Juneau wants to become EV capital

Again, 2WM ignores reality. He seems to be completely unaware of the cold weather testing that has been conducted globally over the past decade.

Some of us are already aware of the truth... FCVs are perfectly fine in extreme cold weather.

Right, since FCVs are everywhere, and those Honda FCX test drivers in Southern California see a lot of sub-zero temps.. Proven in the real world.... right!

The first link in the google search results says: "Fuel cell systems are not yet as durable as internal combustion engines and do not perform as well in extreme environments, such as in sub-freezing temperatures." "Cold-weather operation can also be problematic since fuel cell systems always contain water, which can freeze at low temperatures, and must reach a certain temperature to attain full performance. FCVs can now start and operate in sub-freezing temperatures, but there are still some performance concerns. Finally, contaminants can degrade fuel cell performance and durability, so it is unclear what level of purity of hydrogen and intake air will be required for FCVs to operate reliably in real-world conditions." source: fueleconomy.gov The first page of results has a lot of reports that don't conclude anything, just say that they're testing FCVs and not much more..

FCVs have proven themselves quite capable in frigid climates. No lack of performance... http://bit.ly/12IpK35

It's funny that you post a link from a page that hasn't been updated in years, and ignore the articles that show that FCVs haven't had freezing problems for the past several generations. "The Mercedes B-Class with fuel-cell drive has passed it’s cold weather (winter) testing in Sweden. Temperatures apparently reached double digit, below zero figures. Some of the specific aspects of the testing included cold start testing as well as road-holding. The Zero emission B-Class is scheduled to be produced from the beginning of 2010 and will officially be called the B-Class F-CELL. The power-train is based on the fuel-cell system that Mercedes introduced on their F 600 HYGENIUS research concept in 2005. " http://www.worldcarfans.com/10803181796/mercedes-b-class-fuel-cell-withstands-cold-weather "TORRANCE, Calif, U.S.A., February 27, 2004 – Marking a significant breakthrough for fuel cell technology, Honda Motor Co., Ltd, today announced that it has conducted a successful cold-weather demonstration of its FCX fuel cell vehicle equipped with a Honda Fuel Cell Stack. Demonstrating the vehicle's cold-weather performance capabilities and its ability to start in below freezing temperatures, a major hurdle in the drive to create a truly mass-marketable fuel cell vehicle. "This is a tremendous breakthrough for Honda and everyone whose dream it is to make fuel cell power a reality," said Ben Knight, vice president of Honda R&D Americas. "We still have many hurdles to cross, but this is certainly a significant step in the right direction." Testing was conducted at Honda's test track and on public roads on the northern Japan island of Hokkaido. As a part of the test, the FCX successfully started after being parked outside overnight in temperatures as low as -11oC (+12oF). Test drives conducted immediately afterward demonstrated the vehicle's excellent cold weather driving performance. Honda will continue cold weather testing in its efforts to make widespread use of fuel cell vehicles a reality. " http://world.honda.com/news/2004/4040227FCX/ "The Gen2 vehicles were designed to start and operate under sub-freezing conditions. Gen2 cold weather testing at -20 degree Celsius was done at GM’s Cold Weather Development Centre in Kapuskasing, Ontario Canada as shown in Figure 8. The Gen2 vehicles met the freeze start and drive away DOE metrics. GM places considerable emphasis on the capability of the FCEV to operate under the same set of environmental temperature conditions as vehicles with internal combustion engines. Besides the testing site at Kapuskasing, the Ardsley, New York location, just north of New York City, provided ample opportunity to test the freeze capability of the Gen2 vehicles while in the hands of customers. As noted in Figure 9, the vehicles in the eastern region performed over 3100 starts when the ambient temperature was less than 0 C without any issues." http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/1034418/1034418.pdf

Are you now willing to concede that FCVs have demonstrated cold weather performance - specifically the ability to operate normally in below-freezing temps?

Only 11 miles? wow, ok. Yeah, battery doesn't matter so much then :)

Hey.. natural gas fracking allows you to pass the health effects onto our children, or maybe grandchildren. Are we ready to stop driving v8 SUVs to work alone yet... no? :(

@ Actionable Mango Maybe he's sharing DF/Gina's upstairs room at his mom's ?

Yes, but now some other city is stuck with him.