems. Better yet, think of it this way: It's more expensive than a higher trim level Corolla, but cheaper than a higher trim level Camry. That was about the same pricing as the original AE86 Corollas.
        jtav2002
        • 1 Year Ago
        @budwsr25
        Meh, just buy the FRS, there's your 25k version.
      ShutoSteve
      • 1 Year Ago
      Using Adam Zillin from 7Tune as a source is akin to using Super Replicas as the builder of the Ferrari 458 you just saw rolling down the road. Adam got his info from here: http://autoc-one.jp/subaru/brz/launch-1445196/ He was also at this event, where he was quickly denied being able to drive the BRZ STi for the last thrashing he did of a Subaru press vehicle, as well as a Prototype GT86 he left unattended to in a P24 lot in downtown Tokyo, which quickly got towed away when it went over the limit. He has an incredibly bad image among the Japanese motoring press, and even many American motoring press. Autoblog should reconsider where they get their source material from, and should perhaps try backtracking even more. Again, this is the original source for 7Tune's article: http://autoc-one.jp/subaru/brz/launch-1445196/
      Paul M
      • 1 Year Ago
      I almost bought a BRZ... almost. And ironically, aside from the poor visibility (really bad blind spots), the one thing my wife and I both agreed on was that the BRZ was underpowered. I mean, on the highway, you put your foot down and there is just nothing. The irony was that even a base Miata I drove later seemed more powerful, and the Cooper S I eventually purchased seemed like it was in another league of instant power, reaction and fun. Of course, that's not necessarily true, and the Cooper is a front-driver, but it was just a whole lot more entertaining. The BRZ desperately needs a turbo, but without a huge bump in price (see: Veloster, for example).
        johnbravo6
        • 1 Year Ago
        @Paul M
        Cooper S is what I bought, as well. Rather than fault the Mini for being FWD, I laugh that Toyota and Subaru together couldn't put together a lighter, faster car, nor does it handle or brake as well. But they still kept the price-point level with the Cooper? Good going. Maybe pick one up as a project in a few years when they're worth $5'000. Even the Fiat couldn't hang... What a sad state of affairs that a Cooper is the 'sportscar' benchmark these days.
      MONTEGOD7SS
      • 1 Year Ago
      I remember when the GT-R came out 480hp was "perfect" and adding any more would ruin the car. Here we are with the 2014 GT-R making 545hp, because low and behold power does actually matter. The FR-S/BRZ isn't a Miata chassis, and needs, or should I say could handle, much more than 200hp.
        pavsterrocks
        • 1 Year Ago
        @MONTEGOD7SS
        As someone who had a Miata (gen 1) with over 250hp, there is nothing wrong with Miata chassis. It's one of the best in the business. Just sayin'
          montegod7ss
          • 1 Year Ago
          @pavsterrocks
          No doubt about it, and they can handle a lot more than that well. With that said, your average driver will do better with a 400hp RX-7 than a 400hp Miata. The same rings true with the FR-S/BRZ most likely being a little better sorted for big power than a Miata. I'm the kind of guy that wants a Miata with a LS3, 80mm turbo, and a Glide.
      WindsWilling
      • 1 Year Ago
      Well this should bump the car up a couple grand, pushing it well beyond the 30k price point. What a joke. Such little car for the money. It's a shame because this car had potential and they just blew it. In fact I think Subaru and Toyota were crapping themselves with the price point being significantly higher than first targeted, and the performance being significantly lower to boot, that this thing wouldn't sell at all. But they sold a good bit of them, and you couldn't find them on dealer's lots, but now there's an abundance of them once people saw how underwhelming they really are.
      antacid
      • 1 Year Ago
      An STI with the exact same engine. This is the kind of utter BS you get when you work with Toyota. Good job Subaru, you have no shame.
        jonnybimmer
        • 1 Year Ago
        @antacid
        Not an STI model, just STI badged. Think of it like how premium brands whor... I mean, share out their sporty sub-brands; Audi's S Line, BMW's M packages, MB's AMG packages, Lexus's F Line, etc. They all carry the badge's (and pricetag) customers want to show off but without the performance to back them up.
      Bryan Pizzuti
      • 1 Year Ago
      Jeez, you just HAD to throw fuel on the NASIOC didn't you? :)
      imag
      • 1 Year Ago
      What are you talking about AB? The TS does not carry the STI badges shown in the teaser. They are two different trims. 7Tune's photos themselves show this, though he draws the completely wrong conclusion. Why would Subaru release photos highlighting the STI badge for a TS model that doesn't carry those badges?
        hashiriyasr20
        • 1 Year Ago
        @imag
        http://cdn.speedhunters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/86-Style-2013-04.jpg BRZ tS with STI and tS badges
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